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Post by sroc4 Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:22 am

Exactly one year ago tomorrow marks the anniversary of the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai eruption.  Since then the scientific community has been pouring over data from across the globe trying to understand the effects it had on our planet and how it might affect the global climate over the next few years at least. As you may know this was the biggest eruption in modern day, but major volcanic eruptions that have effects on the climate both on a local and on a global scale are nothing new to the planet. Here is a cool link from NASA discussing some of the Tonga-Hunga effects way up at the level of the ionosphere.  

 “ ICON launched in 2019 to identify how Earth’s weather interacts with weather from space – a relatively new idea supplanting previous assumptions that only forces from the Sun and space could create weather at the edge of the ionosphere.”  “These results are an exciting look at how events on Earth can affect weather in space, in addition to space weather affecting Earth,” said Jim Spann, space weather lead for NASA’s Heliophysics Division at NASA Headquarters in Washington, D.C. “Understanding space weather holistically will ultimately help us mitigate its effects on society.”

I point out these quotes from the link below for two reasons. First because I am happy to see that there are govt agencies realizing that there may be a connection between the sun and space weather and its link to the weather/climate down here in the troposphere even if some of the people in charge and main stream media outlets still don’t allow that discussion yet. And second only in 2019 has this modern satellite called the ICON been placed in this level of our atmosphere specifically designed to look at the interaction between space and the ground as well as the ground with space. Meaning, we are only beginning to scratch the surface of our understanding of how the charged particles from the sun, ie: solar wind, solar flares, and CME's to name a few, interact with the ionosphere, and how the "weather" within the ionosphere then interacts with the lower levels of our atmosphere.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2022/sun/nasa-mission-finds-tonga-volcanic-eruption-effects-reached-space


If anyone is interested in getting their geek on this morning or this weekend give this a watch. Very interesting presentation of the science of tree ring data, ice ring data, ancient civilizations accounts of major global events and putting it all together to piece together what happened to the climate on a global scale around 535-545 AD.  Spoiler alert. It involves the impacts of Krakatoa, a notoriously violent volcano located along the equator; responsible for creating several of current Indonesian islands.  



I am going to also put this post in the weather education archives because I think regardless of how you feel about man made global warming; Mother Nature for sure still has her pulse on things, and the video really gives a well presented representation of one way in which she does. If anyone, mugs I know you likely have valuable links, has current links as well as future information that comes out discussing the effects of the Hunga-Tonga eruption on our planet please put them in the thread over in the education archive or put them here and I will put them there. Have a nice weekend everyone.

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Post by heehaw453 Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:03 am

Winter 2022/23 an unmitigated...

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Post by sroc4 Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:15 am

heehaw453 wrote:Winter 2022/23 an unmitigated...

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Post by Frank_Wx Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:01 am

Hey Scott, thanks for sharing this awesome piece of information. I’m going to give the video a watch for sure.


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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:14 am

The LR looks terrible and the Strat forecasts are not as promising as they were a couple of days ago. Hope things turn around in the next few days, or we may have to wait until February:(

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:00 pm

As I have stated many times winters is not just done for this season it never existed in the first place.

With that said, I do admire and appreciate our experts here, Frank, Sroc, Heehaw, mugs, that spend numerous hours of their personal time trying to make filet mignon out of turnips. Nice idea, but it’s just not humanly possible.

For those that have had enough of me, I will soon descend into cyber world oblivion until we feebly make another attempt next Wall.

Remember Winter isn’t a couple of meaningless snowfalls. It is suppose to be a season of long stretches of cold, snow covered ground and here’s an old memory, ice on ponds and lakes that you can actually skate and play hockey on.
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Post by jmanley32 Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:22 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:As I have stated many times winters is not just done for this season it never existed in the first place.

With that said, I do admire and appreciate our experts here, Frank, Sroc, Heehaw, mugs, that spend numerous hours of their personal time trying to make filet mignon out of turnips. Nice idea, but it’s just not humanly possible.

For those that have had enough of me, I will soon descend into cyber world oblivion until we feebly make another attempt next Wall.

Remember Winter isn’t a couple of meaningless snowfalls. It is suppose to be a season of long stretches of cold, snow covered ground and here’s an old memory, ice on ponds and lakes that you can actually skate and play hockey on.
CP I know we have had our spits when its been rain/wind etc and I have gotten excited but I am 100% with you now. I cannot believe we have seen 0 snow and looks to break records for CPK. Although I respect scotts optimism for a 15-20 inch year here i find that unlikely, if we make it to Feb with now snow soon after sun angel becomes a issue. So I have completely written off this winter and if you go hope to see you next year for whatever that season may be called lol, loved that post you made. Am in far eastern CT and we had a really cool sleet shower with a gorgeous sunset on the other side, was really odd.
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Post by jmanley32 Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:25 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:The LR looks terrible and the Strat forecasts are not as promising as they were a couple of days ago. Hope things turn around in the next few days, or we may have to wait until February:(
Whats new, shut down the winter part of the forum. JK but seriously not looking good, you said wait till jan, now till Feb, soon will be march, then April, then what may? Not mad at you but this pushing back of hope is just mumbo jumbo, the LR has let us down time and time again this year. GFS has multiple storms coastals ALL RAIN!!
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Post by sroc4 Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:27 pm

35*. Some flurries around

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Post by crippo84 Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:54 pm

Yesterday there was an on and off light snow / flurries in the city for most of the day. Today Giants take care of business. It's cold outside right now. It ain't a normal winter at all (we're talking about flurries right now). But those lemons made a little sip of lemonade this weekend lol.
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Post by amugs Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:20 pm




Again God Giveth to some and taketh from others.

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Post by sroc4 Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:45 am

Weathermom, Any updates on finding the dog?

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Post by weatherwatchermom Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:03 pm

sroc4 wrote:Weathermom,  Any updates on finding the dog?
There was just an update unfortunately the dog must have gotten back in the house they found the dog in the girls' room...this is just too much...so much sadness right now...we just need to pray for the strength of the Dad and sister who survived...and come together as a community to help them heal..😢😢😢😢
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Post by sroc4 Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:26 pm

weatherwatchermom wrote:
sroc4 wrote:Weathermom,  Any updates on finding the dog?
There was just an update unfortunately the dog must have gotten back in the house they found the dog in the girls' room...this is just too much...so much sadness right now...we just need to pray for the strength of the Dad and sister who survived...and come together as a community to help them heal..😢😢😢😢

OMG! That's terrible. Makes me realize a snowless winter really isn't that bad. I cant imagine what that poor family is going through, and what they still have to go through. Thanks for the update Mom.

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Post by docstox12 Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:57 pm

weatherwatchermom wrote:
sroc4 wrote:Weathermom,  Any updates on finding the dog?
There was just an update unfortunately the dog must have gotten back in the house they found the dog in the girls' room...this is just too much...so much sadness right now...we just need to pray for the strength of the Dad and sister who survived...and come together as a community to help them heal..😢😢😢😢

The poor dog wanted to get back in to be with the Mom and little girl.Praying for healing and strength to go on for the Dad and other sibling.
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Post by dkodgis Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:11 pm

There is a GoFundMe page

https://www.gofundme.com/f/scbpo-jackie-montanaros-family?qid=462f817bdd4221441d7fda8850bbc7b8
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Post by brownie Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:10 pm

The story from Hazlet was just the lead story on the 5pm Eyewitness News broadcast. What a terrible tragedy.  My heart goes out to this family. Sad

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Post by Grselig Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:20 pm

heartbreaking. I would trade every winter in exchange for this.
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Post by sroc4 Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:26 pm

dkodgis wrote:There is a GoFundMe page

https://www.gofundme.com/f/scbpo-jackie-montanaros-family?qid=462f817bdd4221441d7fda8850bbc7b8

Thank You Damian!

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:37 pm

It’s painful just to think about it.
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Post by dkodgis Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:01 pm

The picture of the family is heartbreaking. The girls-as cute as sticks of butter. The parents looked so loving. The poodle-lab mix dog, a furry bundle of joy. I don’t know what befell that family but it had to be unexpected, no warning. Half the house burnt through and through and the rest, forget about it. The picture of the house is haunting. Just a terrible thing from what I saw and I didn’t need to know those poor people. All I needed to know I could see from the photos. As a dad this is so hard to take and worse for everyone closer to it.
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Post by weatherwatchermom Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:09 pm

The vigil was tonight..it was very moving and there was a large turn out. The young lady singing is my sons classmate .I just saw on Fox 5 and we saw channel 4,7, and 12 was there as well..may they continue to be surrounded by the love of family, friends, and the community in the difficult days to come.
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Post by Frank_Wx Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:31 pm

Absolutely heartbreaking Sad

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Post by amugs Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:55 pm

The story Mom is horrific and I can't even imagine. Prayers for all.


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Post by amugs Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:55 pm



WOW 3x they have broken thier own record in a matter of days!!!

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Great Map for a perspective on winter:

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:14 pm

Sunday and next Wednesday storms getting warmer on guidance. Well knock me over with a feather. Who would have ever expected.
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