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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
are u thinking minor or major snows if it does come far enough west?rb924119 wrote:The potential for the end of this week is really interesting me for another I-95 special, and am expecting the models to again trend to this type of solution over the coming days. We shall see.
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rb924119 wrote:The potential for the end of this week is really interesting me for another I-95 special, and am expecting the models to again trend to this type of solution over the coming days. We shall see.
Teh PAC looks like wants to help us out again by pumping the PNA with an LP into the Aleutians EPO region - the buckle in the jet out there has been very good so far for us from the middle of Nov as projected. A protraction in the JET and a buckle always does wonders for us.
Moving forward the MJO is forecasted to go 7 then 8 -if teh GESF are correct and it is in this range and can get to 1 then watch out cause this wave means cold and stormy conditions on the east coast. The E MT is helping s well as the Low AAM .
AAM Forecast
GEFS MJO - root for this hard peeps!!
EURO - not bad eitehr but GEFS is much stronger and better for us here on the EC
GEFS has beaten the EURO the last few weeks on this amplitude - lets home it does so again.
Buckles in teh JET
Rb glad yuo like teh set up and possibility - weekend storm rule shall apply!!
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
jmanley32 wrote:are u thinking minor or major snows if it does come far enough west?rb924119 wrote:The potential for the end of this week is really interesting me for another I-95 special, and am expecting the models to again trend to this type of solution over the coming days. We shall see.
Pretty much very similar to what we just saw in terms of totals, again, if it does actually happen lol
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
Sanchize06 wrote:CMC
CMC for Saturday. Snow map is 10:1 ratio. As per cMC verbatim it would be more like 12-15:1 ratios with surface temps between 28-30* and 925-850’s between -7 to -11 throughout the event. A solid 6-9” with ratios verbatim. Come on euro!!
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
rb924119 wrote:jmanley32 wrote:are u thinking minor or major snows if it does come far enough west?rb924119 wrote:The potential for the end of this week is really interesting me for another I-95 special, and am expecting the models to again trend to this type of solution over the coming days. We shall see.
Pretty much very similar to what we just saw in terms of totals, again, if it does actually happen lol
If it happens...exactly. Only difference is it looks a lot colder at least per the CMC verbatim
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sroc4 wrote:Sanchize06 wrote:CMC
CMC for Saturday. Snow map is 10:1 ratio. As per cMC verbatim it would be more like 12-15:1 ratios with surface temps between 28-30* and 925-850’s between -7 to -11 throughout the event. A solid 6-9” with ratios verbatim. Come on euro!!
Yeah and it would help as per the CMC it would be coming in overnight also
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
Euro says.....oh you want snow this weekend????
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
I'm not worried lol the NAM looks like the CMC, so at least the CMC isn't entirely alone ahaha
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
Just like the last storm, this storm is going to be partially fueled by a wave that is being discharged directly from the Arctic, and I'm hedging my bet that the models are under-representing the strength and speed of that wave, just like this last storm. It's a test of a hypothesis, so if I crash and burn at least I'll know to use that idea with caution AhahAha I also think that the system should trend further north and west based on the hemispheric teleconnections.
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
rb924119 wrote:Just like the last storm, this storm is going to be partially fueled by a wave that is being discharged directly from the Arctic, and I'm hedging my bet that the models are under-representing the strength and speed of that wave, just like this last storm. It's a test of a hypothesis, so if I crash and burn at least I'll know to use that idea with caution AhahAha I also think that the system should trend further north and west based on the hemispheric teleconnections.
Good stuff rb and clippers do like to trend North - thinking a solid coating to 1.5" maybe over the area
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
rb924119 wrote:I'm not worried lol the NAM looks like the CMC, so at least the CMC isn't entirely alone ahaha
I'm just trying to be funny. I know better than to throw in the towel.
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
sroc4 wrote:rb924119 wrote:I'm not worried lol the NAM looks like the CMC, so at least the CMC isn't entirely alone ahaha
I'm just trying to be funny. I know better than to throw in the towel.
I know ahaha you're a seasoned vet.....I'd expect nothing less lmao
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
18z NAM looks nice for the clipper over LI
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
aiannone wrote:18z NAM looks nice for the clipper over LI
I moooved this over to the ec Obs and discussion thread. For now lets cont model discussion over there. If it gets more widespread or even wetter then we will make a separate thread for it. If its mostly a light event for a small areaq we can discuss it there for now. As far as the weekend threat a few more days and we can start a thread for it if its looking legit.
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
If you have a subscription the weather Bell JB has a really nice video explaining the LR pattern and why no one should panic. It falls in line with what Isotherm posted a few days ago in that cold and snow chances are increasing. Unfort you need a subscription to view the video
https://www.weatherbell.com/video/the-atmospheric-avenger-775?full
https://www.weatherbell.com/video/the-atmospheric-avenger-775?full
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
Are there any legitimate threats in the LR over the next 2 weeks?
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
MJO going into Phase 8 by the 22nd we get some VERY GOOD chances!!lglickman1 wrote:Are there any legitimate threats in the LR over the next 2 weeks?
Could be a nightmare Xmas night!!! Last time ................2002!
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
Mugs am I looking at it wrong but that looks like a warm look for most of nj
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
track17 wrote:Mugs am I looking at it wrong but that looks like a warm look for most of nj
This far out we typically wouldnt worry about those details. If a there were a LP centered where that image shows, the dynamics of the storm and the details of the pattern would change these lines, for better or worse, when we were much closer in time. All we look for is the signal for a storm.
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
Track with MJO phase going into 8 and a deep Negative EPO to funnel cold air into the region and an East BASed Block showing up we may not have temp issues, for those NW tehre will not be temp issues as currently modelled from the 23rd on.
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
I have travel on the 23rd and 24th so I'm sorry but hoping it won't be bad. 25th would be perfect!
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
The 22-27 looks mighty promising
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
Do tell skins you are the jersey shore expert
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
Starts this weekend through the end of the year book it!!
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Re: Long Range Thread 15.0
amugs wrote:Starts this weekend through the end of the year book it!!
Mugsy the 18z GFS was drool worthy. Things are going in the right direction
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