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Post by heehaw453 Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:02 am

.2" at midnight. The road to 35" this season ostensibly will be done this way...

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Post by 1190ftalt Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:23 am

One inch fresh powder at 6 in the AM, 31 degrees , no wind , shoveling driveway and town trucks just came thru to put down salt,
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Post by kalleg Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:26 am

Rain, .09 in New Hope overnight...

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SQUALL WARNINGS!!

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Post by aiannone Thu Dec 05, 2024 11:21 am

1.0" here in st. james according to NWS reports. nice surprise!

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Post by billg315 Thu Dec 05, 2024 11:38 am

On the leading edge of this squall line. I can report snow is starting to come down pretty heavy.
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Post by heehaw453 Thu Dec 05, 2024 11:41 am

So this is bona fide snow squall. Will have a few pics. Visibility under quarter winds kicked up to 35 mph so it is/was blizzard conditions.

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Post by billg315 Thu Dec 05, 2024 11:44 am

Heavy snow squall in progress in Central NJ. Photos may not fully do justice to intensity but it’s coming down good:
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Post by heehaw453 Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:05 pm

Dropped a .5" in 20 mins or so. Not too bad. Dropped surface temps 4 degrees to 31 from 35.

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Post by docstox12 Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:07 pm

Getting squall warnings on my phone here in Monroe NY LHV.Clouds thickening.
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Post by billg315 Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:24 pm

Wind definitely picking up behind that squall line. Sun is back out, but it's getting blustery.
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Last s about 5 min temps dropped from 39 to 35 and winds picking up now bright sun out..but I will take what I can get this yr!


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Post by amugs Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:45 pm

WOW!!

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Post by amugs Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:47 pm

SQUALL is here WOOO HOOO!!

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Post by docstox12 Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:47 pm

Mugs, had that heavy squall here starting at 10:27.Heavy, wind blown snow, blizzard conditions for 5 minutes.Sun out now.Probably added .25 inch to the 1 inch from last night.
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Post by amugs Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:55 pm

Weak a 5 minutes burst with some stickage to colder surfaces.
Something about the weather and Dec 5th snow

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Post by hyde345 Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:41 pm

Picked up a total of 1.5 inches with the clipper. I'll take it.
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Post by weatherwatchermom Thu Dec 05, 2024 6:53 pm

Windy highest gust 37 during our snow squall this morning. and cold 🥶 today 35 and currently winds gusting in the 20's
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Post by billg315 Thu Dec 05, 2024 8:20 pm

32* with a 17 mph wind. Wind Chill 13*. It's cold.
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Post by docstox12 Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:02 am

26 degrees, windy, light flurries.
Wind was howling all night, woke me up a few times.
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Post by weatherwatchermom Fri Dec 06, 2024 2:04 pm

33 and gusty day.. largest gust this morning was 33mph. Very chilly morning 🥶
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Post by heehaw453 Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:48 am

Central Park is running -8 BN temps with T of snow. I think this month is heading for at least -3 with a good possibility there will be some measurable snow there this December. Past several have been without measurable snow.

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Post by heehaw453 Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:25 pm

Much better snow depth and breadth now.  It doesn't feel like a warm winter is about to unfold. Just the PNA/EPO/WPO/NAM so far don't give me that feeling. Also muted MJO and ENSO effects.

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Post by docstox12 Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:35 am

27 degrees, mostly cloudy, calm wind with frost.
Looks like a real soaker coming up .Pulling for rb's scenario but time is running out.NWS looking at a couple inches of rain here all told.I'll welcome that to put the wildfire threat to bed finally.
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Post by phil155 Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:26 am

I am with you doc, I am hoping rb is right and we get a nice surprise here

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Post by sroc4 Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:44 am

What people dont realize I think is that Rays idea is actually much closer to reality than they think.  "There's no way"  "The NWS has 50's and rain"  Yes but only minor atmospheric shifts at 500mb and it would be very different for our area.  You can see there is literally a 20*f diff at the surface over a mere 75-100miles.  Its even a steeper contrast in the mid levels.  at 850mb its a 50*f difference.

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The biggest reason this likely isnt to work out it the simple fact that this trough axis is simply too far west.  Im showing the NAM but GFS, CMC, and Euro all seem to be honing in on this fact as well.  Bottom line if you took this exact image and simply took the trough, which the axis is diagonal from NW to SE through the Ohio valley, and shifted the entire pattern 100-150 miles due east(Which is a whisker for a longwave trough like this), you likely get into the favorable dynamics.  Because the axis is too far west while it tilts neg and begins to lift out its too late and the moisture turns off.  Again this really isnt that far off from Rays idea coming to fruition.  Im back down to 10%/90% for anything meaningful for most of us.  

 
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Post by heehaw453 Mon Dec 09, 2024 6:50 pm

.29" needed rain in the bucket. Low 40's all day.

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