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Post by essexcountypete Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:15 pm

@Quietace wrote:
syosnow94 wrote:2 things.  

1.  I never said "bust"  I said the radar doesn't look good so I'm not confident about accumulating snows right now.

2. Quietace has to be the most contrarian/negative person on this board when it comes to a snow forecast rabbit rabbit
Ouch...haha, fair statement though..
Anyway 37 and light snow

Ryan, I actually love that you are who you are here. It's easy sometimes to take the turn down weenie road as we often do, and you help us get back on the straight and narrow of reality.

I say this with all positivity...every Hundred Acre Wood needs it's Eeyore.
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Post by Frank_Wx Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:17 pm

@rb924119 wrote:I'm holding the fort down.....been snowing lightly and steadily since 11am. Grand total of 0.2" ahahahaha going for the record books, I see :p

Best VV's are south of you. Sucks to be you.

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Post by Frank_Wx Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:18 pm

State College is already at 4 inches of snow and should hit 5 when all is done.

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Post by sroc4 Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:20 pm

@Frank_Wx wrote:
@rb924119 wrote:I'm holding the fort down.....been snowing lightly and steadily since 11am. Grand total of 0.2" ahahahaha going for the record books, I see :p

Best VV's are south of you. Sucks to be you.

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Post by rb924119 Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:22 pm

@Frank_Wx wrote:
@rb924119 wrote:I'm holding the fort down.....been snowing lightly and steadily since 11am. Grand total of 0.2" ahahahaha going for the record books, I see :p

Best VV's are south of you. Sucks to be you.

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AHAHAHAHAHA literally lol'ing at this lmao thanks for the comedic relief, Frank. In all seriousness, I knew they would be. I just like seeing what smart-a$$ comments I can get out of people ahahaha

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Post by Frank_Wx Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:22 pm

@sroc4 wrote:
@Frank_Wx wrote:
@rb924119 wrote:I'm holding the fort down.....been snowing lightly and steadily since 11am. Grand total of 0.2" ahahahaha going for the record books, I see :p

Best VV's are south of you. Sucks to be you.

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What site is that Frank...gimme gimme

Not sure, stole it from someone on another forum

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Post by rb924119 Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:29 pm

@sroc4 wrote:
@rb924119 wrote:
@sroc4 wrote:850 closed off.  Notice where the heaviest precip is....central PA.

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There's also a strong orographical component to that, and 850 will likely open back up as it continues east. Have to see how it holds together after crossing the Allegheny chain.....

Interesting.  So the elevation is what is closing off 850? and the enhanced precip is from the upslope right?  As that energy passes over the higher elevations and approaches the coatal plain the opposite in therory would take place due to down slope ya?

Not exactly, but yes at the same time lol. 850 closed off on its own, but the precipitation itself is being strongly enhanced by the upslope from the east-southeasterly-->southerly low-level flow ascending the southwest-northeast oriented mountains. In order for downslope here, there would need to be more of a west to northwest lower-level flow across the terrain, so that's not what would really decrease the precipitation. What **may** do that, though, is because the mountains are forcing increased ascent, as that same air moves east it will have a lower moisture content to it, since the mountains "wrung it out", and so could leave less available moisture for the remaining forcing to work with. That said, the evolution of the exact forcings will still play a very large role (e.g. if 850 can remain closed off, among others). Make sense?

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Post by rb924119 Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:32 pm

In fact, you can start to see the exact orientation of the mountain ranges in the very last frame of this radar......see the nearly straight and stationary lines of pink in central PA? The radar is actually picking up on the low-level warmth in the valleys leading to a mix with snow at the peaks.

That could actually be caused by meso-scale downsloping, since the large thermal profile is still indicative of snow. Tough to say, but that would be my guess.


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Post by RJB8525 Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:32 pm

it's totally ripping right now. everything's just wet so far
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Post by Vinnydula Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:36 pm

Snowing like crazy not Sticking
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Post by rb924119 Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:37 pm

And to be honest Sroc, I don't think the other synoptic-scale forcings are going to be strong enough to keep that precipitation together as it continues east. I think we'll start to see a decrease in the radar returns with time.

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Post by sroc4 Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:39 pm

@rb924119 wrote:
@sroc4 wrote:
@rb924119 wrote:
@sroc4 wrote:850 closed off.  Notice where the heaviest precip is....central PA.

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There's also a strong orographical component to that, and 850 will likely open back up as it continues east. Have to see how it holds together after crossing the Allegheny chain.....

Interesting.  So the elevation is what is closing off 850? and the enhanced precip is from the upslope right?  As that energy passes over the higher elevations and approaches the coatal plain the opposite in therory would take place due to down slope ya?

Not exactly, but yes at the same time lol. 850 closed off on its own, but the precipitation itself is being strongly enhanced by the upslope from the east-southeasterly-->southerly low-level flow ascending the southwest-northeast oriented mountains. In order for downslope here, there would need to be more of a west to northwest lower-level flow across the terrain, so that's not what would really decrease the precipitation. What **may** do that, though, is because the mountains are forcing increased ascent, as that same air moves east it will have a lower moisture content to it, since the mountains "wrung it out", and so could leave less available moisture for the remaining forcing to work with. That said, the evolution of the exact forcings will still play a very large role (e.g. if 850 can remain closed off, among others). Make sense?

Makes alot of sense.

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Post by algae888 Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:47 pm

snowing hard here not sticking to anything. we will likely lose .2"le to melting snow 2 to 4 inches is probably tops in any urban area. I'm in the Bronx now going home around 2 p.m. see what its doing over there
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Post by docstox12 Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:51 pm

Light snow, ground just wet, intensity not picking up.
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Post by snow247 Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:58 pm

Moderate to heavy snow here, impressive for being so far north. Stickage isn't too bad either. Plenty cold.
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Post by rb924119 Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:02 pm

27 degrees, borderline moderate snow. 0.8" and counting. My forecast looks good so far. Not worried about eclipsing 2".

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Post by Dunnzoo Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:07 pm

Heavy snow now, but not sticking yet...it should soon though

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Post by snow247 Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:10 pm

Radar shows the usual HV screw zone nicely.

http://sirocco.accuweather.com/nxssa_r1_h_500x620d/r1h/inxr1Knyca_h.gif
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Post by Vinnydula Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:12 pm

Just sticking to the grass. Wappany nj
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Post by Taffy Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:17 pm

Grass and cars are covered here as well as the rooftops. It's coming down in a moderately fast pace.

33.3 degrees and humidity is 90%

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Post by docstox12 Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:18 pm

@snow247 wrote:Radar shows the usual HV screw zone nicely.

http://sirocco.accuweather.com/nxssa_r1_h_500x620d/r1h/inxr1Knyca_h.gif

Yep, heaviest stuff yet again will be south of us.Barely moderate snow now.Just a coating on lawn, everything else too warm, I guess.
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Post by snow247 Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:21 pm

@docstox12 wrote:
@snow247 wrote:Radar shows the usual HV screw zone nicely.

http://sirocco.accuweather.com/nxssa_r1_h_500x620d/r1h/inxr1Knyca_h.gif

Yep, heaviest stuff yet again will be south of us.Barely moderate snow now.Just a coating on lawn, everything else too warm, I guess.

Hate seeing white rain, also places well south of us getting crushed (again) while we get screwed in late March! The tide will turn eventually, it has to.

Anyways, enough of that, moderate snow here, only sticking to grass although it is accumulating pretty quick.
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Post by snow247 Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:24 pm

I feel like my snow map will verify quite nicely, likely on the higher end in many spots outside of NYC/other city centers.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:25 pm

Moderate to heavy snow here on Nassau/Queens border on LI since 1:00. Just now starting to whiten the dirt/grassy areas. Everything else wet. Early dismissal. Next report from home!! Very Happy Very Happy

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