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Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by Frank_Wx on Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:21 pm

This winter will receive a D grade from me. I finished below average with seasonal snowfall (around 20"), the cold shots were short lived, and the pattern change I called for end of JAN into early FEB did not come to fruition. Further, every single month finished above normal including a record warm February.

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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by SENJsnowman on Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:40 pm

I voted it a C, but really a C-. The lack of snow was a big time bummer, but the one storm my area did get (1/7) was at least nice: 8", snowed heavily from sun-up to sun-down, powdery snow not the wet stuff that's tough to shovel, lasted all week, and a Saturday so all the kids on the block could enjoy it.

I don't mind going back and forth between cold and warmer, so the temperature hasn't been a real negative for me.

Definitely would have enjoyed 1 more biggie though...maybe March still has some Lion left in it.

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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by Math23x7 on Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:57 pm

C     As warm as the winter was, it seems like each time time we had cold air, we were able to cash in on snow totals as was the case for 12/17, 1/7, ans 2/9, the latter of which had pretty impressive snowfall rates.  But the QBO was, and still is, the driver of the pattern.  The last four monthly QBO readings of 14.16, 15.09, 14.92, and 14.78 are the highest on record for November through February.  As a result, warm air dominated in the East.  And after this weekend, we will get some more warm air.

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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by billg315 on Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:41 pm

I have to give this winter a "D." I had three or four total snow events (an event meaning an inch or more). Only one of which would be classified as a "snowstorm" that being the system on Feb. 9. Even the Feb. 9 storm underperformed a bit as we had the potential for up to 10" and I got just over 5". Temperature wise it was largely warm or normal -- very few solid outbreaks of true winter cold. Frankly, I gave (and will continue to give) LAST winter a higher grade because the one storm last winter was at least historic for me. It was a 28" snowstorm with whiteout conditions for a few hours in the middle. A true snowstorm to remember. If I'm going to have a winter with only one real storm, it should at least be a major storm, not a mildly disruptive 5"-6" event. So in conclusion this is a "D."
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by docstox12 on Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:24 pm

I will grade the winter here in the Hudson Valley a C-.We are a bit below the 50 inch average here and I will re-grade to a C if we get that 5 inches this month.Even with the above average temperatures, there was a nice 14 inch all day snowstorm and 23 days of snowpack.It did go a little below zero a few mornings as well.Considering the above normal temperatures, it could have been much worse up here.
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by nutleyblizzard on Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:40 pm

What a frustrating winter. The cold spells were short lived, pattern was too progressive, and we never experienced any blocking. With the season winding down, I've received 17.8 inches which is well below my seasonal average. My grade is a D-.
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by skinsfan1177 on Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:57 pm

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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by hyde345 on Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:05 pm

I give it a C-. 36 inches is a lot better than last years brutal 6 inches up here but it was still below average snowfall( so far) and above average temps. Transient cold throughout the winter and pretty quick warming after snow events.
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by syosnow94 on Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:59 pm

Already did this. C. Even with almost 36" IMBY ON LI. It never stuck around and this year was as warm if NOT warmer than last year which was expected. Last year was a super El Niño. This year La Niña. The 36" was only around 19 days. Pathetic
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:19 am

D+

Even with near normal snowfall so far of 45 inches and a 30 day period of snow cover from January 24 to Feb 23 the complete torch from mid December through the end of February, (warmest February ever recorded BTW) and another Christmas week violated by ridiculous above normal temps a C- would be too generous.

For the record for me personally grading a winter by the amount of snow you get especially if the majority is from one storm like last year is ludicrous. I need to have snow cover for most of the December through February period at least, for me to feel like I had a winter. This season for the second year in a row I don't really feel like we had winter, just another extended fall.
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by Radz on Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:42 am

D for me, frustrating to say the least with only one good storm and really not enough time with any substantial snow cover to speak of, but i did enjoy the storm on Feb 9th...
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by Taffy on Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:51 pm

What winter?
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by amugs on Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:06 pm

C- 
Have 25" so far
3 good storms for snow.
Cold shots short lived, Dec was the best one from the 5th to 20th not harsh but good enough for 7/8 days of skating on the outdoor ice rink Good storm 12-17 for my bday.
Jan one week of winter good storm 1-7
Feb. 3 days of winter with a great storm rest of.month was ridiculous.
March remains to be seen but not bad with the snow squall Friday and cold three days, Saturday was so winter just wish that was after the storm in Feb.
SST did us in along with the QBO.  500mb map the LP over BC in CAN killed us was to strong, allowed the SE ridge to pump. Nino 1.2 went through the roof, cold water pool in NPAC emerged stronger and bigger. So a variability of factors came into play. Nina was there but set up 2011-12 like.

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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by mmanisca on Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:40 am

A C for me here in Deer Park 30 inches of snow is a bit above normal. Temperatures like everyone else were a total failure. Of course a 12 inch snowfall next weekend might give us a C+ or B -!!
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by Math23x7 on Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:43 pm

Bump.

If you could grade the winter now, what would you give it?

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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by track17 on Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:00 pm

I went an F for,the jersey shore so warm and well below average on snowfall

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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by billg315 on Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:01 pm

I'd give it a C now. This storm now gives me two significant storms plus a few minor snow events. And we've gotten some real winter cold the last couple weeks.
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by docstox12 on Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:02 pm

Well, in my part of the area , the HV, according to CP, 50 inches is average.We have almost 70.I raise my grade to a B.Even though there were warm spells, I grade a winter on snow amounts, and this one up here has been good.Still more chances, snow showers tomorrow and the weekend.may raise my grade to a B+.
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by Math23x7 on Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:19 pm

Another thing I like to add is this: this is the first time in a long time (perhaps 2008-09) that NYC has had plowable winter storms in December, January, February, and March. Recall the 12/17 storm which changed over the sleet making driving hazardous for the day, the 1/7 snowstorm with high ratios (which is why CPK's 5.1" is hideous), the 2/9 snowstorm with high snowfall rates, and the 3/14 snow/ice storm.

Let's look back at past winters:

2009-10: December/February had them, January only if you were on eastern LI (1/2/10), certainly not March
2010-11: December-February had them, March only 1" of snow which had a hard time sticking
2011-12: October and January resulting in two storms, otherwise, nothing to see
2012-13: November, February, and March, perhaps January if you include the 1.5" of snow on 1/25/13
2013-14: December-February had them, March, well, we all know about March 2014:
2014-15: January-March had them, December did not (the 1" of snow did not stick to pavement)
2015-16: January-February had them, March had two snow events that did not stick to pavement, and don't get me started on December 2015.

So this winter has featured a checkmark on all four months from December-March. It's a shame the warmth kind of ruins it though.

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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by Scullybutcher on Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:27 pm

Does this mean winter is over?
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by TheAresian on Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:41 pm

Upon further reflection, I'll raise this winter from a D to a C+. In an area not known for snow accumulation, 12"+ is a significant event.
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by amugs on Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:17 pm

C+ for me now

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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:37 pm

I now am upgrading from a D to C. I can't get beyond that warm stretch from Mid December through February.

We really should have a poll now April 1 considering that for the second time in three years March is the snowiest month of the winter.

Looking at temperatures now until the end of the month it could also turn out to be the coldest month this winter. Of course that's a huge indictment of December through February.
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by UnionWX on Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:13 pm

B here in NWNJ.
Great winter. Just had a 20" storm.
Above normal snow as well.
For my first year.. it has been fantastic. I was told it doesn't snow in NWNJ anymore, haha.
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Re: Grade Winter 2016-2017

Post by hyde345 on Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:33 pm

I have to give it a B now considering the 23.5 inches I have received in March with possibly more on the way. The only month of the winter that will probably be below normal too.
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