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Post by docstox12 Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:32 am

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dkodgis wrote:and schools just closed. Ray, nice pictures. Looks like the trees are sagging. Could be generator time for you by noon.

What is your elevation there Damian? We got 3 inches here. Doc was eyeballing the 5 to 6 so I'm not sure if that's accurate for him but maybe it is. He is a little higher in elevation than I am. I'm at 600 feet.

Anyway, a nice beginning to the snow season. I'm sure this will all be gone by the weekend, but the promise of a Thanksgiving storm is something to look forward to.

6 inches here measured by me but trained spotter is still asleep so no snow measurements on NWS,LOL.I am 700 feet CP so that could be why there is more here than you and Damian.Don't know his elevation.
32 and still light snow.Slushy mess on the roads.

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Post by heehaw453 Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:37 am

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CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
dkodgis wrote:and schools just closed. Ray, nice pictures. Looks like the trees are sagging. Could be generator time for you by noon.

What is your elevation there Damian? We got 3 inches here. Doc was eyeballing the 5 to 6 so I'm not sure if that's accurate for him but maybe it is. He is a little higher in elevation than I am. I'm at 600 feet.

Anyway, a nice beginning to the snow season. I'm sure this will all be gone by the weekend, but the promise of a Thanksgiving storm is something to look forward to.

6 inches here measured by me but trained spotter is still asleep so no snow measurements on NWS,LOL.I am 700 feet CP so that could be why there is more here than you and Damian.Don't know his elevation.
32 and still light snow.Slushy mess on the roads.

Doc 8.2" measured in Monroe just 160' higher than your locale.

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Post by rb924119 Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:30 am

Can’t really post much. No power, spotty cell reception. Easily a foot, probably more. Nobody was prepared for this. That’s all I heard getting gas in the cans. Locals called for 2-5”, possibly up to 8”. Absolutely ripping, visibility less than a half-mile.

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Post by docstox12 Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:32 am

heehaw453 wrote:
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CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
dkodgis wrote:and schools just closed. Ray, nice pictures. Looks like the trees are sagging. Could be generator time for you by noon.

What is your elevation there Damian? We got 3 inches here. Doc was eyeballing the 5 to 6 so I'm not sure if that's accurate for him but maybe it is. He is a little higher in elevation than I am. I'm at 600 feet.

Anyway, a nice beginning to the snow season. I'm sure this will all be gone by the weekend, but the promise of a Thanksgiving storm is something to look forward to.

6 inches here measured by me but trained spotter is still asleep so no snow measurements on NWS,LOL.I am 700 feet CP so that could be why there is more here than you and Damian.Don't know his elevation.
32 and still light snow.Slushy mess on the roads.

Doc 8.2" measured in Monroe just 160' higher than your locale.

There you go heehaw that elevation is critical with these early and April snows!
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Post by weatherwatchermom Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:46 am

https://newjersey.news12.com/thunderbolt-12-tracking-snow-totals-in-northwestern-new-jersey?fbclid=IwY2xjawGtholleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHQxthKw1HYdOsfVUz3JzWPQR3MGyahe_a_CofpPtQ3ypYjK3-6uWrfFmvQ_aem_JjM1h-SM9dW4WNDnd9I-yw
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:49 am

heehaw453 wrote:
docstox12 wrote:
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
dkodgis wrote:and schools just closed. Ray, nice pictures. Looks like the trees are sagging. Could be generator time for you by noon.

What is your elevation there Damian? We got 3 inches here. Doc was eyeballing the 5 to 6 so I'm not sure if that's accurate for him but maybe it is. He is a little higher in elevation than I am. I'm at 600 feet.

Anyway, a nice beginning to the snow season. I'm sure this will all be gone by the weekend, but the promise of a Thanksgiving storm is something to look forward to.

6 inches here measured by me but trained spotter is still asleep so no snow measurements on NWS,LOL.I am 700 feet CP so that could be why there is more here than you and Damian.Don't know his elevation.
32 and still light snow.Slushy mess on the roads.

Doc 8.2" measured in Monroe just 160' higher than your locale.

There you go, talk about elevation dependent. So within 5 miles of where I'm located where I am at 600 feet elevation I got 3 inches, Doc 5 miles away at 700 feet 6 inches and within the same 5 mile radius 8.2 inches at 260 feet higher than me, if I go 5 miles north into Cornwall grass at 200 feet elevation maybe an inch there if that.
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Post by kaos00723 Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:05 am

1100+ feet in Upper Greenwood Lake, NJ. We got hammered up here.

Easily 12+ inches and counting. Heavy wet snow.

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Post by hyde345 Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:07 am

Elevation was everything with this storm. Congrats to those that got some real snow. Got a coating here at 200' in Western Dutchess county. Good to see some flakes. Right now 33.6 with light snow.
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Post by rb924119 Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:34 am

I just measured 13”, still snowing. Nobody knew this was coming. That’s all Dad and I heard at the gas station filling cans. Local networks were calling for 2-5, possibly up to 8”. It’s a mess lol

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Post by docstox12 Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:01 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
heehaw453 wrote:
docstox12 wrote:
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
dkodgis wrote:and schools just closed. Ray, nice pictures. Looks like the trees are sagging. Could be generator time for you by noon.

What is your elevation there Damian? We got 3 inches here. Doc was eyeballing the 5 to 6 so I'm not sure if that's accurate for him but maybe it is. He is a little higher in elevation than I am. I'm at 600 feet.

Anyway, a nice beginning to the snow season. I'm sure this will all be gone by the weekend, but the promise of a Thanksgiving storm is something to look forward to.

6 inches here measured by me but trained spotter is still asleep so no snow measurements on NWS,LOL.I am 700 feet CP so that could be why there is more here than you and Damian.Don't know his elevation.
32 and still light snow.Slushy mess on the roads.

Doc 8.2" measured in Monroe just 160' higher than your locale.

There you go, talk about elevation dependent. So within 5 miles of where I'm located where I am at 600 feet elevation I got 3 inches, Doc 5 miles away at 700 feet 6 inches and within the same 5 mile radius 8.2 inches at 260 feet higher than me, if I go 5 miles north into Cornwall grass at 200 feet elevation maybe an inch there if that.

CP, my old house in Mahwah 350 feet probably just got a c-1.
Years ago, the Ramapo Mountains near where I lived, probably up over 700 feet once got 9 inches while I got nothing by my old home.Driving back from my office in Ramsey to Mahwah Town, I would see the snow covered mountain tops and just LOL.

33 degrees, steady light to moderate snow all day so far.
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Post by jmanley32 Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:10 pm

Rb you made a comment you knew what it felt like to be me well here we go again lol. I can't make this up. It was snowing literally 1 mile birds eye at my daughters friend house and accumulated a bit but nothing but rain here. If that isn't a kick to the head I dunno what is. I saw a number of cars with a inch or so on them, guessing they must have been coming from well north of here. Also noted on that posted map earlier that just north of White Plains got 2 inches. There's no elevation there so it did not just depend on elevation I guess. Congrats to those that got dumped on the pics made me feel like we were in Feb. currently 39 here and was light rain last I was outside. Oh also to note Accuwx is clearly LYING because all night it said wintry mix will continue, umm there was NO wintry mix.
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Post by heehaw453 Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:57 pm

Pretty much light sometimes moderate snow all day. 34.5/33.2 either need 30 dBZ or a few degrees colder surface. If it continues a few more hrs maybe get my coating as sun sets...

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:45 pm

High Point NJ at 1,800 feet seems to win the prize so far at 20 inches even.

Mine goes into the books at 3.2 inches. We average about 2.5 inches for the month of November so it's nice to be above average for the first time in several years.
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Post by amugs Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:49 pm


Still a ways to go for many on our board with wet mangled flakes coming back around and in for even those.

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Post by brownie Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:01 pm

It’s been a snow/rain mix here all day today, but accumulation hasn’t progressed since this morning.  There’s maybe a slushy quarter inch on the grass and on the deck, and the cars on the street have some slushy accumulation.

I’m at about 710’ here, and a mile away at 550’ there is nothing at all on the ground.

Currently 34°F, which is where it was when I posted early this morning.

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Post by kalleg Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:07 pm

New Hope/Solebury:

Light Snow Fog/Mist
34°F
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Post by rb924119 Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:36 pm

Continuous snow now for 25 hours of varying intensity. Looks like I’m about to get pinwheeled again for the next several hours. I really wish the ground was frozen so it could stick around, but hey, this beggar ain’t choosing aha I’m going to say that my max snowfall depth of 13” is the observed total for now, as the decreased intensity the last couple hours definitely allowed compaction to take over. So unless I get another 2-3” from this latest round, it’ll be a “maintenance snow”. That said, if I was using an official whiteboard and proper NWS procedure, I have no doubt my “total snowfall” would be up around 16”. But I’m not going to try and prove that counterfactual, since I didn’t follow NWS procedure haha I’ll have a few more pictures and a brief post-mortem analysis tomorrow once the snow actually stops flying.

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Post by HectorO Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:42 pm

Not sure if anybody posted it yet but there's reports coming out of High Point State Park in Sussex County of them getting 20 in of snow!
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Post by SENJsnowman Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:56 pm

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Could it be?! Parts of the Jersey Shore get to wet our beak just a bit? It's like when the family dog gets the left overs after everyone has eaten, or when parents are having company over and the kids are finally allowed to come out of their rooms for the desert that was served. lol When your name finally gets called, all of a sudden, it's all good!!!

This forecast is for Long Branch. The temp is expected to stay in the upper 30's and we are all the way east in northern Monmouth County, so I won't be too surprised if it doesn't materialize...but I'll be watching, that's for sure!

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Post by rb924119 Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:26 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:High Point NJ at 1,800 feet seems to win the prize so far at 20 inches even.

Mine goes into the books at 3.2 inches. We average about 2.5 inches for the month of November so it's nice to be above average for the first time in several years.

I find it hard to believe that High Point is 1,800 feet in elevation. I looked it up, but I drive that way ALL THE TIME, and coming from the Pennsylvania side you’re looking down at it. Secondly, I-84 crosses that same ridge line and there’s a sign right there that says “Elevation 1,172 feet”. You can clearly see the High Point Monument when on I-84 eastbound, and there’s no way where I-84 crosses that ridge is 700 feet lower than where that monument is. It’s pretty much straight across.

I also have a feeling that measurement is based on the NWS method and not actual depth. If that’s the case, then I can believe it based on what I observed here. Just my $.02.

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:29 pm

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CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:High Point NJ at 1,800 feet seems to win the prize so far at 20 inches even.

Mine goes into the books at 3.2 inches. We average about 2.5 inches for the month of November so it's nice to be above average for the first time in several years.

I find it hard to believe that High Point is 1,800 feet in elevation. I looked it up, but I drive that way ALL THE TIME, and coming from the Pennsylvania side you’re looking down at it. Secondly, I-84 crosses that same ridge line and there’s a sign right there that says “Elevation 1,172 feet”. You can clearly see the High Point Monument when on I-84 eastbound, and there’s no way where I-84 crosses that ridge is 700 feet lower than where that monument is. It’s pretty much straight across.

I also have a feeling that measurement is based on the NWS method and not actual depth. If that’s the case, then I can believe it based on what I observed here. Just my $.02.

Well the one thing I am sure about is that High Point is at 1,800 feet. I've been there several times and taken readings with a couple of different altitude apps and it was 1,810 feet give or take a few feet every time.

The 20 inch measurement? Who knows. They haven't had accurate measurements in Central Park for the better part of 150 years so I'm sure they're not the only place.
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Post by docstox12 Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:53 pm

32 degrees, light snow continues.May pick up an additional inch here.
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Post by docstox12 Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:02 pm

rb here is an article verifying CP's altitude measure of High Point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Point_(New_Jersey)
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Post by SENJsnowman Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:10 pm

I can also verify that the last second hope for snowflakes at the Jersey Shore did not verify. But I am happy to get the rain and that the other board members enjoyed their first snowfall of the season!

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Post by heehaw453 Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:53 am

More snow reports. I did pick up a coating ~.2" on grass/deck/bushes so it must be counted. Did not stick to pavement. I did go venture out to more elevated areas ~700' and I would say over an inch in those areas.

I underestimated the effect on dBZ for the close off of mid-levels. It really allowed for accs even at the lower elevations for our NW folks plus being night helped. Thought c-2" < 1000' feet with this.  

Rb excellent job with this storm!

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Post by dkodgis Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:07 am

That’s about what I got. What came down kept trying to melt or slop away. C=2 inches. Blacktop, road=nada. On cars, a bit. Go halfzies on the grass
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Post by 1190ftalt Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:43 pm

Well finished up at about 10 inches, very hard to keep track, didn’t stop snowing till midnight last night!
I live about 25 minutes from High point monument, took a ride up there this morning, at the parking lot which is at 1650 feet altitude they have every bit of 20 inches, it was 35 degrees there at 9:00 am this morning. Probably 100 people snow shoeing and cross country skiing. My buddy works for the park and told me Friday they got a lot of snow. I didn’t walk up to the tower but the tower is about 200 feet higher than the parking lot so I would not be surprised if there is 24 inches up at the monument. 10 minutes away from the park and there is only 6 inches, it was a elevation storm like I’ve never seen. I was actually a LITTLE skeptical about there totals, I can confirm, they actually may be a little Low because I picked up another 4 yesterday and evening,
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