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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:23 pm

Dtone wrote:They got it right this time, and is in line with 3.2" at LGA, 3.5" at JFK and 3.2" at Newark. Also 3.1" for myself.
CPK is at 24.4" for the season, probably should be in the low 30s," like LGA (32.3"). Ive measured similar # for myself as well.

A deviation that big is utterly ridiculous. This year is one of their worst but it happens year, after year, after year.
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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by JoeBx82 on Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:21 am

CPK measured the lowest in its surrounding area once again at 3.0 inches. At least it's not as bad as the other storms.

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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:32 pm

JoeBx82 wrote:CPK measured the lowest in its surrounding area once again at 3.0 inches. At least it's not as bad as the other storms.

Joe, the final tally was 4.0 inches as of the 7 am update. That seems right in line with surrounding areas.

It's also unheard of that they recognized an additional inch after midnight when freezing rain changed back to moderate snow for a couple of hours in Manhattan after 4 am.

We've won the last two battles but the war rages on.

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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by docstox12 on Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:38 pm

"We're going to go through that Zookeeper like crap through a Goose!"

By God, I feel sorry for that SOB, I really do.

We on this site are going to bombard NOAA with e mails every storm if necessary to correct this matter once and for all.
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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:06 pm

docstox12 wrote:"We're going to go through that Zookeeper like crap through a Goose!"

By God, I feel sorry for that SOB, I really do.

We on this site are going to bombard NOAA with e mails every storm if necessary to correct this matter once and for all.

"We're going inside of ‘em, we're going outside of ‘em -- inside of ‘em! outside of ‘em! -- and when we get them on the run once, we're going to keep ‘em on the run."

That zookeeper has no idea who he's messing with.

I'm CP and I approved this message.
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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by docstox12 on Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:42 am

LOL!

At least NOAA knows there are weather enthusiasts out there who are watching.I'll bet that 28 inches they have posted might have been even lower if people here did not send all those e mails.

Aniother snow season is winding down but we will be back next snow season to watch and report!!!
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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:14 am

So LGA has recorded 36.5 inches of snow so far this season and has a current snow depth of 6 inches

Central Park has recorded by the infamous zookeeper, 28.4 inches of snow and has a current snow depth of 12 inches.

Does anyone at NOAA or the State Climate Office see anything wrong there?

Common sense does not rule, robotic recording of incorrect measurements is the rule of the day.

At least they got the last two correct, but even though they promised, no other under counts this year have been corrected.
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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by Abba701 on Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:12 pm

Was there any measurements today in central park?

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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:30 pm

4.5 inches as of 7:00 pm. It did snow a bit after that so I'd like to see them come in tomorrow morning with a final of 5 or so.
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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by Abba701 on Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:40 pm

If that's true then they are above 30.Where did you see today's total online ? There 4pm summary says it's missing.And the "Latest Snow Reports" dosent have it either

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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by Abba701 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:37 am

The 1am climte summary says 4.8.Not bad.Makes sense I guess

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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by Math23x7 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:41 am

So with all of the let downs and possible under-counts, CPK is at 33.2" on the season and tied with 1935-36 as the 48th snowiest season on record.

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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by Abba701 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:43 am

It's not bad.A couple of months ago I was really worried they wouldn't make it to 10
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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by Math23x7 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:13 am

Of the 33.2" of snow CPK has this season, 30" of it came since January 24th.

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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by algae888 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:18 am

Math23x7 wrote:Of the 33.2" of snow CPK has this season, 30" of it came since January 24th.
mike this is simply incredible. and cpk really has closer to 40" as our friend in the park did his usual on a few storms. when reading through the winter outlooks by various mets and amatuers most thought we would have a back loaded winter due to el-nino even though this is not like a usual el-nino winter. so many winter forecast ended up pretty accurate.  let's see if cpk can make it to 40" this year. we have a good shot at it. Very Happy
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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:28 am

The biggest story here is the 4.8 inch total recorded at the zoo. That's 3 in a row now they've gotten it right. I'm sure the email campaign made a difference the problem of course is two fold in that they still haven't updated the incorrect measurements from this year and as you said Al if they did the park would be about 40 inches.

Of course the other problem is without due diligence they will begin making the same mistakes again if someone at NOAA doesn't stay on top of the zoo. For that to happen someone has to stay on top of NOAA and that's why we're all here.
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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by docstox12 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:54 am

Exactly, CP.We may have won a few battles, but, as you said, the war goes on.

We will keep up the pressure as long as we are here.
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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by Math23x7 on Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:07 pm

CPK measured 1.8" today. I actually agree with that amount. It puts it at 35.0" for the season tied with 2000-01 for the 42nd snowiest season on record.

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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:20 pm

Math23x7 wrote:CPK measured 1.8" today.  I actually agree with that amount.  It puts it at 35.0" for the season tied with 2000-01 for the 42nd snowiest season on record.

Good to hear Math, that's 4 in a row they've gotten correct.

We should all pat ourselves on the back. I only wish they would correct the 3 they blew in January and the beginning of February. They would be at about 42 inches now if they did.

I'm sending one more e-mail tomorrow to remind them. They love hearing from me.
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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:13 pm

CPK 7.0 inches as of 4PM.

It been snowing moderately from 4:00 until now so let's see if they pick up on the last 0.5 to 1.5 that will fall before this ends. If they do this will be five in a row.

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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:31 pm

And the 8:00 pm update still has Central Park sitting at their 4:00 pm reading of 7.0 inches. LaGuardia is up to 8.4 as of 8 pm. So what happened to the snow that fell after 4:00? If it's not included in the next update it will never be found, AGAIN.


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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by Frank_Wx on Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:40 pm

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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:07 am

And the final tally comes in at 7.5 inches in the park.

It's close enough but probably a half inch to an inch light, but I'll give them this one which now makes 5 in a row.

At least they're trying, for now. Although the under counts from January and February have still not been corrected and at this point probably won't be.

42.5 inches for the season in CPK.
49.1 inches for the season at LGA which is about what CPK has actually had this year give or take an inch.
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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by Abba701 on Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:50 am

I emailed them asking if there would be another measurement

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Re: The Conservancy got it right for once

Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:58 am

Abba701 wrote:I emailed them asking if there would be another measurement

Nice job Abba.

If I should ever be captured or killed by NOAA I would like you to carry the torch for me in my lifelong pursuit of accurate snowfall measurements in CPK.
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