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Post by skinsfan1177 on Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:06 pm

@Frank_Wx wrote:
@skinsfan1177 wrote:Monday looks amazing bring on Spring

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Post by frank 638 on Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:52 pm

Unbelievable not that I’m complaining is this March or May it’s 70° out it’s not even spring and trees are blossoming well I got to say is bring it on after having the worst winters ever I’m ready baseball beach fishing

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Post by dkodgis on Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:57 pm

I have had peepers since two days ago. I mailed some to CP
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:58 pm

@dkodgis wrote:I have had peepers since two days ago. I mailed some to CP

LOL

Consider them DOA!!
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Post by heehaw453 on Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:46 am

Below are seasonal snowfall totals to date for various stations across the Mid-Atlantic Region and how it compares with records.  Keep in mind most of these stations are well over 100 years of record keeping.  Central Park is ~ 150 years which is the longest I believe. As always please correct anything inaccurate.

Central Park NY 4th lowest snowfall total in a season (4.8").  
Washington D.C. 3rd lowest snowfall total (.6")
Philadelphia PA 2nd lowest snowfall total (.3")
Allentown PA 2nd lowest snowfall total (5.3")
Baltimore MD 3rd lowest snowfall total (1.8")

So in summary this is most likely it for the snowfall, and I'll be audacious and say next year will be better Smile

This was a doozy if there ever was one and kind of makes you think about plan B for location.

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Post by docstox12 on Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:01 pm

@heehaw453 wrote:Below are seasonal snowfall totals to date for various stations across the Mid-Atlantic Region and how it compares with records.  Keep in mind most of these stations are well over 100 years of record keeping.  Central Park is ~ 150 years which is the longest I believe.  As always please correct anything inaccurate.

Central Park NY 4th lowest snowfall total in a season (4.8").  
Washington D.C. 3rd lowest snowfall total (.6")
Philadelphia PA 2nd lowest snowfall total (.3")
Allentown PA 2nd lowest snowfall total (5.3")
Baltimore MD 3rd lowest snowfall total (1.8")

So in summary this is most likely it for the snowfall, and I'll be audacious and say next year will be better Smile

This was a doozy if there ever was one and kind of makes you think about plan B for location.

Just AWFUL.
Up here in the LHV, at least we had a "winter" that started cold in late October through mid December with a nice 11 inch snowfall in early December.So, my winter was really in Fall.
I had noticed the pattern from early November taking storm after storm to our west.That pattern set in concrete and never budged.Kudos to Isotherm who was calling for below normal snowfall in his long range winter post.
This one was a stinker for sure, but November is only 8 months away, and next winter has to outperform this one, a winter that will live in infamy!
Throw in the towel day March 15th.Got it all ready to go sadly,LOL.
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Post by heehaw453 on Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:08 pm

March 10 snow depth or April 15?  

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Post by dkodgis on Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:11 pm

Evidence most foul.
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Post by heehaw453 on Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:09 am

January is normally ALB snowiest month by quite a good margin.  

January 1 - March 10 snowfall 12.2".
All time low from January 1 - March 10 is 6.6" and normal for that date range is ~35".

Seasonal snowfall is running only 8" BN due to prolific December's totals.

January is normally BOX (Bosto#) snowiest month.

January 1 - March 10 snowfall 3.6".
All time low from January 1 - March 10 is 2.1" and normal for that date range is ~27".  That's incredible.

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:14 pm

@heehaw453 wrote:Below are seasonal snowfall totals to date for various stations across the Mid-Atlantic Region and how it compares with records.  Keep in mind most of these stations are well over 100 years of record keeping.  Central Park is ~ 150 years which is the longest I believe.  As always please correct anything inaccurate.

Central Park NY 4th lowest snowfall total in a season (4.8").  
Washington D.C. 3rd lowest snowfall total (.6")
Philadelphia PA 2nd lowest snowfall total (.3")
Allentown PA 2nd lowest snowfall total (5.3")
Baltimore MD 3rd lowest snowfall total (1.8")

So in summary this is most likely it for the snowfall, and I'll be audacious and say next year will be better Smile

This was a doozy if there ever was one and kind of makes you think about plan B for location.

I never consider NY part of the Mid Atlantic, it's just not geographically accurate. Washington & Baltimore definitely, Philly and Allentown borderline.

Geographically it just seems wrong, although I get the text book reference for those that use New England as the northeast and that's that, and somehow squeeze NY state into the Mid Atlantic where geographically and climate wise it clearly doesn't belong..

In my world Southern PA and southern NJ down through W.VA and Virginia is the Mid Atlantic, if your just going by geography you could even include North Carolina in there too.

If you strictly divided the east coast into three areas by latitude without regard to state borders the southeast would start at the southern tip of Florida 25° N, excluding the Keys, and end at the eastern extreme of Maine that touches the Atlantic 45° N. If you want to include the northern extent of Maine make it 47°N.

Dividing into three equal shares using latitude, the southeast would run from south Florida to southern S.Carolina 32.4°N. The Mid Atlantic would run form a little south of Charleston SC to a little north of Atlantic City NJ 39.7° N and the northeast from there to the northern extreme of Maine not touching the Atlantic 47°N.

No criticism intended here, just bored from the prolonged pattern we are mired in and just using the spare time to bring up something other than weather.
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Post by weatherwatchermom on Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:06 am

@docstox12 wrote:
@heehaw453 wrote:Below are seasonal snowfall totals to date for various stations across the Mid-Atlantic Region and how it compares with records.  Keep in mind most of these stations are well over 100 years of record keeping.  Central Park is ~ 150 years which is the longest I believe.  As always please correct anything inaccurate.

Central Park NY 4th lowest snowfall total in a season (4.8").  
Washington D.C. 3rd lowest snowfall total (.6")
Philadelphia PA 2nd lowest snowfall total (.3")
Allentown PA 2nd lowest snowfall total (5.3")
Baltimore MD 3rd lowest snowfall total (1.8")

So in summary this is most likely it for the snowfall, and I'll be audacious and say next year will be better Smile

This was a doozy if there ever was one and kind of makes you think about plan B for location.

Just AWFUL.
Up here in the LHV, at least we had a "winter" that started cold in late October through mid December with a nice 11 inch snowfall in early December.So, my winter was really in Fall.
I had noticed the pattern from early November taking storm after storm to our west.That pattern set in concrete and never budged.Kudos to Isotherm who was calling for below normal snowfall in his long range winter post.
This one was a stinker for sure, but November is only 8 months away, and next winter has to outperform this one, a winter that will live in infamy!
Throw in the towel day March 15th.Got it all ready to go sadly,LOL.

your still holding that towel??? affraid affraid The trees here are ready to pop their leaves...I can not believe it! March 12th and the leaves are almost out....
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Post by dkodgis on Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:46 am

Mom, I noticed that too.  My maples are getting ready to pop leaves. I guess it will be a bumper Maple syrup year if they started early enough.  I have Crocus but nothing else. I notice the lilac bush looks like it wants to pop, too.  It is as if we were a month ahead up here for the Maples. The rest of the trees seem meh.  It is 36 this morning at 7:45.  It is cloudy and getting ready to rain. Looking ahead a bit, temps seem on that upward hill of warmer temps than I would expect. Typically, I would expect some coldness until the second week of April.  Even the barbecue is calling my name.

If we get an April snow, it will bust up the trees.
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Post by Frank_Wx on Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:15 pm

There will be a couple of chilly days next week, but by the following weekend it warms back up with chances for rain. Honestly its been a very sad/gloomy winter. I am looking forward to next season.


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Post by dkodgis on Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:17 am

32 degrees this morning at 7 am

Surprise!

1/4 of snow..
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Post by billg315 on Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:46 am

39* with a steady rain here. Yet another cold rain event. Let me guess, this will be all of late March/April?
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Post by billg315 on Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:34 pm

So Friday will be a late-Spring/early Summer preview with temps in the 70s and even a chance of some Thunderstorms. Interestingly though, the weekend turns sharply cooler and - you heard it here first - don’t be surprised if some on this board wake up to a coating of snow Monday morning. Could go from 70s and thunder to light snow in just a 48/60 hour span. Why not? Everything else has gone wacky.
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Post by essexcountypete on Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:52 pm

@billg315 wrote:So Friday will be a late-Spring/early Summer preview with temps in the 70s and even a chance of some Thunderstorms. Interestingly though, the weekend turns sharply cooler and - you heard it here first - don’t be surprised if some on this board wake up to a coating of snow Monday morning. Could go from 70s and thunder to light snow in just a 48/60 hour span. Why not? Everything else has gone wacky.

Once we get past Monday's cold, do you see any major cold air coming our way? I see lots of rain.
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Post by billg315 on Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:11 pm

Nothing sustained short-term. Still can’t rule out a random small-scale snow event in early April (which can even happen in a mild winter), but I think it would be isolated if it happens. Chilly rain though (i.e. 50s) is always on the table this time of year.
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Post by essexcountypete on Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:54 am

@billg315 wrote:Nothing sustained short-term. Still can’t rule out a random small-scale snow event in early April (which can even happen in a mild winter), but I think it would be isolated if it happens. Chilly rain though (i.e. 50s) is always on the table this time of year.

Much appreciated Bill! Looks like after Monday we sustain temps of 40 or above for a stretch, so I plan on putting in seeds in the ground on Tuesday. I've never tried this early, and it's a risk, but if there's any year to try it this is the year.

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Post by Dunnzoo on Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:58 am

Hi all, hope everyone is doing well! Had a good soaking overnight, .91". Can't wait for tomorrow, temps in the 70's and maybe a nice thunderstorm!

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Post by amugs on Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:05 pm

Keep April 6thish time frame on your calendar plus or minus 2 days for a possible strong storm, could be snow may not.
Enjoy manana cause the NAO looking g to go N and AO looks to go Neutral to slightly Negative which means cooler, dampish weather as the teles are showing these past few days.
2-3 period of this starting this weekend.

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Post by frank 638 on Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:14 pm

@amugs wrote:Keep April 6thish time frame on your calendar plus or minus 2 days for a possible strong storm, could be snow may not.
Enjoy manana cause the NAO looking g to go N and AO looks to go Neutral to slightly Negative which means cooler, dampish weather as the teles are showing these past few days.
2-3 period of this starting this weekend.
i have been Hearing about this on the weather channel they said we have to watch for Monday for a possible snowstorm of course I don’t believe it just bring on the spring already

Frank it is going to be delayed for a bit - just like we have no winter spring is going to be put on hold for a couple of weeks as the NAO and AO look both to go Negative. Euro leading the way with teh snowstorm this time and this WILL BE our biggest area wide snow of this year LOL!! Outside of calendar winter.
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I told ya'll I'd be back if I saw something interesting snow wise. cheers cheers cheers cheers

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Post by amugs on Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:35 pm

IF true we have a rough start to Spring
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Post by hyde345 on Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:37 pm

Surprised nobody is talking about a possible frozen event on Monday, especially N and W. Nearly every model has a low sliding south of us with some cold air in place with CMC and Euro the most aggressive. Again, areas N and W have the better chance of some accumulations. At least there is something to track while there is nothing else to do.
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Post by billg315 on Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:31 am

@hyde345 wrote:Surprised nobody is talking about a possible frozen event on Monday, especially N and W. Nearly every model has a low sliding south of us with some cold air in place with CMC and Euro the most aggressive. Again, areas N and W have the better chance of some accumulations. At least there is something to track while there is nothing else to do.

I actually mentioned it a few posts above a couple days ago. I guess everyone is just too “over” this winter to jump on the bandwagon for this one. Lol. But yeah, as I said I do think people on this board to the north will wake up to some snow Monday morning. And if the track and temp profiles work out just right, (and I like the fact it’s sliding to our south and east) even people in central/north Jersey could see some pre- dawn snow coating colder surfaces before changing to a cold rain. Colder spots even run a risk of a brief frz rain transition according to the latest NAM.
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