November 2014 Obs and Discussion

32, 66%, 30.35 R. Cloudy skies , no wind.Not going to drop tonight with this cloud cover.

NWS mentions snow/rain Tues-Weds and again next weekend.

[1045="docstox12"]32, 66%, 30.35 R. Cloudy skies , no wind.Not going to drop tonight with this cloud cover.

NWS mentions snow/rain Tues-Weds and again next weekend.[/quote]   yeah doc I just seen that. and the one for Saturday looks like we may have a coastal low to deal with. and one thing that would be different this week than previous storms is we will have strong high pressure to our North 1045mb

Out in Mt Bethel, Eastern PA and for our annual Xmas tree cutting. It was so beautiful, scenic with 7-8" of snow on the ground and snow covered trees  perfect setting for Xmas and oh what a deal -  6-12' Douglas fur trees $35!!!!

Anyway only 31* out there today brrrrrrrr!

Real nice, Mugsy, THAT got you into the Christmas Spirit no doubt! A rare event for November around these parts.

35.7, 80%, 30.21 F

8:35 AM-----Snowpack attack up here has begun.....37.9, 79%, 30.22 F

Even with a 52* forecast high today I see my temperature departure below average by about 2.7* for my area and others north and west of here 3-4* below normal temps!

A NOVEMBER TO REMEMBER !!

Although we have had several pre Thanksgiving snowstorms in recent years, in one case 2011 a pre Halloween snowstorm, the last actual white Thanksgiving day, with snow on the ground although it didn't actually snow on Thanksgiving day, I remember was 1995 which of course was the prelude to the epic winter of 95-96.

We could only dream it leads to the same results again this year. For those that remember, our snowpack that year in the HV was continuous from Late November to early April. In areas to the south I don't think there were that many days in that time period where the ground was barren.

The last snowstorm I remember occurring on Thanksgiving day was 1989. That storm blanketed everyone including NYC and east but led to a crappy winter.

Yep, pretty much from late November through early April in Mahwah that 95-'96 epic year.

We have 50-50 results with white Thanksgiving's-----an epic year like 95-96 occured and a lousy year 89-90.Maybe this year will split the difference.We'll see very quickly because as you point out, CP, as December goes so goes the winter, in your excellent statistical reviews.

Near 50 degrees here. Overcast. A day to watch movies and eat pasta

Watching an overrunning event possibility mid-week. Could bring snow north of NYC Metro. Overrunning is typical in a progressive flow. With cold air in place and a High Pressure to the north, storms ride into the cold air.

Frank_Wx wrote:Watching an overrunning event possibility mid-week. Could bring snow north of NYC Metro. Overrunning is typical in a progressive flow. With cold air in place and a High Pressure to the north, storms ride into the cold air.

I like the sound of that. Our snowcover will need a good refresh by then. Will be watching closely.

It still hasn't reached 40 here. 39.6 right now.

The snowcover and cloud cover are keeping temperatures suppressed.

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

Frank_Wx wrote:Watching an overrunning event possibility mid-week. Could bring snow north of NYC Metro. Overrunning is typical in a progressive flow. With cold air in place and a High Pressure to the north, storms ride into the cold air.

I like the sound of that. Our snowcover will need a good refresh by then. Will be watching closely.

Hmmmmmm, that would be 3 for 3 in the HV ,CP, doing better than S and E.Wonder if that is a trend setting up? Way too soon, but just an observation here.

43.1, 70%, 30.15 F. NWS mentions possible light rain after 3 here and sprinkles tonight.

docstox12 wrote:

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

Frank_Wx wrote:Watching an overrunning event possibility mid-week. Could bring snow north of NYC Metro. Overrunning is typical in a progressive flow. With cold air in place and a High Pressure to the north, storms ride into the cold air.

I like the sound of that. Our snowcover will need a good refresh by then. Will be watching closely.

Hmmmmmm, that would be 3 for 3 in the HV ,CP, doing better than S and E.Wonder if that is a trend setting up? Way too soon, but just an observation here.

43.1, 70%, 30.15 F. NWS mentions possible light rain after 3 here and sprinkles tonight.

Even if a S and E bias develops we usually still do ok. Look at last year, 71 inches and we missed the heavy precip on several storms but still did alright with better ratios and some that were just rain in areas S and E.

And you my good fellow CP want to over throw me ???

amugs wrote:And you my good fellow CP want to over throw me ???

My good King, if you haven't done so already please read last nights post on the OTI thread it states where I stand very clearly.

If you produce I will fight to the death to defend your throne if not well, just think back to the riots on YOOOOOOTI. It won't be pretty.

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

docstox12 wrote:

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

Frank_Wx wrote:Watching an overrunning event possibility mid-week. Could bring snow north of NYC Metro. Overrunning is typical in a progressive flow. With cold air in place and a High Pressure to the north, storms ride into the cold air.

I like the sound of that. Our snowcover will need a good refresh by then. Will be watching closely.

Hmmmmmm, that would be 3 for 3 in the HV ,CP, doing better than S and E.Wonder if that is a trend setting up? Way too soon, but just an observation here.

43.1, 70%, 30.15 F. NWS mentions possible light rain after 3 here and sprinkles tonight.

Even if a S and E bias develops we usually still do ok. Look at last year, 71 inches and we missed the heavy precip on several storms but still did alright with better ratios and some that were just rain in areas S and E.

You've got that right because I was S of you in Mahwah and only got 62.I'm here very recently and already see the HV effect with the two November snows we have just had.Better to be 50 miles away from the radiator than 25,LOL!

Temp dropped to 40.2, 30.14 F, 72%. Thick cloud cover, no wind again today.

Precip always come in earlier than modeled with overrunning events. Have to watch for that.

Euro is nice for inland areas. Dicey on the coast but I do think the coast sees non accumulating snow out of this.

I have a snow map made for Tuesday's storm but I will release it in the morning (well, it's 2am now so whenever I wake up, ha).

41.5, 86%, 30.15 F

Looks like maybe an inch of slop up here Tues-Weds and same for the weekend with these overriding events.Temps on a roller coaster this week.

Final Monthly Stats (Temp departures + Snow):

NYC: -2.4 (.2" of snow)