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Post by GreyBeard Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:46 am

dkodgis wrote:Mercy me. $5.29 a gallon for heating oil. They should call it eating oil. The price is eating us alive


Thankfully, I got an oil delivery 2 weeks ago. Paid $378 for 100 gallons.(not a bargain by any means) Today,2 weeks later, that same 100 gallons is $520. Gas is over $4.40 a gallon, and groceries, well don't even want to go there. At this stage of the game, you can keep your cold and snow. This weekend we turn the clocks ahead- a sure sign that


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Post by sroc4 Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:36 am

The same way anyone questioning vax mandates(not the use of vaccine), or mask mandates were censored and suppressed instead of allowing open discussion when someone presents a counter argument to a narrative using legit science and scientific method and actual data, climate is going to, and quite honestly has been for years, be the next topic that will be actively and aggressively censored and suppressed. It will be done so in a coordinated effort by the corporate and political elites who are trying to control everything.  Again we aren’t talking about individuals who claim the globe isn’t warming. This is against those who question that the answer to why and how is somehow set in stone.  Don’t let a corporate media outlet or political leader convince you that anyone who questions what they claim as settled science is a right wing nut or conspiracy theorist. The very things that they censor should be the very things that you go independently research yourself and make up you own mind. The idea that a government or group of those in power would act in a way that favored their best interests rather than the masses best interest is not a foreign one in the history of man kind.  I’m pretty sure most of us can agree that given the way the past two years were handled this concept may still ring true in today’s world among the governmental and corporate elites.  Take back your mind, don’t be afraid to sift through the information counter to the narrative, and learn how to critically think again. Stop taking someone else’s word for things.



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Post by docstox12 Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:47 am

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Yes, they will allow ALL opinions...... as long as they agree with them.
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Post by rb924119 Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:51 am

sroc4 wrote:

………(mumbles quietly to himself) “I will not respond. I will not respond. I will mot respond. I will not respond”……

Internal pressure reading steadily rising…….🤯

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Post by sroc4 Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:54 am

rb924119 wrote:
sroc4 wrote:

………(mumbles quietly to himself) “I will not respond. I will not respond. I will mot respond. I will not respond”……

Internal pressure reading steadily rising…….🤯

I edited my original post above.

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Post by rb924119 Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:58 am

sroc4 wrote:
rb924119 wrote:
sroc4 wrote:

………(mumbles quietly to himself) “I will not respond. I will not respond. I will mot respond. I will not respond”……

Internal pressure reading steadily rising…….🤯

I edited my original post above.

And that would change mine how…?

Oh wait…..

🤯🤯🤯🤯

LMAOOOO

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Post by sroc4 Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:07 pm

rb924119 wrote:
sroc4 wrote:
rb924119 wrote:
sroc4 wrote:

………(mumbles quietly to himself) “I will not respond. I will not respond. I will mot respond. I will not respond”……

Internal pressure reading steadily rising…….🤯

I edited my original post above.

And that would change mine how…?

Oh wait…..

🤯🤯🤯🤯

LMAOOOO

Not looking for anyone’s minds to explode here Ray. Lol. Just want people to realize the next chapter in this is beginning. Be prepared for more virtue signaling, censorship, doxing, shaming, and more rifts between friends and families over this particular topic.  Now more than ever, the every day person needs to be able to override the mind control that is media, social media and political elites and objectively look at all things even if it goes against what is incessantly being pushed by the machine.

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Post by rb924119 Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:17 pm

sroc4 wrote:
rb924119 wrote:
sroc4 wrote:
rb924119 wrote:
sroc4 wrote:

………(mumbles quietly to himself) “I will not respond. I will not respond. I will mot respond. I will not respond”……

Internal pressure reading steadily rising…….🤯

I edited my original post above.

And that would change mine how…?

Oh wait…..

🤯🤯🤯🤯

LMAOOOO

Not looking for anyone’s minds to explode here Ray. Lol. Just want people to realize the next chapter in this is beginning. Be prepared for more virtue signaling, censorship, doxing, shaming, and more rifts between friends and families over this particular topic.  Now more than ever, the every day person needs to be able to override the mind control that is media, social media and political elites and objectively look at all things even if it goes against what is incessantly being pushed by the machine.

Oh I know haha it’s just that I said I would never engage in a political discussion on a forum (not that this SHOULD be a political issue, but science is increasingly becoming political). Hence my ever increasing bite on my tongue right now lol all I’ll say is I’m with you 100% (which I think you already knew beforehand anyway), but as somebody who has had this actually happen to me personally several times during my short career, where people, including fellow mets, college colleagues, professors, and friends have resorted to not debating the merits of particular arguments, but to personal attacks and attempts to discredit because they couldn’t win on the merits of their arguments. A majority of the big ones have occurred on other forums. Some of you know. Some of you don’t. Doesn’t matter. But as somebody who has been through this. It’s just incredibly frustrating to not be able to have debates on merits of arguments with increasing frequency. And I’ll stop there. Hence my head exploding lol

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Post by sroc4 Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:30 pm

I hear ya brother. And I am one that knows how you have been treated in some of the other forums. It’s one of a multitude of reasons why you don’t find me in some of those other places anymore as well.

Bottom line is I now say don’t take my word for it. Start looking into it yourself and allow yourself to be objective in your pursuit of knowledge; then make up your own mind.

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Post by SENJsnowman Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:48 pm

Just with respect to gas prices, a lady who lives in Manhattan told me yesterday that this week she drove from Manhattan into NJ to get her gas. I can't imagine I have to explain to a single person on this board why that is so mind blowing, but I'll be happy to if need be...

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Post by docstox12 Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:46 pm

sroc4 wrote:
rb924119 wrote:
sroc4 wrote:
rb924119 wrote:
sroc4 wrote:

………(mumbles quietly to himself) “I will not respond. I will not respond. I will mot respond. I will not respond”……

Internal pressure reading steadily rising…….🤯

I edited my original post above.

And that would change mine how…?

Oh wait…..

🤯🤯🤯🤯

LMAOOOO

Not looking for anyone’s minds to explode here Ray. Lol. Just want people to realize the next chapter in this is beginning. Be prepared for more virtue signaling, censorship, doxing, shaming, and more rifts between friends and families over this particular topic.  Now more than ever, the every day person needs to be able to override the mind control that is media, social media and political elites and objectively look at all things even if it goes against what is incessantly being pushed by the machine.

This mindset is seen on college campuses where any speaker is harassed or threatened with physical violence for giving a viewpoint that is conservative.Art Laffer, an economist who was on Reagan's team, was invited by a conservative group at SUNY in Binghamton, was threatened.Institutions of higher education are supposed to be places where all ideas are discussed so young people can hear different viewpoints.Violent leftists are shutting that down.This is a very dangerous trend in this country where only one viewpoint is allowed.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/art-laffer-binghamton-university-free-speech-first-amendment-protesters
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Post by Dunnzoo Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:57 pm

SENJsnowman wrote:Just with respect to gas prices, a lady who lives in Manhattan told me yesterday that this week she drove from Manhattan into NJ to get her gas. I can't imagine I have to explain to a single person on this board why that is so mind blowing, but I'll be happy to if need be...

What's it going for in NJ? It's $4.70-$5 here in Honolulu, thank goodness I only have to fill 1/2 a tank on the rental car! lol

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Post by amugs Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:46 pm

Dr Roy Spencer was BANNED from twittwr and other social media at forms....when his research is independent and been used for years by so many scientists and even NOAA for a time. Now he's a shaman, why? Proves what Scott and Doc say above against the narrative.

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Post by SENJsnowman Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:44 am

Dunnzoo wrote:
SENJsnowman wrote:Just with respect to gas prices, a lady who lives in Manhattan told me yesterday that this week she drove from Manhattan into NJ to get her gas. I can't imagine I have to explain to a single person on this board why that is so mind blowing, but I'll be happy to if need be...

What's it going for in NJ? It's $4.70-$5 here in Honolulu, thank goodness I only have to fill 1/2 a tank on the rental car! lol

Wow, that’s amazing that gas is still ‘that cheap’ out there. Somehow prices at the Shore came down 10-15 cents to about 4.25.  NYC I hear is 7.50!!  Wait, so millions of New Yorkers have to work an hour to pay for the 2 gallons of gas it will take them to get to work, and then 1 more hour of work to pay for the 2 gallons to get home? Maybe that’s not the case for millions of New Yorkers per se, cuz it’s less of a driving city. But it’s been the case in California for a bit already, and now it just got twice as bad.

I don’t see how this sustains for very long at all.

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Post by docstox12 Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:44 am

SENJsnowman wrote:
Dunnzoo wrote:
SENJsnowman wrote:Just with respect to gas prices, a lady who lives in Manhattan told me yesterday that this week she drove from Manhattan into NJ to get her gas. I can't imagine I have to explain to a single person on this board why that is so mind blowing, but I'll be happy to if need be...

What's it going for in NJ? It's $4.70-$5 here in Honolulu, thank goodness I only have to fill 1/2 a tank on the rental car! lol

Wow, that’s amazing that gas is still ‘that cheap’ out there. Somehow prices at the Shore came down 10-15 cents to about 4.25.  NYC I hear is 7.50!!  Wait, so millions of New Yorkers have to work an hour to pay for the 2 gallons of gas it will take them to get to work, and then 1 more hour of work to pay for the 2 gallons to get home? Maybe that’s not the case for millions of New Yorkers per se, cuz it’s less of a driving city. But it’s been the case in California for a bit already, and now it just got twice as bad.

I don’t see how this sustains for very long at all.

SE, the sacrosanct laws of supply and demand will eventually bring this under control.I make my living as a trader and follow this closely .Oil drilling rig counts are up sharply this month.More supply will be coming to the market within 6 months plus people will be conserving and limiting their driving.Supply UP, demand DOWN= lower prices.Biden can facilitate this by creating sentiment that the speculators in the oil market will adjust to.All Biden has to do is SAY they will re-open Keystone.He doesn't even have to do it, but the sentiment would drop oil prices 10 to 15 bucks a barrel overnight.He can facilitate the leases on Federal Lands for now.They want to shift to alternative sources of clean energy, and I say great, but it has to be done slowly over a 25 to 50 year period.Oil and natural gas are here to stay for a good long while.Any disruption of oil and you have pay dearly at the pump as we see now.
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Post by dkodgis Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:39 am

At these prices, shale gets back into the game and puts some downward pressure as supply increases. Doc. I haven’t figured this out yet for meat, poultry markets. Sounds manipulated to me
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Post by dkodgis Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:40 am

At these prices, shale gets back into the game and puts some downward pressure as supply increases. Doc. I haven’t figured this out yet for meat, poultry markets. Sounds manipulated to me
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Post by SENJsnowman Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:29 am

docstox12 wrote:
SENJsnowman wrote:
Dunnzoo wrote:
SENJsnowman wrote:Just with respect to gas prices, a lady who lives in Manhattan told me yesterday that this week she drove from Manhattan into NJ to get her gas. I can't imagine I have to explain to a single person on this board why that is so mind blowing, but I'll be happy to if need be...

What's it going for in NJ? It's $4.70-$5 here in Honolulu, thank goodness I only have to fill 1/2 a tank on the rental car! lol

Wow, that’s amazing that gas is still ‘that cheap’ out there. Somehow prices at the Shore came down 10-15 cents to about 4.25.  NYC I hear is 7.50!!  Wait, so millions of New Yorkers have to work an hour to pay for the 2 gallons of gas it will take them to get to work, and then 1 more hour of work to pay for the 2 gallons to get home? Maybe that’s not the case for millions of New Yorkers per se, cuz it’s less of a driving city. But it’s been the case in California for a bit already, and now it just got twice as bad.

I don’t see how this sustains for very long at all.

SE, the sacrosanct laws of supply and demand will eventually bring this under control.I make my living as a trader and follow this closely .Oil drilling rig counts are up sharply this month.More supply will be coming to the market within 6 months plus people will be conserving and limiting their driving.Supply UP, demand DOWN= lower prices.Biden can facilitate this by creating sentiment that the speculators in the oil market will adjust to.All Biden has to do is SAY they will re-open Keystone.He doesn't even have to do it, but the sentiment would drop oil prices 10 to 15 bucks a barrel overnight.He can facilitate the leases on Federal Lands for now.They want to shift to alternative sources of clean energy, and I say great, but it has to be done slowly over a 25 to 50 year period.Oil and natural gas are here to stay for a good long while.Any disruption of oil and you have pay dearly at the pump as we see now.

Doc, your words are seeped in wisdom, even by your incredibly high standards. I minored in economics when I was at Florida state just to make my transcript ‘pop’ a little more. Lol. We spent two weeks learning the sacrosanct (I.e., sacred and immutable) laws of supply and demand and how they impact… everything. And then I spent the next 6 classes learning how and why government interferes with them and then what those impacts are. A handful of those interferences are necessary. But aparently human nature is to interfere…

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Post by docstox12 Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:26 am

dkodgis wrote:At these prices, shale gets back into the game and puts some downward pressure as supply increases. Doc. I haven’t figured this out yet for meat, poultry markets. Sounds manipulated to me
Damian, I am thinking outputs on those products were impacted by the virus with factory closures and people being ill.Add in the massive government benefits where people just sat home and didn't work, and there is the supply shortage,As the virus winds down, benefits end people will return to work and output will rise.There probably is some price gouging in there, sadly, thats human nature.But. as output increases prices will drop.


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SENJsnowman wrote:
docstox12 wrote:
SENJsnowman wrote:
Dunnzoo wrote:
SENJsnowman wrote:Just with respect to gas prices, a lady who lives in Manhattan told me yesterday that this week she drove from Manhattan into NJ to get her gas. I can't imagine I have to explain to a single person on this board why that is so mind blowing, but I'll be happy to if need be...

What's it going for in NJ? It's $4.70-$5 here in Honolulu, thank goodness I only have to fill 1/2 a tank on the rental car! lol

Wow, that’s amazing that gas is still ‘that cheap’ out there. Somehow prices at the Shore came down 10-15 cents to about 4.25.  NYC I hear is 7.50!!  Wait, so millions of New Yorkers have to work an hour to pay for the 2 gallons of gas it will take them to get to work, and then 1 more hour of work to pay for the 2 gallons to get home? Maybe that’s not the case for millions of New Yorkers per se, cuz it’s less of a driving city. But it’s been the case in California for a bit already, and now it just got twice as bad.

I don’t see how this sustains for very long at all.

SE, the sacrosanct laws of supply and demand will eventually bring this under control.I make my living as a trader and follow this closely .Oil drilling rig counts are up sharply this month.More supply will be coming to the market within 6 months plus people will be conserving and limiting their driving.Supply UP, demand DOWN= lower prices.Biden can facilitate this by creating sentiment that the speculators in the oil market will adjust to.All Biden has to do is SAY they will re-open Keystone.He doesn't even have to do it, but the sentiment would drop oil prices 10 to 15 bucks a barrel overnight.He can facilitate the leases on Federal Lands for now.They want to shift to alternative sources of clean energy, and I say great, but it has to be done slowly over a 25 to 50 year period.Oil and natural gas are here to stay for a good long while.Any disruption of oil and you have pay dearly at the pump as we see now.

Doc, your words are seeped in wisdom, even by your incredibly high standards. I minored in economics when I was at Florida state just to make my transcript ‘pop’ a little more. Lol. We spent two weeks learning the sacrosanct (I.e., sacred and immutable) laws of supply and demand and how they impact… everything. And then I spent the next 6 classes learning how and why government interferes with them and then what those impacts are. A handful of those interferences are necessary. But aparently human nature is to interfere…

Good for you SE taking that course! You have background now into how the US and World economies work!
Agree with you that some interferences aka controls are necessary to keep things running smooth.However, once those interferences get too onerous, well you get a 1929-1933 or a 2008-2009.But that's left for another day.
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Post by amugs Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:31 pm



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And this from 2017??

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Post by amugs Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:33 pm

Superstorm '93 more info


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Post by docstox12 Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:04 am

amugs wrote:Superstorm '93 more info


Too close to the coast for our area.I was in Mahwah NJ, got 17 inches total, 3 or 4 of which were sleet.Wonderful to shovel.Just west near rb folks area, they had 36 inches.29 years, seems like yesterday for me.LOL. like that old song goes, "enjoy yourself, it's later than you think..."!
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Post by SENJsnowman Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:43 am

Coincidence that I just posted about when I was at Florida State U on the anniversary of the '93 Superstorm. One weekend morning in March '93 we woke up around 10 am (eh, maybe saying we 'came to' was more appropriate for those days) to see snowflakes falling from the Tallahassee sky! A quick check on the local news indicated that while the world was not ending, there were reports of up to a foot of snow 5 hours to our north in Atlanta.

So, being good South Florida folk, we drove to Atlanta! It took 8-9 hours on i-75, there was snow and ice all over the roads and there were dozens and dozens of cars just littered across the Atlanta interstates having spun out or crashed the night before.

We finally got there safely, played football in the snow for 20 minutes (two layers of socks and high top sneakers did NOT keep our feet warm or dry) and then went to the Waffle House for hot chocolate/coffee. Then, about an hour or so after we got there, we drove back to Tally.

I guess an actual photo of a pit stop on the way up survived and was sent to me a few years back. So, that's me on the left with the blue 'winter jacket' on. The red car roof was my stick shift 91 Nissan Sentra which showed the heart of a champion that whole trip!!!  So did Jen Bug to my right, she drove her little car up there too and I heard she was crying hysterically most of the way!  Banter Thread 7.0 - Page 10 1f604  Banter Thread 7.0 - Page 10 1f604  


Another funny memory from this picture is that of course we stopped at BP for gas. Jen's BP charge card was her only means of support for her gas, groceries and beer cuz her mom was so mad after her previous grade report, she basically cut off any other financial support! lol   What a fun time to be young!

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