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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:08 am

12z NAM improves again, baby steps

http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/WRF_12z/wrf48.html

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Post by amugs Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:19 am

TOM,

BRING ON HERE HOME MAN - AWESOME JOB - YOU ARE LOCKED IN WITH THIS ONE!!

SREFS!!!! TICKING NW!! NYC, LI AND COASTAL NJ SO FAR

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Post by Sanchize06 Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:48 am

12z RGEM for Friday morning

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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:14 am

Models trending much sharper with the trough and vort and GFS showing more consolidated low and "comma head" of RH completely absent from previous runs. Very good trend to see! 12z GFS hr 48

http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/AVN_12z/avn48.html
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:24 am

Sanchize06 wrote:12z RGEM for Friday morning

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It wont take much more of a shift west/ sharper trough and stronger s/w to get us in the goods with this setup. Only concern is HP in the west pushing things off to the east too quickly but its not incredibly strong, no worry of suppression from the north.
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:27 am

Edit 1034 is moderately strong but timing and capturing can still change.
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Post by sabamfa Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:30 am

If this were to somehow impact Morris and eastern Passaic counties in NJ....any idea on timing?

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Post by Frank_Wx Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:36 am

This is as far west as GFS goes

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Post by Frank_Wx Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:37 am

I can actually see this being rain or a mix on Long Island then maybe going over to snow. Timing is after Midnight late Thursday through 10am Friday.

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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:40 am

12z Ukie, wow

http://forums.accuweather.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=280210
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:46 am

Oh I think thats 0z, precip for 12z not available yet but looks good, 1008 low near BM.

http://meteocentre.com/models/get_anim.php?mod=ukmet&run=12&stn=PNM&mode=latest&map=na&lang=en
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:59 am

12z Ukie precipitation, quite robust, 3-4 frames of precip in the area

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Post by algae888 Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:02 pm

I'm hearing euro is further west 1-3, 2-4 type deal for a New York City and Long Island. Wow great job nj with not giving up on this
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Post by amugs Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:11 pm

Ride th EURO WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

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THOMAS BRININ' HER HOME - WOO HOOOO!!

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Post by amugs Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:12 pm

algae888 wrote:I'm hearing euro is further west 1-3, 2-4 type deal for a New York City and Long Island. Wow great job nj with not giving up on this

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Post by algae888 Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:29 pm

amugs wrote:
algae888 wrote:I'm hearing euro is further west 1-3, 2-4 type deal for a New York City and Long Island. Wow great job nj with not giving up on this

BS SROC AND I HAD THIS WEEK AGO - WE ARE WRESTLING TONIGHT

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Mugs you out of your mind!lol you and Scott did have this but Tom is the one who made it Trend west. The Atlantic is becoming very blocky with a big ridge in the central Atlantic. with all the short waves bombing out it really could set us up good for next week.
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Post by algae888 Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:31 pm

If the euro and ukie verify the eastern half of Long Island will have warning criteria snows
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Post by Frank_Wx Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:34 pm

Temps are in the upper 30s to low 40s on the EURO. Really not sure how this would play out

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Post by algae888 Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:41 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:Temps are in the upper 30s to low 40s on the EURO. Really not sure how this would play out
Frank these are the soundings on the euro for New York City
Hour 48 @ KNYC 

850 - 7

925 - 4

BL 33 
 .25 KNYC
 

.4 CNJ/CLLI  .6 E LI

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Post by sroc4 Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:58 pm

algae888 wrote:
amugs wrote:
algae888 wrote:I'm hearing euro is further west 1-3, 2-4 type deal for a New York City and Long Island. Wow great job nj with not giving up on this

BS SROC AND I HAD THIS WEEK AGO - WE ARE WRESTLING TONIGHT

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Mugs you out of your mind!lol you and Scott did have this but Tom is the one who made it Trend west. The Atlantic is becoming very blocky with a big ridge in the central Atlantic. with all the short waves bombing out it really could set us up good for next week.

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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:13 pm

amugs wrote:Blog: February 5th Potential (Sneak Attack?) - Page 2 ECMWF_MSLPThickQPF_ne4_f51

THOMAS BRININ' HER HOME - WOO HOOOO!!

Good trends so far, keep it coming! 18z suite rolling soon.
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Post by Grselig Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:15 pm

sroc4 wrote:
algae888 wrote:
amugs wrote:
algae888 wrote:I'm hearing euro is further west 1-3, 2-4 type deal for a New York City and Long Island. Wow great job nj with not giving up on this

BS SROC AND I HAD THIS WEEK AGO - WE ARE WRESTLING TONIGHT

NJWF WWE STYLE!!
Mugs you out of your mind!lol you and Scott did have this but Tom is the one who made it Trend west. The Atlantic is becoming very blocky with a big ridge in the central Atlantic. with all the short waves bombing out it really could set us up good for next week.

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Gentlemen,
Its time this got really old school. its gonna be a three man tag Texas Death Match.
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Post by sroc4 Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:24 pm

amugs wrote:
algae888 wrote:I'm hearing euro is further west 1-3, 2-4 type deal for a New York City and Long Island. Wow great job nj with not giving up on this

BS SROC AND I HAD THIS WEEK AGO - WE ARE WRESTLING TONIGHT

NJWF WWE STYLE!!

Mugs I think its time we join forces.  I think its time that Hacksaw The SRoc Duggan, Mugs the Animal Steele, and the newly acquired Tom The Super Fly Snuka form a fearsome threesome and lead the charge on this Feb 5th system.  It will be us against all the nae sayers.  Bring it!!  I love the trends!! (make sure to read all the way to the bottom...there is actual analysis)

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And to not completely ruin this thread as it is mostly banter above I will provide some actual analysis.  This is based on the Euro verbatim.  So hrs 48-54 is when the bulk of the precip moves in: Fast and furious.  

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Verbatim surface temps are crashing and are between 32-35* during these time frames:

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Dew Points are plenty below freezing which would crash the surface temps further during heavier precip:  Also notice dew points are decreasing with time.  This screams dynamic cooling.

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850''s and 925's are perfect for snow growth:

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To add to the drama this set up reminds me a lot of March last year.  Weak waves of LP developing along a stalled frontal boundary.  Anomalously warm SST and temperatures crashing behind the front screams baroclinically driven enhanced vertical motion.  Eastern sections could very well verify similar to what the Euro just showed IF, and that's a big fat IF these trends cont.

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Post by amugs Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:02 pm

Great analysis here SROC and yes LET'S TAG TEAM THIS ONE AND GET 'ER DONE!! I LOVE THE TASTE OF TURNBUCKLE YUM YUM!!

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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:09 pm

15z SREF, some nicely amped

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Post by amugs Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:17 pm

SREF HOLDING STEADY ON SV

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