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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Dunnzoo on Thu May 12, 2016 9:17 am

Awesome night for Thor. But again, relying on the long ball. Several times they had men on base and couldn't drive them in. Hopefully they can get back to some small ball.

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Math23x7 on Thu May 12, 2016 10:29 pm

Now that Clayton Kershaw has plenty of run support, he just needs 24 outs to get a no-hitter. Ugh....gonna be a long night.....

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by docstox12 on Fri May 13, 2016 8:35 am

Math, games like that, you just have to tip your hat and move on.
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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Dunnzoo on Sun May 15, 2016 10:10 am

Bad call and an overall ugly game last night. Can't wait for them to get home. This has been one ugly road trip. Harvey still struggling, it's like every time he pitches, I feel they are going to lose, and there is no way they will send him down to work on it, even though that would be the best thing for him.

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Math23x7 on Tue May 17, 2016 10:54 pm

Dominant start by Syndergaard as he outpitched Max Scherzer tonight for the win!

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Math23x7 on Thu May 19, 2016 8:56 pm

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Dunnzoo on Thu May 19, 2016 10:56 pm

So ugly, feel bad that the reporters are really hounding him, asking for answers that he doesn't have. I have tickets for the 27th and 29th...1986 celebration weekend. Gonna get a ring and a jersey, and maybe Harvey won't pitch!

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by docstox12 on Fri May 20, 2016 5:48 am

Dunz, you made an excellent point in an earlier post that this guy needs to be sent down to the minors to find himself.This is not helping him at all, defeat after defeat.I'd use Verritt for a starter now and hope Wheeler can replace Harvey when he returns in July.Don't see Harvey's issues as mechanical.Some guys never come back from surgery.He has never reached the pre-surgery Harvey status.
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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Snow88 on Fri May 20, 2016 8:31 am

I was at the game last night. Harvey sucks.

The whole stadium was cursing and booing him when he left the mound.
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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by docstox12 on Fri May 20, 2016 1:30 pm

Don't agree with the stadium booing and cursing but this is New York and it's like a Roman Coliseum.With all that as a backdrop, its time to send him down to the minors before he mentally collapses.

Suddenly this "gold" rotation looks like copper.DeGrom down 2 MPH on his fastballs, Colon last starts shaky, Matz elbow concerns and Harvey on the rocks.Meanwhile Nats look dominant pitching wise with Scherzer,Gonzalez and Strasburg.Danny blew away Walker on this series.
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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Math23x7 on Fri May 20, 2016 6:46 pm

I think the problem Met fans like myself have is that during his tenure with the Mets, Harvey has presented himself in an apparently cocky form. From hanging out with supermodels, to making an appearance on the Jimmy Fallon show, to presenting himself at Knicks, Rangers, and even at Jeter's last home game, one would think that he has achieved success. Last year and in 2013, however, he was a very good pitcher so we could get over all of that. At this point in the season, he is not a good pitcher. The booing at Citi Field last night gave Harvey a clear message: Your honeymoon is over! It's time for him to put aside everything I mentioned above and put in 100% commitment toward getting the New York Mets to the Canyon of Heroes at the parade in November. Years ago, Steve Trachsel struggled early in the season for the Mets, then got sent down to work on his mechanics and came back a different pitcher. Maybe that's what Harvey should undergo.

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Dunnzoo on Fri May 20, 2016 9:44 pm

FINALLY! Matz pitches well and we pull out a WIN! party

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Dunnzoo on Sat May 21, 2016 8:08 pm

Big win today! Glad David can still play regularly. If they can pull off another win tomorrow it will give them some nice momentum going to DC and it will help Harvey's confidence. LGM!

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by docstox12 on Sun May 22, 2016 1:02 am

Yes, glad for Davey because he is trying so hard to work with his back problem.Gutty comeback game.Nice.Seem to be back on track.
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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Dunnzoo on Sun May 22, 2016 9:37 pm

Suuuuweeeeep! Thank goodness, we will have some momentum going into DC!

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Math23x7 on Sun May 22, 2016 10:19 pm

The weather for tomorrow is threatening for the Mets-Nats game in DC.  This is the 18Z RGEM at hr 29 (7 PM) showing the total precipitation between 6 and 7 PM tomorrow:



If tomorrow's game gets rained out, it will be interesting as to whether or not Tuesday will feature a day-night doubleheader.  If it does not, Terry Collins would have to decide on whether to pitch Colon on five days rest or Harvey on four days rest.  The 7 Line army is heading to DC on Tuesday specifically to support Harvey after he got lit up last Thursday.  If Colon pitches, it would defeat its purpose.  The wise choice would be to start Colon and frankly, that's what I would do.

Hopefully the game tomorrow gets played so this all becomes a moot point.

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Snow88 on Mon May 23, 2016 9:40 am

Syndergaard is a beast

Remember when he use to deal with command issues? Not anymore. Check out these stats.

5-2 1.94 era

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Dunnzoo on Mon May 23, 2016 11:29 pm

Another win for Big Sexy. In a postgame interview, he tells reporters he told the Nats catcher to have the pitcher just throw the ball over the plate, that he wasn't going to swing. And he didn't. His next at-bat, told him, really, not going to swing tonight. He has a little bit of a backache and didn't want to aggravate it with a 7-1 lead. Gotta love him! Now we see what happens at first base with Duda out.

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Snow88 on Mon May 23, 2016 11:32 pm

Cespedes has 15 homeruns already
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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Math23x7 on Tue May 24, 2016 9:27 pm

15 years ago Steve Trachsel went down to the minors to work on his mechanics and he came back much better than he was before. That's what Harvey needs to do. Plain and simple.  Of course, since Scott Boras is his agent, he may block the potential move.  If that is the case, Harvey may never be the same pitcher. I know that in 2010 when Oliver Perez was struggling, the Mets wanted to do the same thing, but Scott Boras, Ollie's agent, said that should not be done. He has pitched solely in relief since then. If he doesn't make a stint in the minors for rehab, then he could meet the same fate as Ollie did and he may never get the big contract that Harvey and Boras were hoping for.

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Snow88 on Tue May 24, 2016 11:52 pm

Harvey stormed right out of the stadium after the game without talking to the reporters. Kevin Plawecki had to answer all of the questions about Harvey. SMFH.



He is getting too cocky



Big Sexy > Harvey
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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by docstox12 on Wed May 25, 2016 7:47 am

Math23x7 wrote:15 years ago Steve Trachsel went down to the minors to work on his mechanics and he came back much better than he was before. That's what Harvey needs to do. Plain and simple.  Of course, since Scott Boras is his agent, he may block the potential move.  If that is the case, Harvey may never be the same pitcher. I know that in 2010 when Oliver Perez was struggling, the Mets wanted to do the same thing, but Scott Boras, Ollie's agent, said that should not be done. He has pitched solely in relief since then. If he doesn't make a stint in the minors for rehab, then he could meet the same fate as Ollie did and he may never get the big contract that Harvey and Boras were hoping for.

Dunz mentioned a few weeks ago that Harvey needed to be sent down and she hit the nail on the head.Harvey will become a head case like Mike Pelfrey did.It is doing Harvey no good to get beat to a pulp outing after outing.Gary Cohen mentioned his third time around the batting order stat is an ERA approaching 6.Gary mentioned the Mets don't know what to do .DUH!!! Send his arse down to the minors.He will regain confidence and relearn his mechanics.Ron Darling mentioned Harvey is holding the ball differently which causes a loss of control.

Too bad about Duda.He'ss take two or three months to get back in good order.
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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Dunnzoo on Wed May 25, 2016 8:14 am

I found a clip from Bull Durham but can't get it on here... when Meat is on the mound and he says to himself, " Don't think, just throw. Don't think, just throw." I'm going to the games Friday night and Sunday night to celebrate the '86 team. Hope there are no night storms.

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by Math23x7 on Wed May 25, 2016 9:17 pm

A very, VERY good outing by Steven Matz today!

If you look at our current rotation: Syndergaard: #1 starter, Matz: #2 starter, Colon: #3 starter, deGrom: #4 starter, Harvey: #5 starter.

I never thought I would put #4 and #5 where they are now.

Harvey will make his next scheduled start. I was stunned when I heard this. How far can they go with him before they remove him from the rotation?

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Re: 2016 Mets Season

Post by docstox12 on Thu May 26, 2016 12:08 pm

Math23x7 wrote:A very, VERY good outing by Steven Matz today!

If you look at our current rotation: Syndergaard: #1 starter, Matz: #2 starter, Colon: #3 starter, deGrom: #4 starter, Harvey: #5 starter.

I never thought I would put #4 and #5 where they are now.

Harvey will make his next scheduled start.  I was stunned when I heard this.  How far can they go with him before they remove him from the rotation?

I think Harvey is getting bad advice from that Boras guy who probably is saying that Harvey's value will go down if he has a stint in the minors.Harvey's obstinancy is just showing more and more what a self centered individual he is.A stint in the minors would help the TEAM, but oh no, Mr.Dark Knight's ego would not allow it.Got news for him.He isn't going to find himself on the mound of the majors right now.Maybe he needs to get his arse kicked a few more times and the management finds the stones to force this guy into the minors.

Anyway, while that drama plays out,your rotation above Mike, will be augmented by Wheeler so the Harvey disaster is not critical.Much more critical is the Lucas Duda injury and who they can get at first to come close to Duda's production.
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