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Post by jmanley32 on Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:22 pm

brownie wrote:
weatherwatchermom wrote:ok..I missed something somewhere..what is the reputation under our avatar's...been meaning to ask..but did not want to during all the storm watching we have been doing...tia
I think it’s how many times someone has clicked “like” for one of your posts.
Its exactly that : )
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Post by weatherwatchermom on Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:34 am

Thanks for the info brownie and jman..gave you both a click
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Post by mikeypizano on Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:22 pm

Get your shovels ready, I got another weed whacker!
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:23 pm

Excellent Mikey P. You’re doing your part hopefully the storm does its.
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Post by mikeypizano on Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:25 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:Excellent Mikey P. You’re doing your part hopefully the storm does its.

I wasn't going to but it was on clearance for 180, and a battery is 170. They released a newer model that I don't like that has a smaller battery.
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Post by mikeypizano on Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:32 pm

I got the blower and trimmer last year (when these pictures were taken), and I use them more than I use my Stihl stuff now for smaller jobs.



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Post by Grselig on Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:53 am

I've said this before. Science, analysis and logic will not work. We need good old fashioned superstition to pull this off. i say we freeze all of Mikey P's lawn equipment. Mikey its for the greater good!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by mikeypizano on Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:55 am

Grselig wrote:I've said this before.  Science, analysis and logic will not work.  We need good old fashioned superstition to pull this off.  i say we freeze all of Mikey P's lawn equipment.   Mikey its for the greater good!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck, its 34* here now! Laughing
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Post by billg315 on Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:08 pm

To build on what I just said in the storm thread (but this is more banterish) I think I tend to have a skewed perspective. I think snow lovers have been spoiled in the last 10-15 years with so many big 10, 20, 30” storms. During my formative years as a weather student/hobbyist we had nothing like that. From 1985 to 1992 where I lived we had very little snow. It wasn’t until the storm in March 1993 that that horrible cycle was broken. During that stretch (especially 1988 to 1992) I was lucky to get a 4-6” storm. Anything bigger was mostly unheard of. In four years of high school we had ONE (1) snow day. They in fact did a mock ceremony at my school (as a joke) “retiring our schools snow closing number because it was never used. So I tend to be happy with the occasional smaller snow event whereas it seems many people would rather just get nothing if it’s not over 10”.
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Post by Grselig on Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:12 pm




Done! Now the trend will get stronger. Sorry Mikey!!


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Post by Grselig on Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:14 pm

Bill, you are correct. I remember 1996 so vividly for that reason. it was a lifetime storm. 1983 and 1978 also. Since Boxing Day we have seen some very nice hits. Even this year, for me, 20 inches is a big hit. 6-8 inches was a very good storm and a foot was special.
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Post by SNOW MAN on Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:24 pm

Does anyone think that this was our last shot at snow for this Winter season or is there another chance down the road ?
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Post by mikeypizano on Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:57 pm

Grselig wrote:


Done!  Now the trend will get stronger.  Sorry Mikey!!



NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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Post by docstox12 on Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:10 pm

billg315 wrote:To build on what I just said in the storm thread (but this is more banterish) I think I tend to have a skewed perspective. I think snow lovers have been spoiled in the last 10-15 years with so many big 10, 20, 30” storms. During my formative years as a weather student/hobbyist we had nothing like that. From 1985 to 1992 where I lived we had very little snow. It wasn’t until the storm in March 1993 that that horrible cycle was broken. During that stretch (especially 1988 to 1992) I was lucky to get a 4-6” storm. Anything bigger was mostly unheard of. In four years of high school we had ONE (1) snow day. They in fact did a mock ceremony at my school (as a joke) “retiring our schools snow closing number because it was never used. So I tend to be happy with the occasional smaller snow event whereas it seems many people would rather just get nothing if it’s not over 10”.

Yes, the 70's and 80's were terrible compared to what's been happening 2000 on.The only period I can compare to recent times is the 1960's where we had 16 inch plus snowstorms in Dec 1960, Jan 1961, Feb 1961, Jan 1964, Feb 1967 and the Mayor Lindsay Snowstorm of Feb 1969.I saw every one of them start to end.1978 was the Jan and Feb snowstorms, that's it.Feb 1983 was the big one for that decade.The last 18 years have been incredible compared to the 70's and 80's.
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Post by docstox12 on Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:12 pm

SNOW MAN wrote:Does anyone think that this was our last shot at snow for this Winter season or is there another chance down the road ?

SNOWMAN, I think it was mentioned there might be some more chances before winter winds down.
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Post by Grselig on Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:22 pm

docstox12 wrote:
billg315 wrote:To build on what I just said in the storm thread (but this is more banterish) I think I tend to have a skewed perspective. I think snow lovers have been spoiled in the last 10-15 years with so many big 10, 20, 30” storms. During my formative years as a weather student/hobbyist we had nothing like that. From 1985 to 1992 where I lived we had very little snow. It wasn’t until the storm in March 1993 that that horrible cycle was broken. During that stretch (especially 1988 to 1992) I was lucky to get a 4-6” storm. Anything bigger was mostly unheard of. In four years of high school we had ONE (1) snow day. They in fact did a mock ceremony at my school (as a joke) “retiring our schools snow closing number because it was never used. So I tend to be happy with the occasional smaller snow event whereas it seems many people would rather just get nothing if it’s not over 10”.

Yes, the 70's and 80's were terrible compared to what's been happening 2000 on.The only period I can compare to recent times is the 1960's where we had 16 inch plus snowstorms in Dec 1960, Jan 1961, Feb 1961, Jan 1964, Feb 1967 and the Mayor Lindsay Snowstorm of Feb 1969.I saw every one of them start to end.1978 was the Jan and Feb snowstorms, that's it.Feb 1983 was the big one for that decade.The last 18 years have been incredible compared to the 70's and 80's.


I now wonder what the snowfall patterns were in the earlier half of the 20th century? Were the 70-80s the norm and we just got lucky recently?
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Post by billg315 on Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:56 pm

It’s largely cyclical. Just using NYC (C Park) as a data point (which isn’t perfect because sometimes areas around the city do better than the city), here is what we’d see:
1900-1923 was pretty good, 7 years with 40-plus inches (4 with 50-plus, including a 60” in 1923). Vast majority over 20”.
1924-1933 not as good, 5 years below 15” including one year with just 5”.
1950-1955 really bad, below 20” every year. 3 years below 15”.
The 70s, 80s and first three years of the 90s stand out as particularly bad (except 1978.)
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Post by Grselig on Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:00 pm

billg315 wrote:It’s largely cyclical. Just using NYC (C Park) as a data point (which isn’t perfect because sometimes areas around the city do better than the city), here is what we’d see:
1900-1923 was pretty good, 7 years with 40-plus inches (4 with 50-plus, including a 60” in 1923). Vast majority over 20”.
1924-1933 not as good, 5 years below 15” including one year with just 5”.
1950-1955 really bad, below 20” every year. 3 years below 15”.
The 70s, 80s and first three years of the 90s stand out as particularly bad (except 1978.)

Thanks!
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:57 pm

Grselig wrote:
docstox12 wrote:
billg315 wrote:To build on what I just said in the storm thread (but this is more banterish) I think I tend to have a skewed perspective. I think snow lovers have been spoiled in the last 10-15 years with so many big 10, 20, 30” storms. During my formative years as a weather student/hobbyist we had nothing like that. From 1985 to 1992 where I lived we had very little snow. It wasn’t until the storm in March 1993 that that horrible cycle was broken. During that stretch (especially 1988 to 1992) I was lucky to get a 4-6” storm. Anything bigger was mostly unheard of. In four years of high school we had ONE (1) snow day. They in fact did a mock ceremony at my school (as a joke) “retiring our schools snow closing number because it was never used. So I tend to be happy with the occasional smaller snow event whereas it seems many people would rather just get nothing if it’s not over 10”.

Yes, the 70's and 80's were terrible compared to what's been happening 2000 on.The only period I can compare to recent times is the 1960's where we had 16 inch plus snowstorms in Dec 1960, Jan 1961, Feb 1961, Jan 1964, Feb 1967 and the Mayor Lindsay Snowstorm of Feb 1969.I saw every one of them start to end.1978 was the Jan and Feb snowstorms, that's it.Feb 1983 was the big one for that decade.The last 18 years have been incredible compared to the 70's and 80's.



I now wonder what the snowfall patterns were in the earlier half of the 20th century?  Were the 70-80s the norm and we just got lucky recently?

Asolutely not.

The 1970's and especially the 1980's because they were the even worse then the 70's were the two most snowless decades on record by far in recorded history (since 1869).

The 1960's as Doc has pointed out were exceptional for snowfall and on top of that much colder winters than now. The 1970's were colder but big snows in NYC were not seen much in the 1970's.

Bills description which I now see before I posted is a fair and good summary.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:34 pm

billg315 wrote:
syosnow94 wrote:It’s like the NWS copies my map
I'm going with this theory. Wink

It's the crayons. NWS probably figures him to be an idiot savant concerning weather.

No offense Syos, you know I love ya.
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Post by syosnow94 on Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:40 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
billg315 wrote:
syosnow94 wrote:It’s like the NWS copies my map
I'm going with this theory. Wink

It's the crayons. NWS probably figures him to be an idiot savant concerning weather.

No offense Syos, you know I love ya.

CP. I swear to god I have tears running down my cheeks from laughing. You have some witty sense of humor. I love it Thumbs up savior
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Post by Math23x7 on Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:02 pm

The snowiest season of the 1980s was 1982-83 with 27.2". The 2017-18 seasonal snow total is currently at 27." If we get at least a few tenths of an inch of snow at CPK tomorrow night, 2017-18 would beat any snow season from the 1980s.

The 1981-2010 seasonal snowfall average is 25.8". If no snow were to fall in NYC between now and the end of 2020 (god forbid!), the 1991-2020 seasonal snowfall average would be 28.3"

I know this should be in the statistics thread but given the discussion earlier, it seems appropriate to put it in here.

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Post by billg315 on Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:04 pm

I knew we get a more precise answer from Mike!
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:14 pm

Hoping for that 4:00 am post from Al.

"All the late night and 6Z runs have shifted significantly west.

WE ARE ALL IN THE GAME!!!!"

Hoping for it but not expecting it.
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Post by billg315 on Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:20 pm

Anything is possible. I’m not getting my hopes up for anything as there is too much bust potential here, but I’m sticking with my map for now. I do note both Mt Holly and Upton are still warming of the danger of a 50 mike west shift - 24 hours out, so that shows they still think it’s at least possible.
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