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Post by Snow88 on Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:01 am

Familia left a hanger to Gordon but the offense and especially Wright's error was the cause of this loss. They left way too many men on base, especially cuddyer, Have to get this tonight. Lets go Mets.

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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by Quietace on Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:23 am

Snow88 wrote:Familia left a hanger to Gordon but the offense and especially Wright's error was the cause of this loss. They left way too many men on base, especially cuddyer, Have to get this tonight. Lets go Mets.

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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by Dunnzoo on Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:13 am

Rough night, but they have never won the first game of the series (not that there have been many!) So on we go! Listened to the radio broadcast, can't stand the FOX team....

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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by Math23x7 on Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:39 pm

What people need to understand is that they way things currently are, home field advantage in the World Series is a big deal.   It isn't that big of a deal in the postseason rounds leading up to to the WS (LCS, LDS, WC Game).  And in the old days, it wasn't such a big deal.  In fact, from 1965-72, the team with home field advantage in the WS LOST the series (including the 1969 Orioles who lost to the Mets in the WS).  But what was introduced in 1973, the designated hitter! AND, and only one league opted to use it (the AL) while the NL continued to have the pitchers bat.  The current WS format began in 1986 where the DH/no-DH rule for any game in the series is dependent on where it is played.  Take 1986 for example.  Games 1, 2, 6, and 7 took place at Shea Stadium (an NL park) where the pitcher had to bat while Games 3, 4, 5 took place at Fenway Park (an AL park) where the DH was in effect).  Since this WS format was put into place, the team with home-field advantage in 22-6 (a .786 winning %)!  Think about last night.  The DH in the later innings for the Royals was Kendrys Morales.  For the Mets the DH was Cuddyer, who had a terrible night at the plate.

The six years where this was not the case usually involved dominant pitching performances (i.e. Josh Beckett in 2003 for the Marlins against the Yankees and Madison Bumgarner last year for the Giants against the Royals).  Jacob deGrom needs dominant outing against the Royals tonight.  The Royals bullpen last night showed why it is among the best in baseball allowing just an unearned run in the 8th inning.  If they come in and the Mets are trailing, they're done.  

And yes, I am still frustrated over last night's Mets debacle!

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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by Dunnzoo on Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:16 pm

Well that was ugly, Cuerto pitched a gem 2 hitter, Mets defense not good. Need to get on track and win 3 at home. Mets did lose first 2 in '86 so there is hope. I have tix to all 3 games this weekend and with my record at Citifield maybe it will help Wink

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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by docstox12 on Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:14 am

Representing the National League and playing this way.....DISGRACEFUL! Four errors, our two best starters putting up a 3.5o ERA and piss poor hitting.We are in a bad way.Even if we sweep at CITI, no small task watching these KC players who can HIT CONSISTENTLY, we still must win in KC.Can't blame Collins or the coches, it's all on the players.Captain Dave better get these guys in a room and give them a talking to.Include yourself Capt. Davey because you have stunk as far as I'm concerned.

Also agree with Dunz.Fox Broadcasters spenf all their time praising KC.By the way, Buck, get a damned shave.You look like a railroad bum.
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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by Dunnzoo on Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:44 am

TC waited too long in taking deGrom out. This is the WS and you can't give them a lead like that

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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by docstox12 on Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:03 am

Dunz, the way they are hitting, it didn't matter.They would have lost 1 to 0 if DeGrom went 9.Wright, Cuddyer, Cespedes...all terrible.Murphy magic is gone.Cubs must be cursing him out now.They know they would have done a better job than us against KC.
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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by Snow88 on Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:20 am



This team looks flat and tired.The hitting went away and they are making a lot of errors in the field. This Royals team is much better than the Dodgers and the Cubs. They love the fastballs and they are really patient at the plate. It's amazing how the Mets beat Kershaw, Grienke, Arrieta and Lester but couldn't beat Volquez and Cueto. The hitting fell asleep at the wrong time. The Mets better wake up in Queens. If not, the Royals have a chance to sweep the Mets . I really hope that doesn't happen. Mets came this far and hopefully they play like a playoff team soon.


Yes the Mets are down 0-2 but I am not giving up just yet. Come on guys, get your act straight and start winning games.




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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by docstox12 on Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:25 am

Snow88 wrote:

This team looks flat and tired.The hitting went away and they are making a lot of errors in the field. This Royals team is  much better than the Dodgers and the Cubs. They love the fastballs and they are really patient at the plate. It's amazing how the Mets beat Kershaw, Grienke, Arrieta and Lester but couldn't beat Volquez and Cueto. The hitting fell asleep at the wrong time. The Mets better wake up in Queens. If not, the Royals have a chance to sweep the Mets . I really hope that doesn't  happen. Mets came this far and hopefully they play like a playoff team soon.


Yes the Mets are down 0-2 but I am not giving up just yet. Come on guys, get your act straight and start winning games.





I think, snow88 that G__damned 5 day layoff between the last NLCS game and the series really screwed them up hitting wise.Much better to be wiped out and sharp than rested and off key.Pitchers have too much rest as well, they lose their timing.

Pulling for them all the way but realisticly speaking, this is a very tough team to pull off 4 wins after 2 losses.

At least we will get the World Series experience for the young pitchers and next year they won't be counting innings on them.The key will be getting a couple of young hitters like Cespedes who can CONSISTENTLY hit .300 bat in over 100 runs and hit 25-30 HR.s. That, plus the pitching staff shoul;d get us in again next year.
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Re: Mets 2015 Season

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Post by docstox12 on Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:20 am


Interesting but I'll need a "show me" game tonight by the Mets to believe any of this.
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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by Snow88 on Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:09 am

Today is the day when the Mets make the big turnaround and start the road to a great 4 game winning streak and taking the WS. Lets go Metssss.
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Post by docstox12 on Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:58 am

I'm with you! LGM!
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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by docstox12 on Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:11 am

Janet Magic does it again! You go,Girl!!!

Capt. Dave sets the tone.Great win.

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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by Snow88 on Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:58 am

Wow, it was nice seeing the Mets hit and score 9 runs. Noah was good tonight, mixing up his pitches. I am noticing that the Royals have a hard time with off speed pitches. Lets go Mets .

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Game 1: Mets lose by 1.
Game 2: Mets lose by 6.
Game 3: Mets win by 6.
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G1: Mets lose by 1
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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by Dunnzoo on Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:28 am

YES! What a fun night and crowd. Top it off with Piazza, Mookie, Johnny Franco and Jesse Orosco in the house...awesome! Back again tomorrow night! I just wish it was warmer and not windy. Freezing tonight! party party party

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Post by Math23x7 on Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:28 am

The other day, I brought up that since the current DH/no-rule that was first put into the World Series in 1986, home field advantage in the WS is a big deal with the home advantage team going 22-6.  Also, entering this WS, there have been 14 teams since then that have won Games 1 and 2 at home.  All 14 of them went on to win the WS (the 1986 Mets and 1996 Yankees lost the first two but at home and not on the road).

Take the 2000 Mets when they played the Yankees.  Game 1 featured a bone-headed base running blunder by Timo Perez by not hustling on a ball the hit off the wall at Yankee Stadium.  While they took the lead an inning later, Armando Benitez blew the lead in the bottom of the 9th and they lost in extra innings in a games that ends after 1 AM EDT.  Game 2, Roger Clemens (despite the broken bat controversy) dominated the Mets by throwing eight shutout innings to get the win.  Game 3, the Mets pull out a win at home to get back into the series.  However, Game 4, on the first pitch Bobby Jones gives up a home run to Derek Jeter and they lose that game and then Game 5 the Mets gave it up in the ninth inning again as they lost the series to the Yankees.

Now think about this series so far.  Game 1 featured a bone-headed play by Cespedes which allowed Escobar to circle the bases to give the Royals the early lead.  While the Mets did have a 4-3 lead going into the bottom of the 9th, Familia blew it by giving up a home run to Alex Gordon and the Mets lost in extra innings in a game that ended well after 1 AM EDT.  Game 2, Johnny Cueto dominated the Mets by pitching a complete game.  In Game 3, the Mets pull out a win to get back into the series.  Can Steven Matz compose himself to shutdown the Royals and avoid pulling a Bobby Jones.  Can Matt Harvey get the innings limit controversy off his shoulders by electrifying the crowd as the "Dark Knight"? 

The Mets were in this position 15 years ago after a Game 3 win at home.  I was ten years old back then and my school principal in the morning would play the pump up music for the team the won the night before.  The morning after Game 3, she played "Who Let the Mets Out?" to my delight.  Needless to say, things didn't go all that well for the Mets afterwards.

Finally, in regards to the 2-0 at home stat, the team that came the closest to busting this stat was the 2001 Yankees when they played the Arizona Diamondbacks.  The lost the first two in Arizona, won the next three Games at Yankee Stadium, lost in Arizona in Game 6 by a lot, but Game 7 they had a late lead and they blew it.  I remember soon after the D-backs took a 1-0 lead that night of Game 7, I had to go to bed because I had school the next day but found out the next morning in the newspaper the final score of 3-2. 

Of course there is a first for everything so I'm not completely ruling out the Mets, but it will be a challenge with the hole they dug themselves into in KC.

One more thing: LGM!

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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by docstox12 on Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:17 am

Snow88 wrote:Wow, it was nice seeing the Mets hit and score 9 runs. Noah was good tonight, mixing up his pitches. I am noticing that the Royals have a hard time with off speed pitches. Lets go Mets .

You tell them kid

Check  this out. Wow.
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Game 1: Mets lose by 1.
Game 2: Mets lose by 6.
Game 3: Mets win by 6.
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G1: Mets lose by 1
G2: Mets lose by 6
G3: Mets win by 6

http://www.amazinavenue.com/2015/10/30/9649540/links-between-the-1986-and-2015-mets-get-creepier

Good observation.KC guys are dead fastball hitters.More curves and sliders necessary.Hope Collins has Colon warming up at the start. Lot's of pressure on Matz and if he is crapping out, I'd get Colon in there, then Niese.Those guys can eat up innings until Reed in the 7th, Clippard in the 8th and Familia in the ninth.This is another critical game.
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Post by docstox12 on Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:21 am

Math23x7 wrote:The other day, I brought up that since the current DH/no-rule that was first put into the World Series in 1986, home field advantage in the WS is a big deal with the home advantage team going 22-6.  Also, entering this WS, there have been 14 teams since then that have won Games 1 and 2 at home.  All 14 of them went on to win the WS (the 1986 Mets and 1996 Yankees lost the first two but at home and not on the road).

Take the 2000 Mets when they played the Yankees.  Game 1 featured a bone-headed base running blunder by Timo Perez by not hustling on a ball the hit off the wall at Yankee Stadium.  While they took the lead an inning later, Armando Benitez blew the lead in the bottom of the 9th and they lost in extra innings in a games that ends after 1 AM EDT.  Game 2, Roger Clemens (despite the broken bat controversy) dominated the Mets by throwing eight shutout innings to get the win.  Game 3, the Mets pull out a win at home to get back into the series.  However, Game 4, on the first pitch Bobby Jones gives up a home run to Derek Jeter and they lose that game and then Game 5 the Mets gave it up in the ninth inning again as they lost the series to the Yankees.

Now think about this series so far.  Game 1 featured a bone-headed play by Cespedes which allowed Escobar to circle the bases to give the Royals the early lead.  While the Mets did have a 4-3 lead going into the bottom of the 9th, Familia blew it by giving up a home run to Alex Gordon and the Mets lost in extra innings in a game that ended well after 1 AM EDT.  Game 2, Johnny Cueto dominated the Mets by pitching a complete game.  In Game 3, the Mets pull out a win to get back into the series.  Can Steven Matz compose himself to shutdown the Royals and avoid pulling a Bobby Jones.  Can Matt Harvey get the innings limit controversy off his shoulders by electrifying the crowd as the "Dark Knight"? 

The Mets were in this position 15 years ago after a Game 3 win at home.  I was ten years old back then and my school principal in the morning would play the pump up music for the team the won the night before.  The morning after Game 3, she played "Who Let the Mets Out?" to my delight.  Needless to say, things didn't go all that well for the Mets afterwards.

Finally, in regards to the 2-0 at home stat, the team that came the closest to busting this stat was the 2001 Yankees when they played the Arizona Diamondbacks.  The lost the first two in Arizona, won the next three Games at Yankee Stadium, lost in Arizona in Game 6 by a lot, but Game 7 they had a late lead and they blew it.  I remember soon after the D-backs took a 1-0 lead that night of Game 7, I had to go to bed because I had school the next day but found out the next morning in the newspaper the final score of 3-2. 

Of course there is a first for everything so I'm not completely ruling out the Mets, but it will be a challenge with the hole they dug themselves into in KC.

One more thing: LGM!

Great stuff, Math.I was at that 2000 WS game where Jones gave up that first pitch homer to Jeter.Think we lost 3-2.The Yanks beat us fair and square.

The thing about the '86 Series is that we were beaten but for the Buckner choke play.They were opening Champaign bottles in the Boston clubhouse,LOL! Best all around Series where the Mets totally dominated was 1969.Seaver choked on the first game, we lost 5-3, but Kooseman won two Series games.We took four straight after that first loss.I consider Kooseman the money pitcher in that Series.
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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by Snow88 on Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:32 am

Mets should have been up 2-1. Rare blown save by Familia =(.
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Post by docstox12 on Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:47 pm

UGH!!! Sloppy, ugly game.Collins never should have brought Matz out for the 6th after they were hitting him in the 5th.Also should have taken out Clippard after the first walk.The bad Murphy came out tonight, boneheaded error on a DP ball.Cespedes blows it on the basepath to end the scoring threat.Not impressed with Cespedes at all, first game error reulting in inside the park HR, not hitting at all and this running error.I would not give him a big contract.Lagares is doing just as good and has better defense.Now Conforto is looking great for left field.Granderson will be back in right.Use the money they would pay Cespedes to get some younger good hitting kids.Don't mind seeing Murphy go either, he's streaky.He will have good trade value after the playoff run he had.

We are in a bad way now.Just hope we win tomorrow so I don't have to see these KC guys dancing around Citi Field.
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Re: Mets 2015 Season

Post by Dunnzoo on Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:27 am

It really fell apart when Clippard came in. I don't like him, he's too erratic. I like Robles and Reed for middle relief. Went to the game with Wax, he's still following weather, posting lots of model maps and an avid Mets fan like me. As far as I'm concerned, the WS is gravy on a re-building season. So I'm enjoying the fact that they are there. KC wants it more, they lost it last year and have had a taste of it. Next year I see the Mets stronger and more together with less injuries. LGM!

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Post by docstox12 on Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:57 am

Right now he should use Clippard in the 7th and Reed in the 8th.That gives the Mets more time to score if Clippard fails.Familia is a very good reliever, but not Mariano type.If he was, we would be 3-1 as we were leading in both games he blew.

You're right, Dunz. KC is hungry and they have the experience.These kids Gordon, Moustakis and Hosmer all came up together and are good consistent hitters.They put together base hits and score.Next year. WE'LL be hungry if we get back in the WS!!!

Big weakness for us they are exploiting is Granderson's weak arm.They consistently go from first to third.

Yes, it is a lot of fun being in the WS and will be good for our young pitchers and our next young great hitter Conforto.How about those two HR's he hit?! The future left fielder in place!!!
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