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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:59 am

After an afternoon high of 41 Thursday (23rd) with sun most of the day and a Friday morning low of 21, the snow pack Friday (24th) morning is 6.0 inches.

Yesterday only 0.8 inches in snow depth was lost, despite a bright March sun most of the day and temps that were above freezing by early afternoon. Most of the reduced melt rate I would attribute to the condensed ice pack the almost two feet of snow has compressed and melted into the past 10 days. Areas on hills sloping towards the sun all day show bare spots. 81 days of snow cover this winter and counting, To be continued tomorrow.

Below is the snow cover of 1 inch or more so far this season. Despite a top ten warmest December through February it stands at 81 days and counting this season.

..............Eastern Orange County Winter 2016/17
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.........................................Consecutive......Snowfall
Begin date........End Date.....Days 1" cover....during period
20-Nov-16.......26-Nov-16.........6...................4.0
05-Dec-16.......26-Dec-16........21..................9.6
29-Dec-16.......31-Dec-16..........2..................1.7
06-Jan-17........12-Jan-17..........6..................2.7
14-Jan-17........16-Jan-17..........2..................1.0
23-Jan-17........22-Feb-17.........30................26.0
10-Mar-17........24-Mar-17.........14................25.7

...............................Totals......81................70.7

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Post by docstox12 Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:59 pm

43.5, 67%, 30.00 F

Had a little sleet mixed with rain, now all light rain. .08 in the bucket.Property still 100% snow covered.Looks like 5 to 6 inches.

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Post by amugs Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:52 pm

Excellent work CP!!

42* and rain had a mix at the start now just rain.

Heading out to WE ARE (Penn State) with my son for his college acceptance tour tomorrow morning. Lovely 4 hours drive ahead if no traffic!!

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Post by skinsfan1177 Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:23 am

Looking forward to the warmth today already 55° I think we will hit 70s no problem. Birds are chirping and spring fever has begun.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:07 am

skinsfan1177 wrote:Looking forward to the warmth today already 55° I think we will hit 70s no problem. Birds are chirping and spring fever has begun.

And 50 mile north of NYC it's a different season, will struggle to get out of the 40's today.

After an afternoon high of 47 Friday (24th) with clouds most of the day and a little rain and a Saturday morning low of 33, the snow pack Saturday (25th) morning is down to 4.7 inches.

Yesterday 1.3 inches in snow depth was lost. It is interesting to note that the inches lost each day seems to decrease the lower the depth becomes as the compression and LE of the remaining snow increases proportionately to the remaining snow depth. Areas on hills sloping towards the sun all day and under trees have bare spots. I would probably target Tuesday the 28th when the landscape will be more than 50% snow less. 82 days of snow cover this winter and counting, to be continued tomorrow.
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Post by docstox12 Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:13 am

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
skinsfan1177 wrote:Looking forward to the warmth today already 55° I think we will hit 70s no problem. Birds are chirping and spring fever has begun.

And 50 mile north of NYC it's a different season, will struggle to get out of the 40's today.

After an afternoon high of 47 Friday (24th) with clouds most of the day and a little rain and a Saturday morning low of 33, the snow pack Saturday (25th) morning is down to 4.7 inches.

Yesterday 1.3 inches in snow depth was lost. It is interesting to note that the inches lost each day seems to decrease the lower the depth becomes as the compression and LE of the remaining snow increases proportionately to the remaining snow depth. Areas on hills sloping towards the sun all day and under trees have bare spots. I would probably target Tuesday the 28th when the landscape will be more than 50% snow less. 82 days of snow cover this winter and counting, to be continued tomorrow.

So true, CP, 50 miles plus elevation.I have a bare spot on the lawn about 5 feet in diameter, but otherwise completely snow covered here.Is 50% your criteria for a snow pack day count?

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:06 am

docstox12 wrote:
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
skinsfan1177 wrote:Looking forward to the warmth today already 55° I think we will hit 70s no problem. Birds are chirping and spring fever has begun.

And 50 mile north of NYC it's a different season, will struggle to get out of the 40's today.

After an afternoon high of 47 Friday (24th) with clouds most of the day and a little rain and a Saturday morning low of 33, the snow pack Saturday (25th) morning is down to 4.7 inches.

Yesterday 1.3 inches in snow depth was lost. It is interesting to note that the inches lost each day seems to decrease the lower the depth becomes as the compression and LE of the remaining snow increases proportionately to the remaining snow depth. Areas on hills sloping towards the sun all day and under trees have bare spots. I would probably target Tuesday the 28th when the landscape will be more than 50% snow less. 82 days of snow cover this winter and counting, to be continued tomorrow.

So true, CP, 50 miles plus elevation.I have a bare spot on the lawn about 5 feet in diameter, but otherwise completely snow covered here.Is 50% your criteria for a snow pack day count?

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Doc I just use the area I'm measuring in which is a flat area that receives sun exposure about 1/2 the day.
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Post by docstox12 Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:10 am

10-4 CP.
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Post by Snow88 Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:19 am

1 last show in the 1st week of April?
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:37 pm

Snow88 wrote:1 last show in the 1st week of April?

I would love it.

Temp has dropped 4 degrees in the last hour here from a chilly 42, to a raw and breezy 38 with cloud cover and still a snow covered landscape. This is how winters are supposed to end around here, gradually and reluctantly.
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Post by Radz Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:26 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
Snow88 wrote:1 last show in the 1st week of April?

I would love it.

Temp has dropped 4 degrees in the last hour here from a chilly 42, to a raw and breezy 38 with cloud cover and still a snow covered landscape. This is how winters are supposed to end around here, gradually and reluctantly.

After a quick high of 50, down to 41 and about 70% of the yard holding on to the snowpack, albeit getting mighty thin... was hoping for one more accumulating snow event
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Post by 2004blackwrx Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:20 pm

Time to watch the tropics. May see history here. https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/atlantic-tropical-subtropical-low-late-march

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Post by billg315 Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:47 pm

Man what a difference about 40-50 miles makes. Hit the mid-60s here today and the only snow left is that which was piled ridiculously high by the plowing operations. But it has cooled off quickly this evening. Down to 52* already.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:15 pm

You got that right Chief Justice.

Topped out at 42 here today down to 35 now and keeps dropping slowly. I'm starting to wonder if we have icing conditions here tonight or tomorrow night. Still completely snow covered here just 45-50 miles due north of NYC and it still looks and feels like winter.

Did I hear AC hit 81 today? That's nuts and BTW way to early for me.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:50 am

After an afternoon high of 42 Saturday (25th) with clouds and some drizzle and light rain most of the day and a Sunday morning low of 31, the snow pack Sunday (26th) morning is down to 3.3 inches.

Yesterday 1.4 inches in snow depth was lost. 83 days of snow cover this winter and counting, and 16 consecutive days this March. To be continued tomorrow.

Below is the snow cover of 1 inch or more so far this season. Despite a top ten warmest December through February it stands at 83 days and counting this season.

..............Eastern Orange County Winter 2016/17
................Days with snowpack and total snow

.........................................Consecutive......Snowfall
Begin date........End Date.....Days 1" cover....during period
20-Nov-16.......26-Nov-16.........6...................4.0
05-Dec-16.......26-Dec-16........21..................9.6
29-Dec-16.......31-Dec-16..........2..................1.7
06-Jan-17........12-Jan-17..........6..................2.7
14-Jan-17........16-Jan-17..........2..................1.0
23-Jan-17........22-Feb-17.........30................26.0
10-Mar-17........26-Mar-17.........16................25.7

...............................Totals......83................70.7
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Post by docstox12 Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:16 am

37.7, 92%, 30.19 R Cloudy, calm.

Very wintry feel today even though Spring sprung almost a week ago.95% of ground here still snow covered on our property.

.08 in the bucket from overnight.
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Post by RJB8525 Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:17 am

around 35* had some rain last night

damp cloudy
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Post by amugs Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:40 am

41* and a cloudy dreary March day in NNJ.
Lots of mounds of snow still abound

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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:40 am

How's everyone's weekend so far?

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Post by frank 638 Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:51 am

Hey Frank I hope u had a great weekend I had a great weekend .I just came back from the bakery I got a nice olive bread for tonight dinner we are making braciole with pasta and sauce with broccoli rabe with sausage for second anyone hungery lol

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Post by Dunnzoo Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:47 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:How's everyone's weekend so far?

Cold and damp today, sitting by the fire watching the Mets game. Was nice yesterday, went into the city for a little bit. This wet pattern is just going to stink big time.

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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:17 pm

frank 638 wrote:Hey Frank I hope u had a great weekend I had a great weekend .I just came back from the bakery I got a nice olive bread for tonight dinner we are making braciole with pasta and sauce with broccoli rabe with sausage for second anyone hungery lol

Sounds amazing. Glad your weekend is going well.

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Cold and damp today, sitting by the fire watching the Mets game. Was nice yesterday, went into the city for a little bit. This wet pattern is just going to stink big time.

I know, but at least it's milder. This time of year kinda stinks weather wise. Lots of rain outs in baseball.

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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:01 am

Looking over model data I don't see much of a warm-up. Obviously it will be warm enough for it not to snow, but looking at temps near to slightly below average with frequent days of overcast and rainy conditions.

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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:05 am

Grossssssssss

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Post by skinsfan1177 Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:18 am

The fog has been brutal here
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Post by sroc4 Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:33 am

Same here Skins. It's unfort but here is the very last of my snow pack in my yard. Obv this is the north side of the house. Between the fog and the rain I am sad to say the last of my snow will not likely make it through the day. With that, unless some freak April storm, IMBY I am saying goodbye to winter 2016/2017. nooooo

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:41 am

After an afternoon high of only 36 Sunday (26th) with clouds and and light rain most of the day and a Monday morning low of 33, the snow pack Monday (27th) morning is down to 2.5 inches.

Yesterday 0.8 inches in snow depth was lost. 84 days of snow cover this winter and counting, and 17 consecutive days this March. To be continued and possibly end tomorrow as I don't see the current snow cover going past midweek, about 75% total coverage now.
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