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Post by billg315 Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:50 am

36* and Cloudy. No major tree damage in my yard and kept power all night, so that's a win. Saw a story this morning that PSE&G had 34,000 customers without power last night but by this morning was down to under 1,000. Looks like there's been some bad coastal flooding at the shore at high tide this morning as well.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:53 am

4.3 inches of almost pure sleet. Beats the superstorm of 1993 sleet totals. This is gonna be a bitch to shovel.

Looks like a thin layer of snow in there somewhere that must have changed during the night at some point.

29.7 and light sleet.

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:54 am

Report from upstate Ulster County. 3" of sleet with 2-3" snow on top and a very Igor glaze of zr. Real mixed bag

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:57 am

Strange that they closed schools today considering we only got a few inches of snow. The roads out in the hillier areas must be pretty bad.

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Post by docstox12 Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:57 am

@CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:4.3 inches of almost pure sleet. Beats the superstorm of 1993 sleet totals. This is gonna be a bitch to shovel.

Looks like a thin layer of snow in there somewhere that must have changed during the night at some point.

29.7 and light sleet.


OK, CP, thanks for measuring Buddy.Be careful shoveling, this is pure concrete.Even with temps in the 40's tomorrow and Thursday, think this brick of ice will be around for a while.Temps getting colder after Thursday.

We are almost at last years snow totals CP.Looks like a lock to beat that.
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Post by Dunnzoo Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:15 am

So far 1.7" of rain, heard a tiny bit of sleet mix in last night, 35°.

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Post by aiannone Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:01 am

3.0" of pasty wet snow here in Binghamton, NY. Warning was for 6-12! BUST! lol. College was delayed, opens at 10:05, and guess what, my first class on Tuesday's is 10:05 anyway lol!
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Post by 2004blackwrx Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:09 am

3 inches of sleet. Maybe a little bit of snow in there. Just shoveled a few foot path on deck. This is heavy stuff.

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Post by algae888 Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:46 am

about 1.5" of all rain with a temp between 33 and 37* when rain was falling. so close to a snow storm. what a tease! windy but not like nws forecast for my area. wind was a big bust here. really an ave storm for my town however it will be in my top 25 nightmares of all time. i mean late jan temps low to mid 30's heavy precip and no frozen. thank god it's over!
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Post by amugs Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:03 am

@CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:4.3 inches of almost pure sleet. Beats the superstorm of 1993 sleet totals. This is gonna be a bitch to shovel.

Looks like a thin layer of snow in there somewhere that must have changed during the night at some point.

29.7 and light sleet.


Holy Molly that would have been 12-18 inches of white stuff. Look at it as half filled , the glass that is - I had all rain with some sleet mixed in at times. Friggin temp got down to 33.6* last night - can Big Momma change the freezing temp to 35*???
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so the 3K NAM was great saying you'd have 16" plus which verified to 4" of sleet when the ratios where taken into account.

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Post by skinsfan1177 Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:19 am

Rain has started again just will not quit let's see where I finish today. Currently 3.17 in bucket from yesterday and today
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Post by essexcountypete Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:06 am

I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on how this storm played out as compared to what was modeled. It seems rain amounts and wind speeds did hit some of the numbers that were forecasted, but my impression is that the overall rain totals across the area fell short of predictions, and the wind was not as strong for the extended period of time expected. There was some mention of inversion keeping the highest winds from mixing down to the surface in the late afternoon and evening yesterday. I'm interested in hearing what other factors played out differently from the predictions.
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Post by billg315 Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:22 am

@amugs wrote:January 22nd-24th Nor'easter Observations & Discussions  - Page 41 C27q98TXcAIrb9U

Dare I mention (alert CP) that the RAINFALL total measured in Central Park is significantly HIGHER than surroundings stations! So if this was snow CPK would have measured higher snow totals than other stations this time? Or would they. lol
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Post by devsman Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:42 am

Lazy people in CP measuring. With rain, they can wait 12 hours, come out, look and see how much is there. With snow, after 12 hours, it gets weighed down 10-20% and with that, goes the accurate measurement. Wonder if they really measure every 3 hours, swipe the board and measure again 3 hours later?
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:59 am

@devsman wrote:Lazy people in CP measuring. With rain, they can wait 12 hours, come out, look and see how much is there. With snow, after 12 hours, it gets weighed down 10-20% and with that, goes the accurate measurement. Wonder if they really measure every 3 hours, swipe the board and measure again 3 hours later?

They don't.

Guidelines are clear the board every 6 hours now but we've established they most likely don't even measure at the Conservancy at the 7PM and midnight readings and if they do they just estimate, always low of course. NOAA doesn't seem to care anymore because unlike years past they haven't even replied to any of my e-mails this year.

I still haven't called the contact Ryan got me and weatherwatchermom called. I've got to get around to that.
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Post by Math23x7 Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:17 pm

Here by the Queens/Nassau county border, the rain is coming down harder than it did at any point yesterday/last night.

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Post by Math23x7 Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:28 pm

Also, the Observed pressure at JFK airport is 992 mb!

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Post by Dtone Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:45 pm

Yeah it's pouring here too heaviest of the storm. Downpours rotating in from off the ocean.

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Post by jmanley32 Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:09 pm

It's a deluge right now wth. My mom.in ct said very windy on coast wth. I can't won I was just over there should stayed.
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Post by Quietace Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:21 pm

This rain wont stop. On day three of constant precip.

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Post by Dunnzoo Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:32 pm

@essexcountypete wrote:I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on how this storm played out as compared to what was modeled. It seems rain amounts and wind speeds did hit some of the numbers that were forecasted, but my impression is that the overall rain totals across the area fell short of predictions, and the wind was not as strong for the extended period of time expected. There was some mention of inversion keeping the highest winds from mixing down to the surface in the late afternoon and evening yesterday. I'm interested in hearing what other factors played out differently from the predictions.

I'm going to take a look tonight. I want to compare the soundings, snow maps and obs for the area. See how my experiment went! study

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:18 pm

I've got to say the NAM consistently kept putting where Doc and I are located in a circle of 15-20 inches of snow which verified as 4.3 inches of sleet here which would be very close to the LE sleet to snow.

The NAM is no longer a joke.
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Post by Guest Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:24 pm

Light snow still hanging around here. Wind finally picked up a little. Nothing overwhelming, but enough to get the branches swaying lightly.

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:37 pm

Any reports from west of Binghamton. It's been snowing hard all day

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