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Post by Frank_Wx on Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:49 pm

Mikey doing fantastically in Albany

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Post by essexcountypete on Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:59 pm

Interesting to note how the radar is blowing up off the jersey shore and filing in a bit all the way up to LI.
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Post by docstox12 on Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:59 pm

frank 638 wrote:
mikeypizano wrote:December 1st-2nd Winter Storm Observations  - Page 17 Img_9910

Frosty has passed away, may he melt in peace... Sad
poor frosty ☃ he didn’t even have a chance

A clear case of snowmocide which I hope does not go intro the Cold Case Files!
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Post by Grselig on Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:26 pm

In a dryspot. About 4.5 inches
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Post by amugs on Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:27 pm

Doc you are Hilarious with your humor and wit!

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Post by brownie on Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:29 pm

It has not stopped snowing since it started this morning, although the accumulation rate has really tapered off. Still coming down, pretty big flakes gently falling.

4” on the ground.

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Post by weatherwatchermom on Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:36 pm

Hmm..been busy...so this is it???
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Post by amugs on Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:37 pm

The storm stacked to late. The inflow of moisture got shunted and the vorticity of the LP stay consolidated around it center of circulation. Models had some things correct but the dynamics of some levels were not seen.
We had a good amount of snow but the BL did not cooperate in cooling things down. If it was 27* with this storm then we'd be measuring double to triple the amounts due to stickage and no melt on contact.
Still may get 1-3" of snow to fall and may get better stickage with temps getting to freezing.
Once skies clear tonight we see temps go below freezing in the burbs (upper 20's)and ice up be careful manana morning peeps.
Hey its Dec 2 and we had a snow event, storm if you will.
Better than a Nov 12 or 15th snowstorm, we know how that played out for winter.

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Post by Frank_Wx on Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:40 pm

If you were following along this morning, Scott (scroc) and others mentioned the surface low not looking as tucked into the coast as models suggested. I agreed with them. It seems the low ended east of forecast, and as a result, the deform band that essentially every model was showing ended up off the coast. Its very clear on radar the best band is over water. I have a feeling the low ending up just east caused havoc on today's forcast

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Post by dkodgis on Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:41 pm

Well we got some snow. That is a big plus to start Dec off with.
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Post by Frank_Wx on Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:44 pm

The 500mb ULL is now to our south and working its way east-northeast. Maybe we see flare up again

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Post by billg315 on Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:45 pm

34* and light snow has resumed here. The show is over for the most part but at least nice seeing the light snow fall in front of my Christmas lights.
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Post by weatherwatchermom on Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:47 pm

Well at least we got a little mood flakes...I though I missed something....hope we have lots more to track in the months to come and we get our godzilla!!


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Post by jimv45 on Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:47 pm

Still snowing at a decent rate. Where has RB been? haven't heard from him during this whole storm

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Post by heehaw453 on Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:52 pm

I was never thrilled with the setup to begin with. I'm a simple guy. Give me temperatures in the mid 20's and a nice over running event. When you see the Euro struggle like it did with this at such close range, then you know it's a crap shoot.

Snowing moderately now and sunset has occurred, so maybe I'll squeeze out an inch today. That's a win for December 2.

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Post by sroc4 on Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:03 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:If you were following along this morning, Scott (scroc) and others mentioned the surface low not looking as tucked into the coast as models suggested. I agreed with them. It seems the low ended east of forecast, and as a result, the deform band that essentially every model was showing ended up off the coast. Its very clear on radar the best band is over water. I have a feeling the low ending up just east caused havoc on today's forcast

December 1st-2nd Winter Storm Observations  - Page 17 WUNIDS_map?station=DIX&brand=wui&num=6&delay=15&type=N0R&frame=0&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&lat=0&lon=0&label=you&showstorms=0&map.x=400&map

Ice cubes in your toilets for me guys and gals that those bands expand and rotate in northward as the LP moves NNE. So far I have measured oogatz onthe ground, and have seen oogatz and rain falling from the sky all day.

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Post by sroc4 on Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:05 pm

Im only asking a couple of few hours under those bands

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Post by billg315 on Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:06 pm

Back to moderate to heavy snow here. Looks like a band of heavier stuff formed just north of me and is rotating south. Maybe I’ll get an inch or two out of this yet.
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Post by hyde345 on Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:16 pm

31 with moderate snow. This isn't over at least up here. Precip just to the north and NE set to pivot south.
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Post by billg315 on Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:18 pm

Radar has actually filled in a bit. Not a big change but better than two hours ago.
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Post by TheAresian on Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:18 pm

Unofficially around 10" here. It's a beautiful sight.

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Post by essexcountypete on Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:19 pm

Looks like the Rt 78 corridor on through Central NJ is getting juiced up for a bit more.
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Post by SENJsnowman on Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:20 pm

First decent snowfall of the season down here just started. Starting to stick on cold surfaces....would love to squeeze an inch or even 2 out of the next few hours. Not overly optimistic but hopeful!

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Post by weatherwatchermom on Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:37 pm

snowing here again and winds have picked up a bit...
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Post by sroc4 on Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:40 pm

Latest HRRR still wants to put a few inches into Suffolk County. Well see

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