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Post by Guest Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:51 am

@oldtimer wrote:Doc   The almost sure thing for me is that beautiful Nor'easter at the 40/70 BM  Everything else is a crap shoot  This year with all the cold air to work with we have been so close and then again so far from real big ones  Just about every event this WAA thing is in there   Very frustrating  Sad

NO STATEMENT I"VE EVER READ ON THIS FORUM SUMS UP MY FEELINGS BETTER THAN THIS ONE BY oldtimer ! Sad Sad Sad

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Post by RJB8525 Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:35 am

i follow weather but in recent years i've never seen so many built up storms fizzle out for our immediate tri state area. we just follow and get excited by models but for TV mets and NWS to hop and jump all over systems i've never seen to the point where they are actually explaining the model systems to save face
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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:36 am

This was the best storm ever

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:38 am

@Frank_Wx wrote:This was the best storm ever

Very Happy Excellent lol!
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Post by Guest Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:59 am

@RJB8525 wrote:i follow weather but in recent years i've never seen so many built up storms fizzle out for our immediate tri state area. we just follow and get excited by models but for TV mets and NWS to hop and jump all over systems i've never seen to the point where they are actually explaining the model systems to save face

It's become like CNN and other news outlets. Everyone is rushing to be first instead of waiting to be right. I agree with your above statement wholeheartedly.

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Post by Math23x7 Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:17 am

Paul Kocin did this at a weather conference in 2009 but I will give you an update.

I just looked up some Boston and NYC seasonal snow totals. While NYC's goes back to 1869, Boston's goes back to 1891 so I took the 123 complete seasons from 1891-92 to 2013-14. 18 of those seasons saw NYC getting more snow than Boston and one season saw both getting the same amount (1957-58 they both got 44.7"). The rest of them all gave Boston more snow than NYC. So 104 Boston seasons divided by 123 overall seasons is equal to 84.6% of snow seasons.

The biggest deviation between the two locations favoring Boston was the 1992-93 season where Boston got 83.9" and CPK got 24.5" a 59.4" difference. The biggest deviation between the two locations favoring NYC was 2009-10 when NYC got 51.4" and Boston got 35.7", a 15.7" difference. Of course I remember the February 25th-27th, 2010 snow event where NYC got 20.9" of snow and Boston saw 0.1" of snow and mainly rain. And to think if that February 5th-6th, 2010 snowstorm (which BLASTED DC to Philly) had come just a tad north, that difference would have been much greater.

Of course, this does not include the 2014-15 season but I would not be surprised if when all is said and done it surpassed the 59.4" deviation from 1992-93...

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:20 am

And then you have seasons like last year when Boston had 58.9 and NYC saw 57.4. A win for Boston but who would know the difference.

When you factor in who measures the snow here I'll bet the difference is less.
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Post by docstox12 Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:12 pm

@Math23x7 wrote:Paul Kocin did this at a weather conference in 2009 but I will give you an update.

I just looked up some Boston and NYC seasonal snow totals.  While NYC's goes back to 1869, Boston's goes back to 1891 so I took the 123 complete seasons from 1891-92 to 2013-14.  18 of those seasons saw NYC getting more snow than Boston and one season saw both getting the same amount (1957-58 they both got 44.7").  The rest of them all gave Boston more snow than NYC.  So 104 Boston seasons divided by 123 overall seasons is equal to 84.6% of snow seasons.  

The biggest deviation between the two locations favoring Boston was the 1992-93 season where Boston got 83.9" and CPK got 24.5" a 59.4" difference.  The biggest deviation between the two locations favoring NYC was 2009-10 when NYC got 51.4" and Boston got 35.7", a 15.7" difference.  Of course I remember the February 25th-27th, 2010 snow event where NYC got 20.9" of snow and Boston saw 0.1" of snow and mainly rain.  And to think if that February 5th-6th, 2010 snowstorm (which BLASTED DC to Philly) had come just a tad north, that difference would have been much greater.  

Of course, this does not include the 2014-15 season but I would not be surprised if when all is said and done it surpassed the 59.4" deviation from 1992-93...

Wow, Math, great info on that 92-93 season.Boston blew us out of the ballpark on that one.

You might be right about the 2014-2015 season beating that deviation.
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Post by Grselig Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:50 pm

Boston. The only good things about Boston
1. The Boston Tea Party
2. 1986 Mets and Bill Buckner
3. 2007 Giants Superbowl Victory
4. 2011 Giants Superbowl Victory

I really can't think of anything else.
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Post by elkiehound Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:55 pm

Looking at the long range forum, I think we should restrict the word "epic" until 24 hours before event.
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Post by sroc4 Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:13 pm

Saw this on FB...pretty much spot on lol:

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Post by Taffy Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:16 pm

LOL, that maps great and spot on.
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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:20 pm

Hilarious Doc. People in Boston will soon have to worry about roof collapses, let alone their decks

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Post by sroc4 Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:33 pm

@Frank_Wx wrote:Hilarious Doc. People in Boston will soon have to worry about roof collapses, let alone their decks

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Holy Crap!

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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:37 pm

19.7" in Boston so far from this storm. They should get to 24" before it's done

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Post by docstox12 Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:38 pm

@sroc4 wrote:
@Frank_Wx wrote:Hilarious Doc. People in Boston will soon have to worry about roof collapses, let alone their decks

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Holy Crap!

LOL, that should have been shoveled off.Chances are it was attached to the house with nails or deck screw.I put in 8 inch 1/2 inch diameter lag bolts every three feet on my deck into the header of the house.I still shovel it when more than a foot accumulates.

Big buck replacement there.

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