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Post by rb924119 Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:56 am

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NjWeatherGuy wrote:Yea hows he got about the same conditions up there as down here? Closer deepening surface low and better conditions for snow here somehow? Only 100ft here and it vastly overperformed my expectations already for my area.

If I even had a remote GUESS as to why I'd offer it, but I am honestly baffled. I'm looking at NWS observations and they all say the same story; generally 1-3" west of I-81, with comparable amounts in our areas of southeastern PA and western NJ. NEPA seems by far to be the jackpot through this point in time, but with the radar returns I saw all night the areas to the west had the same returns as we have had. Different snow growth regimes, maybe? No idea.

The only other thing that I can think of is that we got/are getting a wetter snow than they did, so when ours hit the ground it took longer to melt because of the higher water content (remember, water has a very high specific heat, so it takes a lot of energy to change the energy state of the water from solid, snow flake/low energy, to a liquid, higher energy state achieved through transfer of heat from the ground to the flake). Therefore, our wetter snow could start stacking on itself, since it was not able to completely melt before other flakes fell, whereas theirs did. I don't know lol

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Post by rb924119 Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:02 am

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jmanley32 wrote:Man I gotta move north, all you guys are having the fun. But then again some years we have gotten the fun, so this is turning into a ice storm for some now?

HEY, we northerners have gotten shafted these last five years or so with the southeast trend, so let us have our ONE event ahaha Throw the dogs a bone, would ya? lmao JK

no i hear ya, i wish u much bigger ones in coming months!

Hahaha thanks!! You as well, Jman!

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Post by HeresL Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:12 am

Coming down hard in West Milford! Grass and roads are covered! What a surprise!
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Post by RJB8525 Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:24 am

Around 12:30-1am it was crazy outside. Huge flakes coming down at a fast pace good coating on the cars and grass
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Post by rb924119 Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:26 am

Still snowing, albeit lightly, but I just measured 5.8" on my deck, and 6.7" on my usual measuring surfaces-beds of pickup trucks. Accounting for the 0.1-0.2" of snow that has yet to fall, I'll figure it will come out darn close to 6.9" on in the trucks and 6"-even on the deck.

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Post by Dunnzoo Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:31 am

35° huge snowflakes mixing in with rain. .51" of rain so far. Some sleet also mixed in earlier. I was watching the Rutgers game on tv and it was sleeting so hard it chased fans from the stands.

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Post by 1190ftalt Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:41 am

Approaching 3 inches here In Stillwater, snow plow just went up the road, what a pleasant surprise this snow storm !
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Post by Dunnzoo Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:00 am

34° .57" rain, mostly snow now.

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Post by docstox12 Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:35 am

32 Degrees, 93%, 29.25F

Heavy snow.Looks like 2 or 3 inches eyeballed on the ground.Radar shows edge coming through.What a surprise!!! Was walking around in a light jacket with mild temps yesterday.
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Post by snow247 Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:34 am

Only a light coating here. Rockland County snow hole continues.

People in the highlands just west of me are reporting 8-12 inches. Crazy if true.
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Post by docstox12 Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:02 am

31.4, 93%, 29.29 F. Looks like 5 inches total up here.I'm sure CP will report the accurate measurement.NWS has snow showers up here through Monday morning.

FINALLY areas N and W of the City like the good old days, get more snow.I will pinch myself AGAIN to see if I'm awake,lol.
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Post by weatherwatchermom Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:24 am

Whoo Hoo for the northern group...what a way to start off the season for you guys and gals!!!
party party

Here down the shore we just have a gusty cold morning...I did see A snow flake Thumbs up  while out with the dog last night.. low temp this morning 33* winds currently w 20 mph and cloudy .33 " rain last night


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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:20 am

Wow that had to be the greatest FROPA in history. Congrats N&W folks.

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Post by Dunnzoo Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:50 am

Total rain .66". Had some huge wet snowflakes towards the end around 3:30-4:00 am. Temps were slow to dip below 35° overnight....

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:56 am

docstox12 wrote:31.4, 93%, 29.29 F. Looks like 5 inches total up here.I'm sure CP will report the accurate measurement.NWS has snow showers up here through Monday morning.

FINALLY areas N and W of the City like the good old days, get more snow.I will pinch myself AGAIN to see if I'm awake,lol.

Doc, just finished shoveling that was some heavy snow.

I measured 4.0 inches here but I'm only at elevation 580 feet, and I think some compression had already started when I measured at 8:00 am. Your 5 may be the more accurate measurement but if you're higher up than me and I know some parts of Monroe are close to 1000 feet, that could account for big differences in a storm like this.

Anyhow shades of two years ago, November 26 2014 when we received 10 inches the night before Thanksgiving and the coast was shut out. We received 72 inches two years ago and if this is a sign we're reverting back to the winter of 2014/15 I'll take it. Anything to wipe  out the nightmare of last winter.
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Post by dkodgis Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:05 am

Beggars can't be choosers. Here in upper Orange County just about three miles above I-84 at 7 am we had 32 degrees and a light coating. Roads are clear and ground is not quite covered,  almost sleety.  About a 1/4 inch. I almost had to use Scotch tape to measure off the driveway. Wow!  Already at 12% of last year's total for the season. Very Happy
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Post by docstox12 Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:06 am

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
docstox12 wrote:31.4, 93%, 29.29 F. Looks like 5 inches total up here.I'm sure CP will report the accurate measurement.NWS has snow showers up here through Monday morning.

FINALLY areas N and W of the City like the good old days, get more snow.I will pinch myself AGAIN to see if I'm awake,lol.

Doc, just finished shoveling that was some heavy snow.

I measured 4.0 inches here but I'm only at elevation 580 feet, and I think some compression had already started when I measured at 8:00 am. Your 5 may be the more accurate measurement but if you're higher up than me and I know some parts of Monroe are close to 1000 feet, that could account for big differences in a storm like this.

Anyhow shades of two years ago, November 26 2014 when we received 10 inches the night before Thanksgiving and the coast was shut out. We received 72 inches two years ago and if this is a sign we're reverting back to the winter of 2014/15 I'll take it. Anything to wipe  out the nightmare of last winter.

Hey, CP, good to see you!!

Took some measurements, I'm at 4.5 inches total here.Yes, remembering the Nov. 2014 snowstorm.Glad to be in the HV for these November snow events.I know Mahwah got zilch from last nites storm.Here's hoping we get a winter like 2014-2015.LOL, we already have almost 20% of last winters entire total with last nites storm.
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Post by Snow88 Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:19 am

12z Nam has more streamers later on for the area
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Post by aiannone Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:36 am

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aiannone wrote:Been snowing here in Binghamton, NY since 7pm. Mostly just a light coating. Having trouble sticking but it's been coming down at a good clip. Roads are just wet, but DOT has thrown salt down.

WHAT?!!! HOW?!! Aha That doesn't even make sense lol What's the approximate elevation?

Im at 900 feet elevation. Just never wanted to stick. Wet snow flakes after pouring rain for about 30min before the changeover. The NWS Binghamton office at 1600ft elevation got 5". Flurrying here now and just about nothing left on the grass.

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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:54 am

It's a November miracle

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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:25 am

Pic from Berkshires, MA

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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:43 am

Snow showers pushing through parts of NJ

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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:43 am

DOC and CP land are close

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Post by snow247 Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:57 am

Snowing again here
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Post by docstox12 Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:52 pm

Temp dropped nearly 3 degrees and wind speed picked up considerably.

38.4, 81%, 29.21 F. Cloudy, raw, wintry.
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