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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by weatherwatchermom on Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:36 pm

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weatherwatchermom wrote:where did everyone go?

Burnt out from flip flopping model runs! Very Happy   I'm hoping for just enough snow to enjoy a white birthday! I think I will see 2"-3" here in NNJ. I finally have a break from the rat race tonight, so I am going to look at the short range models... hopefully they will give us a few inches!

I hope you have a wonderful Birthday!! party party it would be nice to get a few inches and maybe a snow day....terrible mother that I am...I love when my son is home...lol..I do not remember my mother ever wishing for a snow day!! anyway...have fun with the models..I am sipping tea and waiting for the posts...nothing good on Tv....
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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by aiannone on Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:44 pm

0z Nam running
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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by Frank_Wx on Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:47 pm

I updated the scroll. No sense in making a snow map for this event. The only negative is the steadiest snow is modeled to come during morning rush hour. I think coastal NJ and parts of LI stand the best shot of seeing 3"+, but that depends on the snowfall rates. Right now I don't see sufficient evidence to suggest there will be periods of heavy snow. Latest SREFS also cut back for those N&W of NYC, so this could be more of a C-2" ordeal for you.


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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by aiannone on Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:50 pm

SREF plume for ISP just updated, mean is 5" now
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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by Frank_Wx on Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:55 pm

aiannone wrote:SREF plume for ISP just updated, mean is 5" now

Don't think so. Looks like 2 inches.

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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by Frank_Wx on Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:57 pm

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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by Frank_Wx on Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:01 pm

aiannone wrote:

Does this combine the 2nd system? We only want up until 12z or 18z Friday

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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by Frank_Wx on Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:05 pm

NAM coming in healthy

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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by jmanley32 on Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:07 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:
aiannone wrote:

Does this combine the 2nd system? We only want up until 12z or 18z Friday

Looking at the bottom it appears thats several days including sat and part sun.  I didn't think sref went out that far.

And I'll take the yellow 20 inch one lol


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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by Frank_Wx on Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:07 pm

Congrats Governor Christie


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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by Frank_Wx on Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:08 pm

jmanley32 wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:
aiannone wrote:

Does this combine the 2nd system? We only want up until 12z or 18z Friday

Looking at the bottom it appears thats several days including sat and part sun.  I didn't think sref went out that far.

Yea, they go out about 4.5 days.

So 1st event is 2" and 2nd event is another 2-3" on the SREFS.


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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by aiannone on Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:08 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:
aiannone wrote:

Does this combine the 2nd system? We only want up until 12z or 18z Friday

Ahh, you are right. I can't believe I missed that. My bad. Yes then as you said, mean is 2.5" for this storm.
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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by Math23x7 on Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:09 pm

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That weenie member (ARP6) for LaGuardia Airport gives 4.26" of snow Friday morning and 10.77" of snow Friday night into Saturday for a combined 15.03" of snow. And I see that that member has over 20" of snow total, which to be honest I am not expecting. It is interesting to note, however, that I have plans to visit relatives in Islip Saturday afternoon so I am monitoring these two waves carefully.

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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by Frank_Wx on Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:10 pm

NAM looks good. Since they have a wet bias, I would still peg this a 1-3" event with more for coastal NJ and LI.

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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by aiannone on Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:11 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:NAM looks good. Since they have a wet bias, I would still peg this a 1-3" event with more for coastal NJ and LI.

Very true. I'll take it though. Will definitely be an event that will call for a salt and scrape.
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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by Dunnzoo on Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:29 pm

Nam totals for Friday afternoon gives me about 2" at 10:1






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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by Math23x7 on Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:10 pm

0Z RGEM is a coating at best.....

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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by aiannone on Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:14 pm

Math23x7 wrote:0Z RGEM is a coating at best.....

Model mayhem lol
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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by Armando Salvadore on Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:24 pm

Ratios won't be higher than 15:1 i can tell you that, soundings do not indicate at all that the ratios would get above 20:1. The dendrite growth zone is pretty deep, so there will be a nice deep layer for dendrites to grow. Max temp within the profile supports around 15:1, but would like to see more vertical velocity for this. Not too shabby of a light event. Agree with Frank's call.
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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by sroc4 on Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:27 pm

Armando. Maybe in a lull you can do a write up with graphics to educate me on reading soundings better. I'm headed to bed tonight but if you ever have the time it would be awesome.

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Re: January 5th-6th Wave 1 Snow Event

Post by Armando Salvadore on Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:30 pm

sroc4 wrote:Armando. Maybe in a lull you can do a write up with graphics to educate me on reading soundings better. I'm headed to bed tonight but if you ever have the time it would be awesome.

You sure bet i can teach ya! When we reach the winter hiatus of Jan, that is the best chance to do so!
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