Re: Wx Banter Thread 2.0

by **weatherwatchermom** Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:04 am

Can I just say one thing...I too am just as sad as the next person when the chance of snow is dwindling for the up coming weekend...but lets look at the positive...

The men and women who are on this site, who are technical..have learned to sharpen their skills so much more with this wild winter set up. I have been on the blog for a year and watched before that ...Look at all that has been learned.. more about mjo/ stratoshpere/ and all the little things...I see Frank/Sroc/Mugs...as well as others who have grown with all the research they are doing and in turn have been able to teach us non tech weather lovers a thing or two... I am just saying...make lemonade out of lemons...no snow sucks...but learning about mother nature sure is interesting....and maybe we need to do the snow dance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyjC-1jG0NA

Hope the trends change!! but for now I hope everyone has a wonderful Monday!

by Guest Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:14 am

Where has anyone on this forum blamed the men and women who make forecasts?

I agree with CP They've been straight from the beginning.

by **Grselig** Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:58 am

There is no good reason to be upset with anyone on the forum for saying there is the potential for a storm a week and half out. Especially when they qualify that it is a week out and many things could change. I may hate the fact that the possibility of a storm is fading, but I would much rather be aware of the potential and lose it, than not be aware of the potential. It makes it much more fun. I think this winter has been so bleak and warm that we are grasping for anything. Desperation is setting in. Yesterday I took my kids outside so they could enjoy the spring weather. They had fun.

by **jmanley32** Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:28 pm

@Grselig wrote:There is no good reason to be upset with anyone on the forum for saying there is the potential for a storm a week and half out. Especially when they qualify that it is a week out and many things could change. I may hate the fact that the possibility of a storm is fading, but I would much rather be aware of the potential and lose it, than not be aware of the potential. It makes it much more fun. I think this winter has been so bleak and warm that we are grasping for anything. Desperation is setting in. Yesterday I took my kids outside so they could enjoy the spring weather. They had fun.

Maybe we should all take this advice and just forget about snow, if it happens great if it doesn't will go down in history as a snowless winter.

by **frank 638** Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:15 pm

The worst winter I rember was in 97 - 98 we had a strong el nino I rember every week we had wind driven rain Nor easter follow by cold to a another nor easter with rain .only snow we had was in march 21 where we had 3.5 inches of snow.I think Feb we will see our snow

by **amugs** Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:20 pm

This has been a frustrating pattern so far and I concur with sentiment son here and we all learn but going in we were saying a 2nd half to winter. It is not optimal I know and we want cold and storm chances in Dec through March - who the heck wants snow in the middle of March - it screws up spring right?
As one of my peers said to me today were is all the snow you were talking about in your winter outlook sarcastically like he knows and then started the yeah what going on? The models have been a let down so far especially the end in teh LR to a degree. The OP's are just terrible unless it is a cutter which it never seems to correct. The 18 Z I said this two years ago and will always - I HATE THAT FRICKIN' RUN!! Whew feel better - not because of what it showed a few days ago but just in general and the American models need to be overhauled, not upgraded - gutted and rebuilt. Watch when the para comes into full play - it will kick our proverbial behinds and we shouldn't look at the GooFuS.
Unprecedented Nino pattern shaping up with some many other factors that would make Einstein scratch his head. Look we are at the 1/2 way point and many are ready to throw in teh towel - not until we get to teh 2nd week of Feb for me - we can always get a great ending through March. Face it we have been soiled since this century and it is not over so we see what big Momma has to bring.

by **frank 638** Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:22 pm

I meant this February we will probably see our snow storms I'm not giving up on winter yet

by Abba701 Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:43 pm

What are the chances that this is the first winter with no snow at all?

by Snowfall Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:54 pm

I am honestly starting to think we put nyc in 3 to 6 this year and that's on the lower end closer to 3. God if I was ever wrong make this the time

by **NjWeatherGuy** Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:56 pm

From 30" fantasy storm to likely cutter. I feel as though our true threats often emerge in the SR and the LR eye candy typically falls apart as a cutter or OTS or no storm by the time the date arrives. Not dead yet but there are nails in the coffin for this one and time is running out.

by **skinsfan1177** Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:14 pm

I'm not giving up but I wanted to share I can't be to upset I have had my fair share and beyond the last couple of winters. Way above my average. So with that said I'm asking the snow Gods to deliver the goods to those northern folks!

by Guest Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:17 pm

There are only 2 days in the next 10 that look too warm for snow, Tuesday afternoon and evening, and Sunday. THE EXACT TIME THAT EACH "SYSTEM" LOOKS TO AFFECT US!!! Laughing

by **Grselig** Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:26 pm

@skinsfan1177 wrote:I'm not giving up but I wanted to share I can't be to upset I have had my fair share and beyond the last couple of winters. Way above my average. So with that said I'm asking the snow Gods to deliver the goods to those northern folks!

Skins, Thank you!!! I really want snow for those of us who were tortured by Juno. I suggest a sacrifice to the deities. The snow Gods feel that any burning of things is actually an insult. So the burning of a pile of Olaf's would be very bad. I think a mass freezing of Justin Bieber dolls would appease them.

by **CPcantmeasuresnow** Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:20 pm

The all time record low is 2.8 inches in 1972-73. I'm starting to wonder.

Skins you are a true living Saint. God bless my man.

by **CPcantmeasuresnow** Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:24 pm

syosnow94 wrote:There are only 2 days in the next 10 that look too warm for snow, Tuesday afternoon and evening, and Sunday. THE EXACT TIME THAT EACH "SYSTEM" LOOKS TO AFFECT US!!!

It's now become personal. This winter is not only out to frustrate us it is now trying to demoralize, maim and destroy us. And day by day it is succeeding.

by **snow247** Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:30 pm

Friend in the Rochester area thinks it's funny to send me a video of an extremely heavy lake effect snow band over him.

by **frank 638** Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:32 pm

i think with this winter the way it has been i think we need a drink something strong

by **NjWeatherGuy** Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:51 pm

I think its too early to throw in the towel, this may be a severely backloaded winter that may catch many off guard.

by Guest Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:10 pm

@frank 638 wrote:i think with this winter the way it has been i think we need a drink something strong

.....already in progress here at mu house as of last night's depressing news.

On another note if that LP for Sat/Sat night is located at the benchmark (the perfect position for us) it'll make it even that much more demorolizing. Please if there's a weather God and it's going to rain let it cut!!! Not go over the BM and rain due to lack of cold. PLEASE

by **frank 638** Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:28 pm

it is depressing because if we get a storm it rains after that storms leaves it gets cold , dry ,boring .

by **frank 638** Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:30 pm

i am tired of this waiting game its winter where is this snow

by **RJB8525** Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:00 pm

@frank 638 wrote:i am tired of this waiting game its winter where is this snow

in Frank i trust and since December he's been saying in Feb will be our time and to this day he's still proving it..at least its cold? Christmas was almost 70 lol

i still believe!!!!!

by **Frank_Wx** Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:01 pm

This has been a very frustrating season. Sometimes it looks promising in the medium range then when we get within a week everything seems to trend negatively. The -NAO block will still be impressive...but it's only going to last for 3 days. That's a bunch of bullcrap.

My thoughts have always been late January into February that's why I'm not too upset. What this blocking episode DID do was purturb the Stratospheric PV which is key to the upcoming SSWE we'll get late January.

by **skinsfan1177** Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:07 pm

@Frank_Wx wrote:This has been a very frustrating season. Sometimes it looks promising in the medium range then when we get within a week everything seems to trend negatively. The -NAO block will still be impressive...but it's only going to last for 3 days. That's a bunch of bullcrap.

My thoughts have always been late January into February that's why I'm not too upset. What this blocking episode DID do was purturb the Stratospheric PV which is key to the upcoming SSWE we'll get late January.

So does the end of lo,g look promising in delivering snow? I thought their where other storms to watch in the LR

by **docstox12** Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:12 pm

@NjWeatherGuy wrote:I think its too early to throw in the towel, this may be a severely backloaded winter that may catch many off guard.

A man of reason ! Agree completely.It's only Jan. 11th and if I remember, last year things did not get started until late January or early Feb.I have been thinking and saying all along this winter will see the big snow in late Feb or early March.

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