March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
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March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
Buongiorno Ragazzi -
As mentioned I will be traveling this weekend. Leaving tomorrow for Dallas and not returning until Monday evening. Models are hinting at an inverted trough setting up on Saturday and bringing moderate snow to parts of the area late that evening or early Sunday morning. I placed snow confidence level at 70% this morning for at least 1" of snow for CPK. IVT are VERY difficult to predict and surface temps appear to be above freezing from NYC on south and east.
NAM Model valid 11pm Saturday and 1am Sunday
That shows 4 to 8 inches of snow for parts of NNJ, NEPA, N&W of NYC. Likely 3-6 inches for NYC, and 2-4 inches for people to the south. The NAM is quite bullish with this event.
EURO Model valid 1am and 5am Sunday
EURO is also quite bullish so there is reason to take this event seriously.
The 500mb low is passing OVER or JUST north of our area. I would feel more confident in a significant accumulation if this low tracked south of our area.
There's lots of PVA within the trough though, and it does go negative at one point overnight Saturday. This is why I believe this event is more of an IVT.
Upton seems to agree:
I will try and provide today's models if I have time. I will leave it up to the other forecasters of this board to track this event. I will release my official forecast for this event, without a map, later this afternoon.
As mentioned I will be traveling this weekend. Leaving tomorrow for Dallas and not returning until Monday evening. Models are hinting at an inverted trough setting up on Saturday and bringing moderate snow to parts of the area late that evening or early Sunday morning. I placed snow confidence level at 70% this morning for at least 1" of snow for CPK. IVT are VERY difficult to predict and surface temps appear to be above freezing from NYC on south and east.
NAM Model valid 11pm Saturday and 1am Sunday
That shows 4 to 8 inches of snow for parts of NNJ, NEPA, N&W of NYC. Likely 3-6 inches for NYC, and 2-4 inches for people to the south. The NAM is quite bullish with this event.
EURO Model valid 1am and 5am Sunday
EURO is also quite bullish so there is reason to take this event seriously.
The 500mb low is passing OVER or JUST north of our area. I would feel more confident in a significant accumulation if this low tracked south of our area.
There's lots of PVA within the trough though, and it does go negative at one point overnight Saturday. This is why I believe this event is more of an IVT.
Upton seems to agree:
Upton wrote:Models agree that low pressure dives down through the Great Lakes
Region during Saturday with a secondary low pressure development
which emerges off the Mid-Atlantic coast Saturday night. This
coastal low eventually tracks northeast, passing to the southeast of
the 40N/70W benchmark during Sunday. An inverted trough potentially
shifts through the CWA during Saturday night before the storm pulls
away. This could potentially serve as a focus of enhanced PCPN as an
upper trough/shortwave interacts with it. As usually the case, its
very difficult this far out to say with much confidence if/where the
inverted trough/enhanced PCPN actually occurs. In any case, there is
enough confidence to go with likely PoPs across the area with this
setup. PCPN would become likely west to east as Saturday progresses,
then tapers off Saturday night into early Sunday morning.
Regarding PCPN type, there is no apparent elevated warm layer being
progged by any of the models, so PCPN type would therefore be
dependent on the boundary layer thermal profile and likely not
include sleet or freezing rain. Expecting and all-snow event only
for the northern fringe zones of the CWA with mixed rain and snow or
mainly rain farther south. Currently have a forecast of 1-3 inches
of snowfall north of the city, and 1 inch or less for Long Island,
I will try and provide today's models if I have time. I will leave it up to the other forecasters of this board to track this event. I will release my official forecast for this event, without a map, later this afternoon.
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
Nice write up Frank. I'm in Savannah Georgia and on mobile only. Supposed to fly home as this event is set to unfold. It would be a shame if I get stuck down here for an additional day.
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
SREFS for this upcoming storm -we'll see
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
NNJ sitting pretty here at this point - time will tell - we shifted 100 mile south sop far if this continues it will be an ACY event LOL
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
If it helps any, I'll ask the Snow Gods to send all of the snow for far northwest down your way.
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this should be interesting. right now TWC has:
Friday night: Snow showers late
Saturday: Rain/snow 1-3"
Saturday night: Snow 1-3"
to be continued.........
Enjoy the lone star state, get some good BBQ
Friday night: Snow showers late
Saturday: Rain/snow 1-3"
Saturday night: Snow 1-3"
to be continued.........
Enjoy the lone star state, get some good BBQ
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
I'm at a wedding Saturday night and staying at a hotel there. As long at they plow the parking lot Sunday morning I'll be ok I suppose.
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
12z NAM has the IVT over NNJ/NYC/LI
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GFS sniffin this out
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
wow that 7" spot lol
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
if the gfs is right that put a nice 4-6 in my are of southern dutchess boy no more room after the 23 but the snow nut in me will take it.
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7 inch spot almost right over me. Not expecting it just because of the unpredictability of events like this IVTs and the like but certainly won't complain if it happens. The more snow the merrier.
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yea cp 4-7 in our area is nothing to complain about that's for sure. If it happens.
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Since Frank will be in Dallas this weekend, I now know that the inverted trough will set up right over Cranford. Epic Godzilla incoming for that neighborhood!
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
Interesting
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
amugs wrote:Interesting
UKIE
How much of it is snow though?
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
Math for u don't me for e in NNJ it is all snow
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NAM'S COMING IN HOT AND HEAVY
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
Mobile will post in a few
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
Lee has his first early call so far he has everyone for 1 to 3 inches
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He's humpin' the EURO and REG NAM - GFS and PARA and HI RES NAMS are not saying that - the battle againfrank 638 wrote:Lee has his first early call so far he has everyone for 1 to 3 inches
This would be a warning type of snow for a good portion if it verifies - falls from 7PMish till 6AMish Saturday night into Sunday morning
Reg NAM
Off of PW
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Thanks amugz I will take it happy with that so far bring on the snow
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
Watch the city get more snow from this than on Tuesday from the "blizzzzzzard"...
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Re: March 18th-19th Possible IVT Snow Event
In all honesty, I think eastern LI gets the jackpot from this inverted trough. So Scott, this is your storm
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