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Re: MARCH 2nd-3rd 2018 Complex set up
jmanley32 wrote:So rb southern Westchester has a shot at 12plus maybe sig higher?
Westchester is so hard because it literally cuts in half ALL THE TIME lmao I don't want to put any hard numbers out because I do not have the adequate information to make prediction that I'm comfortable with or proud of, but I am thinking the following probabilities right now:
0"-T: 5% (or less)
T-6": 40%
6-12": 40%
12"+: 15%
So, while small, it is certainly a non-zero chance of seeing more than a foot in my opinion as things stand now.
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rb...don't usually ask mby..does central jersey and the coast see anything?...Lee G...said this was a higher elevation storm...out all day...came home to 4 pages..head spinning?
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weatherwatchermom wrote:rb...don't usually ask mby..does central jersey and the coast see anything?...Lee G...said this was a higher elevation storm...
"Anything"? Yes. "A lot"? Probably not. I think WWA-criteria would be a safe call, but add in the winds and it is still going to be very nasty. Again, this is all in my opinion.
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Interesting note that the 18z 3K NAM brings sleet into NYC around midnight on Friday as evidenced by the Tropical Tidbits snow accumulation which includes sleet.
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12k NAM just And I mean just fn pummel's areas 100 NNE of us. The slightest shift by the jet dynamics and we could be seeing similar print outs fornus.... yeah no sht
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Just “feels” too much like spring. I HOPE rob IS RIGHT. BUT IM THINKING AT BEST FOR ORANGE COUNTY SOUTH 3-5”. HOPE IM WRONG BUT IF IM NOT JUST BRING ON SPRING.
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Goof us coming around jet dynamics - dual streak is impressive
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syosnow94 wrote:Just “feels” too much like spring. I HOPE rob IS RIGHT. BUT IM THINKING AT BEST FOR ORANGE COUNTY SOUTH 3-5”. HOPE IM WRONG BUT IF IM NOT JUST BRING ON SPRING.
Jim we have next week too. Again don't look at OP but pattern. Not for die us sion here this is the storm thread.
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I’m talking about this storm mugs. Just don’t see it happening. PRAYING IM WRONG
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don't we want that further north? Or in this case is that not a issue.amugs wrote:Goof us coming around jet dynamics - dual streak is impressive
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I'm sorry but I will so b upset if that pans out like that. Not cuz it's mass just bc it's so darn close in retrospect. If we start see those totals continue and shift South the nws better get ready for major slerts.amugs wrote:12k NAM just And I mean just fn pummel's areas 100 NNE of us. The slightest shift by the jet dynamics and we could be seeing similar print outs fornus.... yeah no sht
Soul your right but heck let's bring on the mayhem!!
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jmanley32 wrote:don't we want that further north? Or in this case is that not a issue.amugs wrote:Goof us coming around jet dynamics - dual streak is impressive
NO. If anything further south and east.
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I understand you cannot give amounts nor even wind numbers but is it possible NYC area could see 60 plus mph gusts? Or even higher? Nam looks that way yes it's 850 level I understand but even half what's shown it's 30 to 40 kts and gusts usually bout 15 kts higher except a few extreme ones mixed in usually. Sorry to harp on wind guys but ur giving me the ultimate of heavy snow and wind possibility. How can one not get excited? And the winds either going to happen or not and better to be prepared than not especially since they are coming from a favorable direction. Well unfavorable if u want no wind. Oh and a side note first two days of work have been good but crazy.rb924119 wrote:jmanley32 wrote:don't we want that further north? Or in this case is that not a issue.amugs wrote:Goof us coming around jet dynamics - dual streak is impressive
NO. If anything further south and east.
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Oh what is the time frame for this? Start and then the height which seems it may be a very long duration. It would be crazy if I got a snow day on my first week at work lol. Luckily it's built in. And so far they haven't used them. I dunno how they didn't for the bomb storm maybe they forgot bout that one and did.
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The 12K Nam brings the goods also for the Mid Hudson valley.
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GFS is too far North with the LPINTOTHAT block. One the LP feel's then press it will move away and go more S.
One thing is for sure IF we get that tucked type low the shores are fooked!!
One thing is for sure IF we get that tucked type low the shores are fooked!!
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Mugs , at first I was reading your post and thought It was some kinda code. Now I got it!
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Not to get off topic but where is Frank?
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Lol mugs has big fingers needs a bigger phone. I can't wait to see how this pans out for better or worse.
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ya I'm kinda surprised no snow index. Am I supposed to assume that means he believes there isn't even a system with a shot at snow? It's really only 48 or so hrs away.WeatherBob wrote:Not to get off topic but where is Frank?
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jmanley32 wrote:I understand you cannot give amounts nor even wind numbers but is it possible NYC area could see 60 plus mph gusts? Or even higher? Nam looks that way yes it's 850 level I understand but even half what's shown it's 30 to 40 kts and gusts usually bout 15 kts higher except a few extreme ones mixed in usually. Sorry to harp on wind guys but ur giving me the ultimate of heavy snow and wind possibility. How can one not get excited? And the winds either going to happen or not and better to be prepared than not especially since they are coming from a favorable direction. Well unfavorable if u want no wind. Oh and a side note first two days of work have been good but crazy.rb924119 wrote:jmanley32 wrote:don't we want that further north? Or in this case is that not a issue.amugs wrote:Goof us coming around jet dynamics - dual streak is impressive
NO. If anything further south and east.
If you're asking ONLY if it's possible; then yes. Higher? I don't think so, unless marginally. I don't blame you one bit for the excitement.....have you not seen my posts? Lmao Idk if I've ever used so many caps before ahaha and mugsy, you know his level of excitement by how hard it s to decipher what he writes, and well, if WeatherBob's most recent post is any indication then I think we are on the right track ahahahaha love ya, mugs!! As for timing, that is still dependent upon which model you look at. Right now, I like a Thursday afternoon/evening start time, worst comes in very early Friday morning through Friday night/early Saturday morning.
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so high wind warning criteria type stuff. Yeah at this time way too early to ask.anything more than if it's possible but if u asked me that's the one thing that looks to have remained pretty consistent. Yeah hopefully all our excitement isn't dashed. I need thing for sure nolocal outlet is saying snything. I think if this looks as crazy as it could be then people need to start to know tomorrow. You know bread milk and all. Well I'm go assume I have go work Fri so it's def go b a test of my attendance. Luckily I'm pretty close by and it will look good if I am one of the few that makes it in. They weigh timeliness and attendance very high.rb924119 wrote:jmanley32 wrote:I understand you cannot give amounts nor even wind numbers but is it possible NYC area could see 60 plus mph gusts? Or even higher? Nam looks that way yes it's 850 level I understand but even half what's shown it's 30 to 40 kts and gusts usually bout 15 kts higher except a few extreme ones mixed in usually. Sorry to harp on wind guys but ur giving me the ultimate of heavy snow and wind possibility. How can one not get excited? And the winds either going to happen or not and better to be prepared than not especially since they are coming from a favorable direction. Well unfavorable if u want no wind. Oh and a side note first two days of work have been good but crazy.rb924119 wrote:jmanley32 wrote:don't we want that further north? Or in this case is that not a issue.amugs wrote:Goof us coming around jet dynamics - dual streak is impressive
NO. If anything further south and east.
If you're asking ONLY if it's possible; then yes. Higher? I don't think so, unless marginally. I don't blame you one bit for the excitement.....have you not seen my posts? Lmao Idk if I've ever used so many caps before ahaha and mugsy, you know his level of excitement by how hard it s to decipher what he writes, and well, if WeatherBob's most recent post is any indication then I think we are on the right track ahahahaha love ya, mugs!! As for timing, that is still dependent upon which model you look at. Right now, I like a Thursday afternoon/evening start time, worst comes in very early Friday morning through Friday night/early Saturday morning.
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jmanley32 wrote:so high wind warning criteria type stuff. Yeah at this time way too early to ask.anything more than if it's possible but if u asked me that's the one thing that looks to have remained pretty consistent. Yeah hopefully all our excitement isn't dashed. I need thing for sure nolocal outlet is saying snything. I think if this looks as crazy as it could be then people need to start to know tomorrow. You know bread milk and all. Well I'm go assume I have go work Fri so it's def go b a test of my attendance. Luckily I'm pretty close by and it will look good if I am one of the few that makes it in. They weigh timeliness and attendance very high.rb924119 wrote:jmanley32 wrote:I understand you cannot give amounts nor even wind numbers but is it possible NYC area could see 60 plus mph gusts? Or even higher? Nam looks that way yes it's 850 level I understand but even half what's shown it's 30 to 40 kts and gusts usually bout 15 kts higher except a few extreme ones mixed in usually. Sorry to harp on wind guys but ur giving me the ultimate of heavy snow and wind possibility. How can one not get excited? And the winds either going to happen or not and better to be prepared than not especially since they are coming from a favorable direction. Well unfavorable if u want no wind. Oh and a side note first two days of work have been good but crazy.rb924119 wrote:jmanley32 wrote:don't we want that further north? Or in this case is that not a issue.amugs wrote:Goof us coming around jet dynamics - dual streak is impressive
NO. If anything further south and east.
If you're asking ONLY if it's possible; then yes. Higher? I don't think so, unless marginally. I don't blame you one bit for the excitement.....have you not seen my posts? Lmao Idk if I've ever used so many caps before ahaha and mugsy, you know his level of excitement by how hard it s to decipher what he writes, and well, if WeatherBob's most recent post is any indication then I think we are on the right track ahahahaha love ya, mugs!! As for timing, that is still dependent upon which model you look at. Right now, I like a Thursday afternoon/evening start time, worst comes in very early Friday morning through Friday night/early Saturday morning.
I know people always say that bread and milk thing all the time, but never once in these parts, and we've been through some pretty wicked blizzards in the last 20 years, have I ever seen a mad dash by people for bread, milk and eggs. Is that a city thing, or just myth? If someone could answer in banter I'm curious if they've ever actually witnessed it.
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Nws has started hwo discussing wind concerns coastal areas and possible sig snow north. The fact that they are now saying this is encouraging. I'm thinking they will be updated to add snow of some type to coast as even 3 inches tied with winds which they say may b a 24 hr deal is pretty serious. It's also funny nws bean town has no hwo but my guess is it's being updated.
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jmanley32 wrote:so high wind warning criteria type stuff. Yeah at this time way too early to ask.anything more than if it's possible but if u asked me that's the one thing that looks to have remained pretty consistent. Yeah hopefully all our excitement isn't dashed. I need thing for sure nolocal outlet is saying snything. I think if this looks as crazy as it could be then people need to start to know tomorrow. You know bread milk and all. Well I'm go assume I have go work Fri so it's def go b a test of my attendance. Luckily I'm pretty close by and it will look good if I am one of the few that makes it in. They weigh timeliness and attendance very high.rb924119 wrote:jmanley32 wrote:I understand you cannot give amounts nor even wind numbers but is it possible NYC area could see 60 plus mph gusts? Or even higher? Nam looks that way yes it's 850 level I understand but even half what's shown it's 30 to 40 kts and gusts usually bout 15 kts higher except a few extreme ones mixed in usually. Sorry to harp on wind guys but ur giving me the ultimate of heavy snow and wind possibility. How can one not get excited? And the winds either going to happen or not and better to be prepared than not especially since they are coming from a favorable direction. Well unfavorable if u want no wind. Oh and a side note first two days of work have been good but crazy.rb924119 wrote:jmanley32 wrote:don't we want that further north? Or in this case is that not a issue.amugs wrote:Goof us coming around jet dynamics - dual streak is impressive
NO. If anything further south and east.
If you're asking ONLY if it's possible; then yes. Higher? I don't think so, unless marginally. I don't blame you one bit for the excitement.....have you not seen my posts? Lmao Idk if I've ever used so many caps before ahaha and mugsy, you know his level of excitement by how hard it s to decipher what he writes, and well, if WeatherBob's most recent post is any indication then I think we are on the right track ahahahaha love ya, mugs!! As for timing, that is still dependent upon which model you look at. Right now, I like a Thursday afternoon/evening start time, worst comes in very early Friday morning through Friday night/early Saturday morning.
Oh absolutely, in my opinion. That's why I cannot believe for the life of me that they are being so laxadaisical about this and dropped the HWO's last night. If nothing else the wind will be there. But think some big snow too. To not even be mentioning the remote possibility is ridiculous to me, but hey, I'm just a measley peasant ahaha and of course no other outlet is saying anything......Model huggers -_- lol
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jmanley32 wrote:Nws has started hwo discussing wind concerns coastal areas and possible sig snow north. The fact that they are now saying this is encouraging. I'm thinking they will be updated to add snow of some type to coast as even 3 inches tied with winds which they say may b a 24 hr deal is pretty serious. It's also funny nws bean town has no hwo but my guess is it's being updated.
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