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Post by aiannone on Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:01 pm

syosnow94 wrote:4” here. Snowing moderately.  The compaction is incredible.  It snows hard for 20 minutes and piles up. Then it slows down and melts and compacts in front of your eyes. We’ve had enough snow that at 10:1 we would be close to 8 or so inches.  Instead we are like 5 or 6:1 ratios

Up to 34” for the season.  Above normal somehow

Same problem here
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Post by Radz on Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:05 pm

11pm, 6.5" accumulation pretty much done...
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Post by NjWeatherGuy on Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:05 pm

About 5" here total most likely. Compacting quickly, incredibly dense snow, trees look like they have leaves they're so covered and drooping. Outages probably a concern. None here right now though.
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Post by amugs on Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:07 pm

syosnow94 wrote:
amugs wrote:
syosnow94 wrote:Told you double digits would be reached 2 hours ago.

You called 2-4" and said the counties I called out on the RGEM would get nuked and you disgreed.
Only when the storm was rolling hot did u make this call.

No stop I was showing the rgem off metocenter maps if you recall that we were getting nuked. You said in your such optomositic way that it wasn't a nuke as per the TT maps and besides the rgem had TT maps had purple barney of 6" over my area. You and Math are need to be sent OTI secror 13 for a few days!!

End of discussion.

PS still snowing here and heavy!!


You claimed the RGEM solution showing 3-5” was a nuke.  It’s not.  8-10” in 5 or 6 hours IS A NUKE.  YOU DIDNT CALL THAT!

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Post by bobjohnsonforthehall on Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:07 pm

Ended at about 4 inches in Flemington
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Post by aiannone on Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:18 pm

Compacted quickly here also. However trees are very weighed down.
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Post by Dtone on Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:36 pm

I can here the dripping of melting snow soon as the intensity dropped off. Around 4", compacting to a couple slushy inches now. Fast and furious event. Enjoy while you can.


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Re: FEB 17th-18th Snow? Sleet? Rain?

Post by Dunnzoo on Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:29 am

aiannone wrote:Dynamic cooling will be the key. Recall the last “surprise snowstorm on LI”. Temps were in the 40s all day, 37 on the onset and not much was accumulating. It occurred at night as well. As precip picked up temps dropped to 32 and snow began to stick. No high to the north either. Than as the precip became even heavier temps dropped all the way down to 26 degrees. Immediately after the precip ended temps rebounded to 38. Don’t underestimate dynamic cooling when upper levels are cold

Alex called it gang! What an awesome storm! 9.2" is a fab surprise. With temps holding at 32° everything should clear nicely for the road crews tonight and have clear roads tomorrow.

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Post by NjWeatherGuy on Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:34 am

Dunnzoo wrote:
aiannone wrote:Dynamic cooling will be the key. Recall the last “surprise snowstorm on LI”. Temps were in the 40s all day, 37 on the onset and not much was accumulating. It occurred at night as well. As precip picked up temps dropped to 32 and snow began to stick. No high to the north either. Than as the precip became even heavier temps dropped all the way down to 26 degrees. Immediately after the precip ended temps rebounded to 38. Don’t underestimate dynamic cooling when upper levels are cold

Alex called it gang! What an awesome storm! 9.2" is a fab surprise. With temps holding at 32° everything should clear nicely for the road crews tonight and have clear roads tomorrow.

Congrats! Yes plow crews working fast here, melting quickly, around 32. Roads seem to be improving quickly. Will prob be all gone by this time tomorrow haha
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Post by nutleyblizzard on Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:07 am

Ended up with 5.5". Nice event despite the bad pattern we've been in lately.
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Post by Math23x7 on Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:18 am

As I mentioned before, I went to Woodlawn/Yonkers/Wakefield earlier tonight to get in on not only heavier snowfall but also stickage on pavements, which I got!!!

Anyway, Just after midnight, I went to Central Park and measured the snow where I measured the 1/4 and 1/17 snow amounts. James was mentioning earlier the compaction of snow from this system. The snow had tapered off and started to melt by this time so I measured around 2" give or take. It was a slushy measurement too. I know the NWS snow updates are at 7 PM and 12 AM so hopefully the Conservancy took a measurement in between. I'm not holding my breath though...

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Post by Math23x7 on Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:36 am

Well the amounts were just posted and CPK comes in at 4.4". SO I guess they took compaction and melting into account to measure 3.4" after 7 PM. Given the other three NWS station totals between 7 PM and 12 AM (EWR 2.2 since 7 PM for a 2.8" total; JFK 2.1" since 7 PM for a 2.1" total; LGA 3.6" since 7 PM for a 3.9" total), this seems reasonable. CP, I would like to hear your thoughts.

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Post by brownie on Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:11 am

Seems to be 7.5 inches here total. Definitely more than I was expecting!

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Post by Scullybutcher on Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:58 am

By the looks of outside for me the storm finished with rain. Maybe 2 inches of very wet almost frozen snow on colder surfaces. Driveway has maybe a 1/4”
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Post by docstox12 on Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:21 am

Final total 5.25 inches here.Hey, congrats to Mugs and Janet!!! It's great to see you two be in the bulls eye for this.Beautiful winter landscape out there with the sun rising now.Always nicer to see white rather than brown in February.
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Post by heehaw453 on Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:56 am

7" final total here. Not too shabby.

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Post by amugs on Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:28 am

Dunnzoo wrote:
aiannone wrote:Dynamic cooling will be the key. Recall the last “surprise snowstorm on LI”. Temps were in the 40s all day, 37 on the onset and not much was accumulating. It occurred at night as well. As precip picked up temps dropped to 32 and snow began to stick. No high to the north either. Than as the precip became even heavier temps dropped all the way down to 26 degrees. Immediately after the precip ended temps rebounded to 38. Don’t underestimate dynamic cooling when upper levels are cold

Alex called it gang! What an awesome storm! 9.2" is a fab surprise. With temps holding at 32° everything should clear nicely for the road crews tonight and have clear roads tomorrow.

ZOOOOOOOO!! Awesome job neighbor!! WE FINALLY DIDNIT!! Could it be a sign of things to come or....just an aberration?? LOL.
Told you Rudy was drinking the Nog down in B field LOL!!
Hope u had a good time at the shin dig last night and made it home okay.
Here is the scnene it's mornin!



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Post by amugs on Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:30 am

Doc thank u sir and here's to the last week of Feb like 26th onward through mid March!! For u hopefully the end of March!

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Post by billg315 on Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:32 am

Love those pics. Wet snow (while bad for power lines, and my back when shoveling) always makes for the picturesque scenes.
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Post by billg315 on Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:37 am

Here are some final NJ totals from the NWS:
Hunterdon County...
Lebanon 8.8 1116 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Ringoes 6.5 956 PM 2/17 Social Media
Glen Gardner 6.0 718 PM 2/17 Social Media
Readington Twp 4.8 642 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Kingwood 4.7 1119 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Flemington 4.7 1010 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter

...Mercer County...
Princeton 5.1 1118 PM 2/17 Social Media
Ewing Twp 3.0 1024 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Ewing 2.9 1101 PM 2/17 Social Media

...Middlesex County...
Port Reading 4.3 1114 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Edison 4.2 455 AM 2/18 S Edison near US1.
South Plainfield 4.0 941 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Cheesequake 3.7 1031 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
New Brunswick 3.5 1021 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
East Brunswick 3.5 1034 PM 2/17 Social Media
1 WSW Carteret 2.5 846 PM 2/17 CoCoRaHS

...Monmouth County...
Freehold 3.2 1039 PM 2/17 Social Media
Colts Neck 3.0 936 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Middletown 2.0 928 PM 2/17 Social Media
Howell 1.8 1020 PM 2/17 Social Media
ENE Howell Twp 1.7 1151 PM 2/17 CoCoRaHS
Neptune City 1.5 947 PM 2/17 Social Media
Rumson 1.3 453 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Allentown 1.0 808 PM 2/17 Social Media

...Morris County...
Schooleys Mountain 9.5 1139 PM 2/17 Social Media
Randolph Twp 9.2 1102 PM 2/17 Social Media
Rockaway 9.0 1022 PM 2/17 Social Media
Mine Hill 9.0 1126 PM 2/17 Social Media
Succasunna 9.0 1138 PM 2/17 Social Media
Budd Lake 8.5 503 AM 2/18 Social Media
Roxbury Twp 8.5 1103 PM 2/17 Social Media
Morristown 8.3 459 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Denville 8.2 451 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Green Pond 8.1 1121 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Butler 8.1 1101 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Mount Arlington 8.0 631 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Marcella 8.0 1213 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Wharton 8.0 926 PM 2/17 Social Media
2 E Randolph Twp 8.0 912 PM 2/17 CoCoRaHS
Morris Twp 8.0 1137 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Lake Hopatcong 7.5 931 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
1 ESE Franklin 6.8 853 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Millington 6.8 1105 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Parsippany 6.0 844 PM 2/17 Social Media
Springtown 5.8 842 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter

...Ocean County...
Brick Twp 1.5 858 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Forked River 0.2 513 AM 2/18 Social Media
Waretown 0.2 1205 AM 2/18 Social Media
6 E Lacey Twp T 514 AM 2/18 CoCoRaHS

...Somerset County...
Basking Ridge 7.0 1113 PM 2/17 Social Media
2 S Bernards Twp 7.0 1056 PM 2/17 CoCoRaHS
Warren Twp 6.0 1115 PM 2/17 Meteorologist
Bernardsville 5.5 1118 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Bridgewater Twp 5.2 1120 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Somerville 4.5 1210 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
NW Bridgewater Twp 3.3 812 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter

...Sussex County...
Newton 5.5 856 PM 2/17 Social Media
Highland Lake 5.3 630 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Highland Lakes 4.2 1036 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Sussex 3.9 1113 PM 2/17 Social Media
3 N Wantage 2.7 859 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter

...Warren County...
1 ENE Washington 9.3 1159 PM 2/17 CoCoRaHS
Washington 8.3 1012 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Harmony Twp 8.0 836 PM 2/17 Social Media
2 S Greenwich Twp 7.6 1047 PM 2/17 CoCoRaHS
Stewartsville 7.6 1035 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Oxford 7.5 500 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Hackettstown 7.0 1157 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Allamuchy 6.3 629 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Blairstown 6.0 948 PM 2/17 CoCoRaHS
2 W Blairstown 5.8 1018 PM 2/17 CoCoRaHS
Phillipsburg 5.7 828 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Marksboro 5.5 837 PM 2/17 Social Media
Columbia 5.5 857 PM 2/17 Social Media
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Post by billg315 on Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:42 am

And the ones from NWS Upton:
NEW JERSEY

...Bergen County...
Westwood 9.2 1159 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Allendale 9.0 1111 PM 2/17 Public
Franklin Lakes 8.7 1150 PM 2/17 Public
Ridgewood 8.0 1200 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Oradell 7.5 930 PM 2/17 Social Media
Rivervale 7.4 1015 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Paramus 5.5 1037 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Mahwah 5.2 930 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
East Rutherford 3.6 1054 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter

...Essex County...
Cedar Grove 8.2 1256 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
West Orange 6.0 857 PM 2/17 Social Media
South Orange 5.0 1147 PM 2/17 Social Media

...Hudson County...
Harrison 3.5 850 PM 2/17 Co-Op Observer

...Passaic County...
Woodland Park 7.6 1002 PM 2/17 Social Media
Ringwood 7.5 1030 PM 2/17 Amateur Radio
Wayne 7.4 912 PM 2/17 Social Media
Totowa 7.3 921 PM 2/17 Social Media
West Milford 7.3 1045 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Hawthorne 7.1 1215 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Bloomingdale 6.3 1000 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter

...Union County...
Plainfield 5.2 1053 PM 2/17 Social Media
Newark Airport 3.1 100 AM 2/18 FAA Contract

NEW YORK

...Bronx County...
1 NE Riverdale 5.0 1130 PM 2/17 CoCoRaHS
Morris Park 4.8 1105 PM 2/17 Public

...Kings County...
Williamsburg 3.5 1036 PM 2/17 Social Media
Sheepshead Bay 2.5 1100 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Fort Hamilton 1.0 900 PM 2/17 CoCoRaHS

...Nassau County...
Levittown 4.2 1135 PM 2/17 Public
North Massapequa 3.8 1120 PM 2/17 Social Media
Thomaston 3.8 1036 PM 2/17 Social Media
Wantagh 2.6 1130 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
1 S Merrick 1.8 1230 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter

...New York County...
Yorkville 5.0 950 PM 2/17 Public
Central Park 4.4 1200 AM 2/18 Park Conservancy
Harlem River Houses 2.6 1045 PM 2/17 CoCoRaHS
Upper West Side 2.5 840 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter

...Orange County...
Monroe 4.5 700 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Vails Gate 4.0 1100 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Salisbury Mills 4.0 520 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Mount Hope 3.8 745 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
1 NNW Berea 3.6 1055 PM 2/17 CoCoRaHS

...Putnam County...
Brewster 6.0 700 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Putnam Valley 5.8 1210 AM 2/18 Newspaper
Mahopac 4.5 458 AM 2/18 Public
Cold Spring 4.4 715 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Baldwin Place 4.0 900 PM 2/17 Social Media

...Queens County...
Whitestone 5.0 1100 PM 2/17 Public
Bayside 4.8 1047 PM 2/17 Social Media
NYC/LaGuardia Airpor 4.3 100 AM 2/18 FAA Contract Observer
Little Neck 3.3 1030 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Elmhurst 3.2 1200 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Rego Park 3.0 1040 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
NYC/JFK Airport 2.3 100 AM 2/18 FAA Contract Observer
Howard Beach 2.0 1130 PM 2/17 Broadcast Media

...Richmond County...
Sunnyside 2.1 820 PM 2/17 Social Media

...Rockland County...
Monsey 7.8 1100 PM 2/17 Public
New City 7.5 1030 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Nyack 7.0 1215 AM 2/18 Public
Stony Point 7.0 1150 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter
Congers 6.3 1135 PM 2/17 Fire Dept/Rescue
Spring Valley 5.9 1024 PM 2/17 Social Media

...Suffolk County...
Commack 3.2 1130 PM 2/17 Public
North Babylon 3.2 1230 AM 2/18 NWS Employee
Smithtown 3.0 723 AM 2/18 Public
St. James 2.9 1200 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Sound Beach 2.7 645 AM 2/18 NWS Employee
Babylon 2.5 1136 PM 2/17 Social Media
2 SE Ridge 2.0 141 AM 2/18 CoCoRaHS
Lake Ronkonkoma 2.0 129 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Brentwood 1.5 923 PM 2/17 Social Media
Kings Park 1.3 840 PM 2/17 Social Media
Yaphank 1.3 1159 PM 2/17 Public
Islip Airport 1.2 100 AM 2/18 FAA Contract Observer
Upton 1.2 100 AM 2/18 NWS Office
Orient 1.0 856 PM 2/17 Trained Spotter

...Westchester County...
Croton-on-Hudson 7.7 1100 PM 2/17 Social Media
White Plains 7.5 1100 PM 2/17 Public
Hastings-On-hudson 7.5 721 AM 2/18 Public
Harrison 7.4 300 AM 2/18 Public
Mount Kisco 7.2 300 AM 2/18 Public
Armonk 7.2 1140 PM 2/17 Public
Mamaroneck 7.1 320 AM 2/18 Public
Katonah 7.0 700 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Valhalla 6.5 937 PM 2/17 Social Media
Yonkers 6.5 1245 AM 2/18 Trained Spotter
Irvington 6.5 1013 PM 2/17 Social Media
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Re: FEB 17th-18th Snow? Sleet? Rain?

Post by syosnow94 on Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:53 am

Nice storm in this horrendous pattern. The king NAM nailed it again. If I remember right it was showing about 3-5” for the city and LI and 6-8” just west and north.

Area wide 4-9” not too shabby. Enjoy it’ll be gone by tomorrow. Mugs great pictures. Love the American flag with all the white behind it. But you still called 3-5” a nuke which it’s not tongue

Heading down to Williamsburg VA with the family for 6 days. Temps Tuesday Wednesday in the mid to upper 70’s. Outdoor swimming and tons of golf hopefully. 10 families going down
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Post by hyde345 on Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:54 am

Finished with 4 inches in Hyde Park. 34 for the season so far.
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Post by docstox12 on Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:01 am

amugs wrote:Doc thank u sir and here's to the last week of Feb like 26th onward through mid March!! For u hopefully the end of March!

OK, Mugsy, you put so much work in this site and I'm glad you cashed in the jackpot zone! CP and I will look to March for more snow up here!
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Post by weatherwatchermom on Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:07 am

We had 2.25 inches last night...love love love the snow!! Congrats Mugsy!! Dunzoo!! so glad you guys got to jackpot!!!
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