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Post by sroc4 on Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:06 am

If you wish to whine specifically about the pattern for any reason feel free to put yourself in here for a time out.

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Post by Dunnzoo on Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:14 am

Brilliant!

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Post by GreyBeard on Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:26 am

Dunnzoo wrote:Brilliant!


X2. You must have read my mind Scott. I saw the whining was starting up again already in the winter ferocity thread Sad . Hopefully, the crying will be confined in this thread. You might need to put a changing table in here too Wink

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:09 am

I can’t get past the fact that in early November we heard UNIFORMLY that this would be an epic cold snowy winter. Especially December and February while January would be a reload month

Then we got the 4-6” storm in November followed by a month of cold and it was like Ef yeah. Game on. 6 full weeks later we’ve been shut out and the pattern change keeps getting pushed back.
I JUST WISH I COULD NOT READ ABOUT WEATHER OR CARE ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF ALL THE FORECASTS ON HERE THAT HAVE LET ME DOWN. BUT I CANT. ITS LIKE A DRUG. THIS SUCKS SOOOOOOOOOKOOOO BAD

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Post by Radz on Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:14 am

This is great Scott!
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Post by HectorO on Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:43 am

Or you just could have reminded everyone about banter thread. But what's the fun in that when you're "administrator" level Laughing
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Post by Frank_Wx on Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:01 pm

HectorO wrote:Or you just could have reminded everyone about banter thread. But what's the fun in that when you're "administrator" level Laughing

The other banter thread is almost full anyway. This will be the new one

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Post by mwilli5783 on Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:23 pm

best christmas gift....all expenses paid trip to minnapolis 4/14/4/21 my friends pitched on this so we all get to see paisley park on the tour they know 2018 was a very bad year for me so can't wait 4 2019 to begin....

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:11 pm

I quit getting upset about the weather a long time ago. It didn't take much time on the board to realize how incredibly complex the systems are and with that comes an incredible amount of unpredictability. Sure, the lack of snow is disappointing, but it's ultimately beyond our control. Truth be told, I feel a lot worse for all of the guys who put in so many hours studying models and trying to figure out what's going to happen only to have it not pan out the way they originally thought. So to Frank and Sroc and Ray and everybody else who takes the time to put in all of the effort, thanks for the hard work and dedication to keeping us as informed as possible.

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:43 pm

TheAresian wrote:I quit getting upset about the weather a long time ago. It didn't take much time on the board to realize how incredibly complex the systems are and with that comes an incredible amount of unpredictability. Sure, the lack of snow is disappointing, but it's ultimately beyond our control. Truth be told, I feel a lot worse for all of the guys who put in so many hours studying models and trying to figure out what's going to happen only to have it not pan out the way they originally thought. So to Frank and Sroc and Ray and everybody else who takes the time to put in all of the effort, thanks for the hard work and dedication to keeping us as informed as possible.

Hey, this isn't a rant, this belongs in the common sense thread.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:49 pm

I am definitely against nuclear war but this MJO phase 5 thing is really annoying. Is there a way we could drop some type of contained nuclear weapon over the MJO region (not on the ground but in the high atmosphere) to get the damn thing out of phase 5? It may seem drastic to some but it would make many on this board happy if it worked.
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Post by hyde345 on Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:53 pm

December has been disappointing snow wise so I dont blame anybody for bitching. Looking at next 10 days I'm not seeing anything that gets me excited either.
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Post by GreyBeard on Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:11 pm

A lot of bad MoJO going on!

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Post by mikeypizano on Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:29 pm

syosnow94 wrote:I can’t get past the fact that in early November we heard UNIFORMLY that this would be an epic cold snowy winter. Especially December and February while January would be a reload month

Then we got the 4-6” storm in November followed by a month of cold and it was like Ef yeah. Game on. 6 full weeks later we’ve been shut out and the pattern change keeps getting pushed back.
I JUST WISH I COULD NOT READ ABOUT WEATHER OR CARE ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF ALL THE FORECASTS ON HERE THAT HAVE LET ME DOWN. BUT I CANT. ITS LIKE A DRUG. THIS SUCKS SOOOOOOOOOKOOOO BAD

The real issue? You believed them...
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Post by HectorO on Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:46 pm

mikeypizano wrote:
syosnow94 wrote:I can’t get past the fact that in early November we heard UNIFORMLY that this would be an epic cold snowy winter. Especially December and February while January would be a reload month

Then we got the 4-6” storm in November followed by a month of cold and it was like Ef yeah. Game on. 6 full weeks later we’ve been shut out and the pattern change keeps getting pushed back.
I JUST WISH I COULD NOT READ ABOUT WEATHER OR CARE ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF ALL THE FORECASTS ON HERE THAT HAVE LET ME DOWN. BUT I CANT. ITS LIKE A DRUG. THIS SUCKS SOOOOOOOOOKOOOO BAD

The real issue? You believed them...

Calm down everyone, there's a pattern change expected some time between 12/27/18- 02/28/19. It's coming.
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Post by mikeypizano on Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:47 pm

HectorO wrote:
mikeypizano wrote:
syosnow94 wrote:I can’t get past the fact that in early November we heard UNIFORMLY that this would be an epic cold snowy winter. Especially December and February while January would be a reload month

Then we got the 4-6” storm in November followed by a month of cold and it was like Ef yeah. Game on. 6 full weeks later we’ve been shut out and the pattern change keeps getting pushed back.
I JUST WISH I COULD NOT READ ABOUT WEATHER OR CARE ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF ALL THE FORECASTS ON HERE THAT HAVE LET ME DOWN. BUT I CANT. ITS LIKE A DRUG. THIS SUCKS SOOOOOOOOOKOOOO BAD

The real issue? You believed them...

Calm down everyone, there's a pattern change expected some time between 12/27/18- 02/28/19.  It's coming.

Not to be rude Hector but I will believe it when its snowing. I have been screwed too many times to count...
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Post by HectorO on Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:52 pm

mikeypizano wrote:
HectorO wrote:
mikeypizano wrote:
syosnow94 wrote:I can’t get past the fact that in early November we heard UNIFORMLY that this would be an epic cold snowy winter. Especially December and February while January would be a reload month

Then we got the 4-6” storm in November followed by a month of cold and it was like Ef yeah. Game on. 6 full weeks later we’ve been shut out and the pattern change keeps getting pushed back.
I JUST WISH I COULD NOT READ ABOUT WEATHER OR CARE ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF ALL THE FORECASTS ON HERE THAT HAVE LET ME DOWN. BUT I CANT. ITS LIKE A DRUG. THIS SUCKS SOOOOOOOOOKOOOO BAD

The real issue? You believed them...

Calm down everyone, there's a pattern change expected some time between 12/27/18- 02/28/19.  It's coming.

Not to be rude Hector but I will believe it when its snowing. I have been screwed too many times to count...

I was trying to be somewhat sarcastic and funny anyways lol.
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Post by mikeypizano on Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:53 pm

HectorO wrote:
mikeypizano wrote:
HectorO wrote:
mikeypizano wrote:
syosnow94 wrote:I can’t get past the fact that in early November we heard UNIFORMLY that this would be an epic cold snowy winter. Especially December and February while January would be a reload month

Then we got the 4-6” storm in November followed by a month of cold and it was like Ef yeah. Game on. 6 full weeks later we’ve been shut out and the pattern change keeps getting pushed back.
I JUST WISH I COULD NOT READ ABOUT WEATHER OR CARE ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF ALL THE FORECASTS ON HERE THAT HAVE LET ME DOWN. BUT I CANT. ITS LIKE A DRUG. THIS SUCKS SOOOOOOOOOKOOOO BAD

The real issue? You believed them...

Calm down everyone, there's a pattern change expected some time between 12/27/18- 02/28/19.  It's coming.

Not to be rude Hector but I will believe it when its snowing. I have been screwed too many times to count...

I was trying to be somewhat sarcastic and funny anyways lol.

I didn't notice, I was to busy rolling my eyes at "pattern change" Laughing
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Post by HectorO on Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:13 pm

Hahah
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Post by jmanley32 on Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:46 pm

HectorO wrote:Hahah
Sometime between Now till the end of Feb, LOL
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Post by billg315 on Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:44 pm

Oh what a lovely discussion you guys are having. So clever and witty.

Gee, what a great weather forecasting/discussion site this would be if the people who put so much time and effort into the forecasting, discussion and education here simply said, "well since there are no certainties in weather we should just post no forecasts, predictions, speculations, or any such discussions of future weather patterns. We'll just sit here and post what the weather outside is at this moment."

Guess what? You don't need a weather forum for that -- its called your current weather phone app. Instead of logging in here, log in there. Bingo! No more disappointment. No more need to "roll eyes!"

It seems to me, if you don't respect the people on here who post these discussions and forecasts -- and frankly some of the commentary here in the past couple of days (particularly just above this) seems to have moved from just being unhappy with the weather, toward criticism/sarcasm about the forecasts and by extension the forecasters on here -- then why are you here? You can just open the weather app on your phone and see what the weather is. Or look out your window? You really don't need this site if the only reason you are here is to post about how you are "rolling your eyes" at the forecasts that are posted.

This is a forum for people who enjoy the science of weather forecasting to discuss weather trends and patterns, learn about the weather, and to participate in weather forecasting. That means people will post ideas that will sometimes not pan out. Sometimes they will pan out. Sometimes they will need to be adjusted as the pattern/systems progress. That is precisely what makes it an interesting science.

If that type of uncertainty is NOT of interest to you, then truthfully -- and I mean this respectfully -- this is not the place for you. I can save you all a lot of heartache here with this one fact: IF YOU WANT ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY IN WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT ONE, TWO, THREE WEEKS, A WEATHER FORECASTING SITE (ANY weather forecasting site) IS NOT FOR YOU!!!!!! Simply logout, don't come back, and you will be more peaceful and happy.

I find the tenor of the discussion here extremely disrespectful to people like Frank, Scott, Al, Rb, and others who for no compensation, spend a lot of time posting their thoughts and forecasts, and KNOWLEDGE, for us to digest, discuss, and maybe even disagree with -- RESPECTFULLY. It's one thing to come one here and be unhappy with the weather pattern. That is perfectly fine. But if the purpose of your post is to complain that a weather forecast hasn't panned out exactly as expected, I just don't get the point.

I try really hard to not respond to these types of things, but it just amazes me that there are people on a WEATHER site griping about forecasts being adjusted or changed. THIS ENTIRE SCIENCE IS BASED AROUND THINGS CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND EVOLVING. It's called the ATMOSPHERE! If you want certainty go to a website where they do simple math equations all day. Something like this: "I predict if you add two complaints to the two complaints already posted, you'll have four complaints"!!!! See, that's a prediction that is CERTAIN to be true.


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Post by jimv45 on Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:20 pm

Bravo Bravo Billg315. You said all I wanted to say many times on here. I stayed away from the site just to check in once and a while for the reasons you said above. The weather is so hard to nail down weeks out With so many changing parts, the people you spoke of that keep us updated are fantastic at what they do, keep up the good work.

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Post by Wheezer on Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:54 pm

Don't we go through this every winter?

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Post by HectorO on Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:02 pm

billg315 wrote:Oh what a lovely discussion you guys are having. So clever and witty.

Gee, what a great weather forecasting/discussion site this would be if the people who put so much time and effort into the forecasting, discussion and education here simply said, "well since there are no certainties in weather we should just post no forecasts, predictions, speculations, or any such discussions of future weather patterns. We'll just sit here and post what the weather outside is at this moment."

Guess what? You don't need a weather forum for that -- its called your current weather phone app. Instead of logging in here, log in there. Bingo! No more disappointment. No more need to "roll eyes!"

It seems to me, if you don't respect the people on here who post these discussions and forecasts -- and frankly some of the commentary here in the past couple of days (particularly just above this) seems to have moved from just being unhappy with the weather, toward criticism/sarcasm about the forecasts and by extension the forecasters on here -- then why are you here?  You can just open the weather app on your phone and see what the weather is. Or look out your window? You really don't need this site if the only reason you are here is to post about how you are "rolling your eyes" at the forecasts that are posted.

This is a forum for people who enjoy the science of weather forecasting to discuss weather trends and patterns, learn about the weather, and to participate in weather forecasting.  That means people will post ideas that will sometimes not pan out. Sometimes they will pan out. Sometimes they will need to be adjusted as the pattern/systems progress. That is precisely what makes it an interesting science.

If that type of uncertainty is NOT of interest to you, then truthfully -- and I mean this respectfully -- this is not the place for you.  I can save you all a lot of heartache here with this one fact: IF YOU WANT ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY IN WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT ONE, TWO, THREE WEEKS, A WEATHER FORECASTING SITE (ANY weather forecasting site) IS NOT FOR YOU!!!!!! Simply logout, don't come back, and you will be more peaceful and happy.

I find the tenor of the discussion here extremely disrespectful to people like Frank, Scott, Al, Rb, and others who for no compensation, spend a lot of time posting their thoughts and forecasts, and KNOWLEDGE, for us to digest, discuss, and maybe even disagree with -- RESPECTFULLY.  It's one thing to come one here and be unhappy with the weather pattern. That is perfectly fine. But if the purpose of your post is to complain that a weather forecast hasn't panned out exactly as expected, I just don't get the point.

I try really hard to not respond to these types of things, but it just amazes me that there are people on a WEATHER site griping about forecasts being adjusted or changed. THIS ENTIRE SCIENCE IS BASED AROUND THINGS CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND EVOLVING. It's called the ATMOSPHERE! If you want certainty go to a website where they do simple math equations all day. Something like this: "I predict if you add two complaints to the two complaints already posted, you'll have four complaints"!!!! See, that's a prediction that is CERTAIN to be true.



I take it you're from NJ? As a native New Yorker we've always said that people from NJ seem to be a little thin skinned. They can sure dish it but can't take it. Relax, a board was made to make fun of the people (myself included) who are frustrated, so in return the discussion was reversed to take a jab back. If this bothers you then start a "forecasters therapy post" somewhere on here. This is why I was absent from a year on this board. People get too sensitive here.
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Post by HectorO on Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:03 pm

Also, every other forecaster on here has seemed to take the joke except for you. Calm down, take a xanax.
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