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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
TAKE THIS MJO FROM .................ISOTHERM - TROP FORCING SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
JUST LIKE JAN 15-16TH - SO MANY CANCELLED WINTER - SOME SUCH YE LITTLE FAITH.
To no surprise, I encourage everyone to take a look at the difference b/t the 12z EPS geopotential height signal near Alaska in the D 11-15 range versus the 0z EPS run (around Feb 13th-15th). Significant difference. Does not drive the low heights eastward toward British Columbia as much, which consequently results in a much improved downstream signal over the East. 0Z EPS indicated warmer than normal temperatures D12-15, while the new run now has normal / slightly below and I'm confident is still correcting. All this talk of MJO ending winter in mid Feb is going to go down in proverbial flames in my opinion.
BOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!
PNA RIDGE SPIKE IS GOING TO BE LIKE +4 SD PEEPS WITH A N 2 TO 3ISH EPO YOU WATCH!
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A little scary how the ggem was showing the last storm this far out with the jma and euro but was also a full day earlier at that time too
TWIGHLIGHT ZONE HERE PEEPS!!
TWIGHLIGHT ZONE HERE PEEPS!!
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
VERY CLOSE CALL ON THIS ONE - 3RD ONE SHOULD BE A BOMB LETS SEE
CANT CLOSE OFF OVER FLA FOR GODS SAKE!!
NYC AND LI GET SNOW OUT OF THIS
CANT CLOSE OFF OVER FLA FOR GODS SAKE!!
NYC AND LI GET SNOW OUT OF THIS
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
#2 GIVES CITY AND LI ACCUMULATIONS FROM #2
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HOLY CRAP WHAT A PNA RIDGE OUT WEST WOWZA!!
MONSTER 50/50 OVER GREENLAND !!
MONSTER 50/50 OVER GREENLAND !!
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GFS CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH - WHAT A RIDICULOUS RUN HERE - HUGE SPIKE OUT WEST, MONSTER 50/50 BLOCK OVER GREENLAND AND IT TRIES TO FORM A STORM ON ITS TAIL END
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
Coastal Jersey too Amugs lol. Now this Friday May scrape coastal areas tooamugs wrote:#2 GIVES CITY AND LI ACCUMULATIONS FROM #2
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
GOOD TRENDS HERE AS THE MODELS ARE STARTING TO PICK UP WHAT HAS BEEN STRESSED HERE - THE CHANCES ARE THERE AND UKIE, CMC, EURO AND JMA ALL SHOW STORM FOR US THE LONE HERMIT - GFS RIGHT NOW!!
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
Giddy up GW's cause look at what we have in store - from TWIT
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Can you explain mugsamugs wrote:Giddy up GW's cause look at what we have in store - from TWIT
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
Please explain is that good news or bad news
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
Mugs read that earlier and he may be right. Things def look better today. My only concern is surface temperatures most guidance has us 40 or above through next Tuesday. Damn El Ninoamugs wrote:TAKE THIS MJO FROM .................ISOTHERM - TROP FORCING SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
JUST LIKE JAN 15-16TH - SO MANY CANCELLED WINTER - SOME SUCH YE LITTLE FAITH.To no surprise, I encourage everyone to take a look at the difference b/t the 12z EPS geopotential height signal near Alaska in the D 11-15 range versus the 0z EPS run (around Feb 13th-15th). Significant difference. Does not drive the low heights eastward toward British Columbia as much, which consequently results in a much improved downstream signal over the East. 0Z EPS indicated warmer than normal temperatures D12-15, while the new run now has normal / slightly below and I'm confident is still correcting. All this talk of MJO ending winter in mid Feb is going to go down in proverbial flames in my opinion.
BOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!
PNA RIDGE SPIKE IS GOING TO BE LIKE +4 SD PEEPS WITH A N 2 TO 3ISH EPO YOU WATCH!
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
syosnow94 wrote:Friday anyone? Looks interesting!!!!
Jersey coast and LI may get a snow shower or light accumulation but surface temps are above freezing. Not interested. Real threats are next week. 8th-11th. 2 storms to track.
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Good trends today Mugs! All the models are showing a strong signal for a snowstorm early next week. Although the GFS currently shows an OTS solution, don't forget the west trend with storms this winter. Hope we can at least develop some transient blocking to slow this bad boy down. I'm starting to think we'll all be staying up late watching the models starting Friday night.amugs wrote:GOOD TRENDS HERE AS THE MODELS ARE STARTING TO PICK UP WHAT HAS BEEN STRESSED HERE - THE CHANCES ARE THERE AND UKIE, CMC, EURO AND JMA ALL SHOW STORM FOR US THE LONE HERMIT - GFS RIGHT NOW!!
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
Nuts,
The gfs is lower resolution model without 4advar as the cmc,euro, ukie so it has one hell of a time deciphering between all these convective storms, probably be late to the party as usual!! 50/50 form over Gland and Canada Maritime, be a log jam of storms as we get to middle of next week.
@skins & frank 638
The map shows a lot of warming that totally dislogldges the PV off its arse well axis. Thus allowing for a Neg AO = cold arctice air to filter down and a Neg NAO to form in response to this. This is what Frank has been talking about for weeks now.
@Al, let's not worry about temps at this stage, maybe problems for the coast and LI and not a problem n & w and if that happens well too bad, the lhv peeps need one of these old time storms. I'd take a snow sleet fest for them to get 6" plus.
Models are catching onto things as they did three weeks ago with the massive perturbation in the atmosphere by ..... shall I say it again TROP FORCING!!
If mjo makes it to phase 6 by mid late Feb then we are in great shape as per the maps in posted yesterday showing the 500mb level and the 2m temps fir us, win win baby!!
Two choices going forward here
1. get on the train or
2. stay at the station and miss all the fun
So what is your choice??
Wooooot. Woooooooootttt
LGR!!!!
The gfs is lower resolution model without 4advar as the cmc,euro, ukie so it has one hell of a time deciphering between all these convective storms, probably be late to the party as usual!! 50/50 form over Gland and Canada Maritime, be a log jam of storms as we get to middle of next week.
@skins & frank 638
The map shows a lot of warming that totally dislogldges the PV off its arse well axis. Thus allowing for a Neg AO = cold arctice air to filter down and a Neg NAO to form in response to this. This is what Frank has been talking about for weeks now.
@Al, let's not worry about temps at this stage, maybe problems for the coast and LI and not a problem n & w and if that happens well too bad, the lhv peeps need one of these old time storms. I'd take a snow sleet fest for them to get 6" plus.
Models are catching onto things as they did three weeks ago with the massive perturbation in the atmosphere by ..... shall I say it again TROP FORCING!!
If mjo makes it to phase 6 by mid late Feb then we are in great shape as per the maps in posted yesterday showing the 500mb level and the 2m temps fir us, win win baby!!
Two choices going forward here
1. get on the train or
2. stay at the station and miss all the fun
So what is your choice??
Wooooot. Woooooooootttt
LGR!!!!
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
Rangers do look good tonight Mugs. Without Schneider playing out of his mind it could easily be 3 or 4 nothing by now.
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I'm ready for more snow
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Thanks for the information I say get on the train all a aboard woooo woooo let it snowwwwww
amugs wrote:Nuts,
The gfs is lower resolution model without 4advar as the cmc,euro, ukie so it has one hell of a time deciphering between all these convective storms, probably be late to the party as usual!! 50/50 form over Gland and Canada Maritime, be a log jam of storms as we get to middle of next week.
@skins & frank 638
The map shows a lot of warming that totally dislogldges the PV off its arse well axis. Thus allowing for a Neg AO = cold arctice air to filter down and a Neg NAO to form in response to this. This is what Frank has been talking about for weeks now.
@Al, let's not worry about temps at this stage, maybe problems for the coast and LI and not a problem n & w and if that happens well too bad, the lhv peeps need one of these old time storms. I'd take a snow sleet fest for them to get 6" plus.
Models are catching onto things as they did three weeks ago with the massive perturbation in the atmosphere by ..... shall I say it again TROP FORCING!!
If mjo makes it to phase 6 by mid late Feb then we are in great shape as per the maps in posted yesterday showing the 500mb level and the 2m temps fir us, win win baby!!
Two choices going forward here
1. get on the train or
2. stay at the station and miss all the fun
So what is your choice??
Wooooot. Woooooooootttt
LGR!!!!
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
Srefs trending west for Friday peeps!!!
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
Bring it more west let it snow
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
Two of the 26 members of the 21Z SREF have LaGuardia Airport getting over 10" of snow this weekend...
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
5th threat may be coming back, I put it in February discussion because its not really a LR threat.
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
You know, I'm just looking at the 00z GFS coming in, and it's almost like there is just too much energy headed our way lol I don't know what to focus on, I don't know if the models know what to focus on, and I don't know if it's too busy for anything to come of any of it at all ahaha
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Re: Long Range Thread 10.0
Wave 2 (January 8th) still very much needs to be followed but there are two obstacles in its way.
1. Confluence. There's a sharp trough over eastern Canada that may prevent wave 2 from coming north. If H5 closes off too far south then this storm is likely to affect the southeast only.
2. Wave 3. Bad thing about wave 3 (energy entering the west coast) is it may prevent wave 2 from happening. Good thing about wave 3 is it could bring a strong Miller B to the area.
1. Confluence. There's a sharp trough over eastern Canada that may prevent wave 2 from coming north. If H5 closes off too far south then this storm is likely to affect the southeast only.
2. Wave 3. Bad thing about wave 3 (energy entering the west coast) is it may prevent wave 2 from happening. Good thing about wave 3 is it could bring a strong Miller B to the area.
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Wave 3 would happen on the 10th by the way
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rb924119 wrote:You know, I'm just looking at the 00z GFS coming in, and it's almost like there is just too much energy headed our way lol I don't know what to focus on, I don't know if the models know what to focus on, and I don't know if it's too busy for anything to come of any of it at all ahaha
Right now I think it's a matter of when not if. Pattern amplification like this usually bolds well for the area. I think something will pop between 8th-11th
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Frank_Wx wrote:Wave 2 (January 8th) still very much needs to be followed but there are two obstacles in its way.
1. Confluence. There's a sharp trough over eastern Canada that may prevent wave 2 from coming north. If H5 closes off too far south then this storm is likely to affect the southeast only.
2. Wave 3. Bad thing about wave 3 (energy entering the west coast) is it may prevent wave 2 from happening. Good thing about wave 3 is it could bring a strong Miller B to the area.
January 8th?????
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