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Post by Guest Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:09 am

It's funny the little things you notice in winter when there's no snow. Last winter, I marveled at how some of the leaves stayed on the tree in front of my house all the way through until spring. Going back a few years, there were spring flowers budding in Jan. and Feb. Now I look at the data that says this area averages somewhere between 40 and 55" of snow depending on which database I check and I can't remember the last winter that brought that much snow.

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:31 am

@TheAresian wrote:It's funny the little things you notice in winter when there's no snow. Last winter, I marveled at how some of the leaves stayed on the tree in front of my house all the way through until spring. Going back a few years, there were spring flowers budding in Jan. and Feb. Now I look at the data that says this area averages somewhere between 40 and 55" of snow depending on which database I check and I can't remember the last winter that brought that much snow.

You are in a tough area there, too south or east to benefit from most of the lake effect areas in New York State most of which average between 100-200 inches of a snow a year and two far inland to benefit from most noreasters. The pattern the last 5 years has also been very bad from western and central Pa the areas you're climate is closer to.

Consider Jamestown NY to your west averages 98 inches of snow per year and Binghamton to your east averages 84 inches per year and there you are stuck in the middle averaging 50. If it was me I'd move 50 miles east or west. JK


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Post by essexcountypete Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:32 am

@dkodgis wrote:Near Atlantic City, we used to put out pansies in the first week of January. It was nice seeing flowering plants in January. Daffodils are starting to peek up through the ground there and some Crocus will come out in about two weeks.  Here, I love the change of seasons and the winter but I guess the good old days are getting fewer and fewer when it comes to snow. At least the stream picked up from a mud bed to about 30 feet wide and a foot deep.  It has been so dry. Not a good winter for the water table.

I guess my Daffodils are just earlier than most. They've been poking out for weeks and they're 3-4" out of the ground. Same thing happened last year, and the late freezes meant fewer flowers. I saved a bunch of pine boughs from Christmas to cover them in a big storm. I hope they get used.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:39 am

@CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
@TheAresian wrote:It's funny the little things you notice in winter when there's no snow. Last winter, I marveled at how some of the leaves stayed on the tree in front of my house all the way through until spring. Going back a few years, there were spring flowers budding in Jan. and Feb. Now I look at the data that says this area averages somewhere between 40 and 55" of snow depending on which database I check and I can't remember the last winter that brought that much snow.

You are in a tough area there, to south or east to benefit from most of the lake effect areas in New York State most of which average between 100-200 inches of a snow a year and two far inland to benefit from most noreasters. The pattern the last 5 years has also been very bad from western and central Pa the areas you're climate is closer to.

Consider Jamestown NY to your west averages 98 inches of snow per year and Binghamton to your east averages 84 inches per year and there you are stuck in the middle averaging 50. If it was me I'd move 50 miles east or west. JK

I live in the snow void, the hole of the snownut so to speak. I grew up in Herkimer, (not too far from Utica so as to give you a vague idea of where that is) NY which averages over 100"/year. As far as moving goes, if I ever move it will be to someplace like rural Maine where I can be fairly isolated and still get a lot of snow.

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:15 am

@Quietace wrote:I love winter. But when it doesn't snow just give me summer already so I can get outside...

The winter in Plymouth NH has been poor this year also?
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:16 am

@sroc4 wrote:Rose the beginning of Feb is going to be amazing rose, I swear it.  Its going to be the best two weeks of your life.  

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You friggin lied to me about Feb Jack, so no you cant come up on this head board with me even though there is plenty of room.  Your probably going to die now Jack.  

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:40 pm

Snow from yesterday all melted. Back to cloudy and 45 degrees, brown ground February 1st. cheers cheers Sleep Sleep savior savior Thumbs up Thumbs up white flag white flag party party party party party

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:41 pm

@Quietace wrote:I love winter. But when it doesn't snow just give me summer already so I can get outside...

For once you and I agree completely!!

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Post by Quietace Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:44 pm

syosnow94 wrote:
@Quietace wrote:I love winter. But when it doesn't snow just give me summer already so I can get outside...

For once you and I agree completely!!
Seriously. Anything that is 35*-45* is miserable. To warm to snow...to cold to do anything outside. What is the point? Just break the pattern and make it 60+ degrees under strong high pressure that way we can get outside and enjoy it...

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Post by algae888 Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:53 pm

Meltdowns all over the weather world today especially on the East Coast. Really can't complain for area most of us are near normal or above normal snowfall at this point. Yes January sucked and it's been warm for too long. But the pattern has changed and is still changing so we have a great shot and ending up normal to slightly above this winter I mean we can expect one hundred and fifty percent of snowfall every year or can we
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Post by Frank_Wx Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:06 pm

@algae888 wrote:Meltdowns all over the weather world today especially on the East Coast. Really can't complain for area most of us are near normal or above normal snowfall at this point. Yes January sucked and it's been warm for too long. But the pattern has changed and is still changing so we have a great shot and ending up normal to slightly above this winter I mean we can expect one hundred and fifty percent of snowfall every year or can we

I don't think anyone is above normal in snowfall. And many people are below normal.

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:14 pm

syosnow94 wrote:
@Quietace wrote:I love winter. But when it doesn't snow just give me summer already so I can get outside...

For once you and I agree completely!!

Careful, talk like that will have you back in OTI prison. A word to the wise, SNOWMAN is watching, ALWAYS!!
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:22 pm

@algae888 wrote:Meltdowns all over the weather world today especially on the East Coast. Really can't complain for area most of us are near normal or above normal snowfall at this point. Yes January sucked and it's been warm for too long. But the pattern has changed and is still changing so we have a great shot and ending up normal to slightly above this winter I mean we can expect one hundred and fifty percent of snowfall every year or can we

Al it's not just the snowfall, we've been 6 to 8 degrees above normal area wide since mid December. Snowfall around our area I would say for the most part is slightly to below normal so far area wide. Some spots are near normal, I'm at 27.1 which is near normal for the end of January, but when it's this freakin warm who gets to enjoy it? We're lucky in most of the HV that the sleet storm from a week ago has kept us in a mantle of white for the last 9 days but other than this period there have been very few that it's looked like winter.

Speaking of sleet we should order up a 4 inch sleet storm for everyone at the beginning of December. This stuff laughs at the sun.
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Post by algae888 Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:30 pm

@Frank_Wx wrote:
@algae888 wrote:Meltdowns all over the weather world today especially on the East Coast. Really can't complain for area most of us are near normal or above normal snowfall at this point. Yes January sucked and it's been warm for too long. But the pattern has changed and is still changing so we have a great shot and ending up normal to slightly above this winter I mean we can expect one hundred and fifty percent of snowfall every year or can we

I don't think anyone is above normal in snowfall. And many people are below normal.
All of Long Island is above normal the city and northwest suburbs near normal I believe it's just Central Jersey to Jersey Shore South that's below normal
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Post by algae888 Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:31 pm

And yes CP the warmth the sucks and the snow hasn't stuck around so that probably makes this winter a c so far
But I think you and I can agree that this is far from the worst Winters we've seen
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Post by sroc4 Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:53 pm

@algae888 wrote:
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@algae888 wrote:Meltdowns all over the weather world today especially on the East Coast. Really can't complain for area most of us are near normal or above normal snowfall at this point. Yes January sucked and it's been warm for too long. But the pattern has changed and is still changing so we have a great shot and ending up normal to slightly above this winter I mean we can expect one hundred and fifty percent of snowfall every year or can we

I don't think anyone is above normal in snowfall. And many people are below normal.
All of Long Island is above normal the city and northwest suburbs near normal I believe it's just Central Jersey to Jersey Shore South that's below normal

I can concur.  At least my backyard is above normal; although many locations on LI are not because some of the systems that affected LI we had convective banding that did not affect the entire area.   Normal snowfall for me is about 28" so I am def ahead of schedule at 21.95" with historically the biggest snowfall month to go.  One modest event will get me above normal and thats do-able. I personally weight snowfall more heavily than temps.  If I end up with above normal snowfall in an otherwise crappy winter that is a win for me no questions asked.  I will never give a grade less than a C- for that.  Last winter was the perfect example.  That is as bad a winter overall as it gets yet IMBY I had above normal snowfall and a nice blizzard.  That would make this winter no less than a C if I end up above normal because overall the temps were much better than last year.  It wont get much worse than last year, at least we hope.

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:59 pm

@algae888 wrote:And yes CP the warmth the sucks and the snow hasn't stuck around so that probably makes this winter a c so far
But I think you and I can agree that this is far from the worst Winters we've seen

Definitely Al. Could probably start with three of the four years Ended the 1990's. For me this year already surpasses last winter which was one of my top three worst of all time.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:55 pm

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Post by frank 638 Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:02 pm

According to the weather channel almost all of the united States will be well above normal for 2 weeks please tell me this is not true

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Post by frank 638 Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:04 pm

I meant twc has the country well above normal temps for 2 weeks if this true I am giving up this winter

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Post by essexcountypete Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:32 pm

syosnow94 wrote:Nobody gave me any love on my new avatar huh!  Are you all asleep at the wheel or do you see people like this regularly?

I was actually going to recommend you relax with a nice Chianti.
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Post by billg315 Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:39 pm

syosnow94 wrote:Nobody gave me any love on my new avatar huh!  Are you all asleep at the wheel or do you see people like this regularly?

I saw it, but frankly with the past two winters affecting people on here the way that they have, nothing struck me as odd about it at all. lol
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:42 pm

I just wish the weather would make up its mind long enough for me to decide whether or not to reactivate WxBell.

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Post by Quietace Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:54 pm

Finally got a CocoRaHS gauge at home(Needed to find money in the budget its $39.75 with shipping). Have been taking the ones here at school for a year or so. Also finally going to a skywarn class in April to get that done after a numerous amount of years wanting to.

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Post by Frank_Wx Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:04 pm

syosnow94 wrote:Nobody gave me any love on my new avatar huh!  Are you all asleep at the wheel or do you see people like this regularly?

Am I supposed to know who that is?

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