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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by nofoboater on Wed May 14, 2014 5:59 am

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Frank_Wx wrote:Being a Yankee fan is rough right now

It's a long season,Frank, barely started.The Yanks are a powerhouse club.They have scored 14 runs in the two games against the Mets.You guys have the same problem with middle relief we have although with CC out, the starting pitching is weak.Was not impressed with Nuno.

Maybe you guys need a trade for middle relief or a starter to shore up the pitching.Some tough NL teams out there, as you saw with Milwaukee.Wow, that would be a matchup for the World Series, Milwaukee vs the Yanks.That happened in 1957 and 1958, the Braves won in '57 and the Yanks in '58.Classic baseball history in those towns.

Yanks always make it up with power, the pitching will be back, it's early.

What was up with Wheeler last night? He looked completely lost.

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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by Snow88 on Wed May 14, 2014 7:30 am

Looks like Granderson is back
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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by Dunnzoo on Wed May 14, 2014 7:59 am

Not a great night for Wheeler, don't know what's up with the starters, they are getting to 115 pitches in just 5 innings.....they will wear out the bullpen in no time.......

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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by docstox12 on Wed May 14, 2014 8:27 am

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Frank_Wx wrote:Being a Yankee fan is rough right now

It's a long season,Frank, barely started.The Yanks are a powerhouse club.They have scored 14 runs in the two games against the Mets.You guys have the same problem with middle relief we have although with CC out, the starting pitching is weak.Was not impressed with Nuno.

Maybe you guys need a trade for middle relief or a starter to shore up the pitching.Some tough NL teams out there, as you saw with Milwaukee.Wow, that would be a matchup for the World Series, Milwaukee vs the Yanks.That happened in 1957 and 1958, the Braves won in '57 and the Yanks in '58.Classic baseball history in those towns.

Yanks always make it up with power, the pitching will be back, it's early.

What was up with Wheeler last night? He looked completely lost.

He's been erratic his last few starts.Hope the pitching coaches don't make another Pelfry out of him.We saw how that worked out, a guy with "oh such promise" completely busting out.
Colon is showing his age now.Getting tatooed regularly.Gonna need this kid Montero, Syndegaard or even Mejia to replace Colon before he loses 15 games.
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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by docstox12 on Wed May 14, 2014 8:29 am

Dunnzoo wrote:Not a great night for Wheeler, don't know what's up with the starters, they are getting to 115 pitches in just 5 innings.....they will wear out the bullpen in no time.......

LOL. and the bullpen is already shaky.Have to give them credit against the Yanks, though.They have come through when the starters have been very poor.
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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by nofoboater on Wed May 14, 2014 1:51 pm

Looking forward to seeing Montero. Talk about throwing him to the wolves, jeez. Well pitching against the Yankees separates the men from the boys.




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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by Frank_Wx on Wed May 14, 2014 5:50 pm

I picked up Montero on my fantasy league. Not going to start him though. I want to scout him a bit tonight first. Hopefully with Tanaka going he can give us a quality start.

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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by Dunnzoo on Wed May 14, 2014 9:45 pm

Crap, Gee on the DL......what next?

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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by nofoboater on Thu May 15, 2014 6:23 am

I thought Montero pitched very well all things considered. Not surprised that the Mets couldn't hit Tanaka.

Yeah, Gee hurt, so many injuries to pitchers league wide this season.

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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by docstox12 on Thu May 15, 2014 12:52 pm

Montero.....meh. Tanaka....magnificent.Watching last night stunk as a Mets Fan, but I'm glad to have seen Tanaka.He's the real McCoy, you bet! If the Yanks can get healthy around him, they are playoff bound.Gary Cohen mentioned Tanaka has 34 staright wins.Mind bogglingly amazing! Great pick up by Cashman. That took guts laying out 150 mil over 7 years for a gamble.That took guts.Wish our GM had b_ls like Cashman.

Got to be a letdown for Mets hitters last night back in the rightfield jungle of Citi Field that eats up homers.Kieth Hernandez was spot on when saying you've got to become a line drive hitter there and forget about the Jacks.
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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by docstox12 on Thu May 15, 2014 12:55 pm

Dunnzoo wrote:Crap, Gee on the DL......what next?

They have this rookie kid pitching tonight in Gee's place.Yanks have a rookie pitcher as well.This could be fun tonight.Luckily we are a little deeper in starting than the Yanks.Only dependable starter they have is Tanaka.
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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by docstox12 on Fri May 16, 2014 6:51 am

Absolutely disgusting, horrible hitting by the Mets last night.As I said in an earlier post in this thread, we were lucky to split with the Yankees in this series.We are something like 3 and 11 with 4 shutouts against us in this last run.The Captain, david Wright, struck out three times and grounded weakly with men on first and third.Years ago, in the 60's way before this "oh so respectful of people's sensitivities" era, the Daily News would add a Hero and Goat picture on important games.Well, that Yankee middle reliever who struck out 6 straight Mets would be the hero and Wright the Goat for blowing a DP and his crap hitting.This rookie kid de Graw comes up from the minors and pitches a one run gem against a killer lineup and these clowns on the Mets strike out 14 times.

Something very wrong with this team, lack of consistent clutch hitting.Basement here we come with the management we have.
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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by nofoboater on Fri May 16, 2014 7:00 am

Boy the Wilpons really wanted a pitcher's park in Citi Field, they got what they wished for.

DeGrom pitched 7 terrific innings.

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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by docstox12 on Fri May 16, 2014 7:05 am

Nofo,I liked de Grom better than Montero, but they both held the Yanks to only 4 runs.They did their jobs and a better hitting club would have won last night's game.Tanaka is different, I don't think any team can beat him right now.
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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by docstox12 on Fri May 16, 2014 7:37 am

Also wanted to mention that a nice reception was given to Yankee future Hall of Famer and classy gentleman Derek Jeter.Sad to see him go as he is a baseball institution, but he murdered us through the years.Chipper Jones was the same.At least these guys won't chop us to pieces anymore,LOL!

Amazing Derek Jeter spent his whole career as a Yankee.Don't see that much at all these days with all the trading going on.The man will be a success at anything he does because he has a work ethic from the old days.If his team gets healthy, maybe Derek will have a shot at a playoff- World seris bid.

In a roundabout way, Derek Jeter helped me out as he was the spokesman for Ford Motors for a while and I believe he helped drive the price of Ford stock up which I traded for a profit.Thanks, Derek, from old Docstox, and the best of luck to you in your post baseball career(s).
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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by docstox12 on Sat May 17, 2014 9:54 am

27 innings. 2 runs.

Were going down faster than an olive in a Martini!
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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by Dunnzoo on Sat May 17, 2014 1:01 pm

docstox12 wrote:27 innings. 2 runs.

Were going down faster than an olive in a Martini!
Ahhh, but Atlanta has been losing too...still only 3 games out...AND we are not in the cellar!
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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by docstox12 on Sun May 18, 2014 6:53 am

Now THAT'S what I'm hoping to see! Colon pitching like a gem, incredible defensive play and hitting by Lagares,clutch hitting by the new kid Campbell, and a great move by Collins bringing in Mejia to close.Like Mejia so far, he could be great as a closer.As Dunz said, Atlanta has been choking as well, we are'nt that far back.
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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by Analog96 on Tue May 20, 2014 11:16 am

If I was going to build a stadium for my ballclub, I would make it hitter friendly by default.
Crowds like to see hitting better, and even if you occasionally put a bad team out there, it's more fun to watch the team lose 9-7 than 3-1.

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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by nofoboater on Tue May 20, 2014 5:01 pm

Analog96 wrote:If I was going to build a stadium for my ballclub, I would make it hitter friendly by default.
Crowds like to see hitting better, and even if you occasionally put a bad team out there, it's more fun to watch the team lose 9-7 than 3-1.

Not much of a debate from my perspective. I heard the Wilpons designed the park around Reyes so he could get in the park home runs. How did that work out?

Drew back to the Sox for $10mil. We'll have to settle with Tejada batting .180 and making countless errors.




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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by Dunnzoo on Wed May 21, 2014 7:48 am

Well, they are in the basement now, and it's not going to get better with no pitching....

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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by nofoboater on Wed May 21, 2014 11:47 am

Wouldn't worry about the starting pitching. Montero and DeGrom are young yet. Once Gee gets back, that should fill the void in. They need to find some power, like we've been preaching since November.

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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by docstox12 on Wed May 21, 2014 1:39 pm

nofoboater wrote:
Analog96 wrote:If I was going to build a stadium for my ballclub, I would make it hitter friendly by default.
Crowds like to see hitting better, and even if you occasionally put a bad team out there, it's more fun to watch the team lose 9-7 than 3-1.

Not much of a debate from my perspective. I heard the Wilpons designed the park around Reyes so he could get in the park home runs. How did that work out?

Drew back to the Sox for $10mil. We'll have to settle with Tejada batting .180 and making countless errors.




Right, Nofo, that worked out just peachy keen designing Citi with those dimensions.

They are betting on Tejada like they did on Pelfry and Ike Davis.
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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by docstox12 on Wed May 21, 2014 1:40 pm

nofoboater wrote:Wouldn't worry about the starting pitching. Montero and DeGrom are young yet. Once Gee gets back, that should fill the void in. They need to find some power, like we've been preaching since November.

All the great starting pitching won't matter without bats to back them up. Earth to Alderson........
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Re: 2014 Mets

Post by docstox12 on Wed May 21, 2014 2:09 pm

Dunnzoo wrote:Well, they are in the basement now, and it's not going to get better with no pitching....

I've been watching baseball 54 years and I can say that there is something fundamentally wrong with this team.The manager, coaches, GM and owners are just not clicking together properly to produce a winning team.We are now in the basement as I predicted last week.They can't hit.Last night, two innings with bases loaded and one out and no runs scored.Inexcusable and the hitting coach HAS GOT TO GO!!!!! Terrible fundamental errors being made on the basepaths and Danny Murphy is afraid of going ass over teakettle and throwing badly eliminating possible double play balls.

I'm a diehard fan and will stick it out, but this franchise will sink into the ground as fair weather fans desert the ship in droves.Alderson, the manager and the coaches better come up with something fast to right the ship.
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