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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:25 pm

@docstox12 wrote:
@SENJsnowman wrote:Holy low sun angle Batman! Literally looks to be at 45*. Guess it Aint very ‘high noon’  today. Now for some snow for this low angle to not interfere with...

I noticed that the other day SENJ! This is the time of the year for that to happen.

It's just another reason I love front loaded winters.

The sun angle from late November to late January puts snow melt at a minimum even when temperatures approach 40. As opposed to early April sun angles where a 40 degree day will melt a half foot of snow by late afternoon.
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Post by docstox12 on Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:09 pm

@CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
@docstox12 wrote:
@SENJsnowman wrote:Holy low sun angle Batman! Literally looks to be at 45*. Guess it Aint very ‘high noon’  today. Now for some snow for this low angle to not interfere with...

I noticed that the other day SENJ! This is the time of the year for that to happen.

It's just another reason I love front loaded winters.

The sun angle from late November to late January puts snow melt at a minimum even when temperatures approach 40. As opposed to early April sun angles where a 40 degree day will melt a half foot of snow by late afternoon.

Good point, CP,that is always good for an extended snowpack and with front end loaded winters, there is one.
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Post by SENJsnowman on Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:17 pm

After last year’s Jan blizzard, I still had 6” of snow over 2 weeks later.

It does make for some tough driving though!

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Post by SoulSingMG on Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:28 pm

Flood Watches already up from Mount Holly. Absolute DELUGE coming Friday.
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Post by GreyBeard on Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:36 pm

NWS forecast for my area has temps rising with incoming rain Thursday night to 54°,then Friday up to 58° with anywhere between 1-3 inches of rain. That should really put me in the holiday mood No santa

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Post by jmanley32 on Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:43 pm

@SoulSingMG wrote:Flood Watches already up from Mount Holly. Absolute DELUGE coming Friday.
Yet Frank stated less than an inch....NWS is saying 1-3 locally more. Euro is also showing HWW criteria winds for a 12 hr period, as we know these usually do not verify but as the NWS stated "strong LP" I think there will be a wind component, so ya Thursday- friday night is gonna suck.
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Post by weatherwatchermom on Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:43 am

25* rf 20* ...last night winds woke me up..tonight it's the brightness of the full moon.... Sad I need to sleep
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Post by Frank_Wx on Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:15 am

It looks like NYC is in the bullseye of the rain on Friday. The GFS has widespread 2+ inch rain amounts, while the NAM (shown below) concentrates the heavy rain over NYC and points N&E.

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The NAM also shuts rain off by 8pm Friday. Looks like 1-2 inches of rain for many with 2+ amounts over NYC and some points just west and east of there.

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Post by SENJsnowman on Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:22 am

2-3 inches for the whole Shore also- from the Hook all the way down past AC.

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Post by weatherwatchermom on Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:48 pm

@SENJsnowman wrote:2-3 inches for the whole Shore also- from the Hook all the way down past AC.
it's crazy..we average at least an inch a storm...
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Post by skinsfan1177 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:52 pm

Could be thunderstorms and tornado watches posted tommorow
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Post by skinsfan1177 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:54 pm

Look at this 3k nam run. That's juicy and potent for this time of year.December 2018 Observations and Discussions - Page 7 Nam3km10
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Post by GreyBeard on Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:16 pm

@weatherwatchermom wrote:25* rf 20* ...last night winds woke me up..tonight it's the brightness of the full moon.... Sad      I need to sleep

Try a shot of zzzquil. Not habit forming and it works. Has a nice warm grapey taste.

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:19 pm

If it wasn’t for Franks post in The LR I would be out beginning THE PURGE. If the forecast verifies for Friday I will have near 5” qpf for the month of December IMBY In A below normal temp month WITH ZERO SNOW. This is statistically impossible except for 2018. If the LR doesn’t work out I might ........///././//////......

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:22 pm

If it wasn’t for Franks post I. The LR I would be out beginning THE PURGE. If the forecast verifies for Friday I will have near 5” qpf for the month of December IMBY In A below normal temp month WITH ZERO SNOW. This is statistically impossible except for 2018. If the LR doesn’t work out I might ........///././//////......

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Post by SoulSingMG on Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:41 pm

We're ALL under a flood watch now.

321 PM EST Wed Dec 19 2018

...FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH LATE
FRIDAY NIGHT...

The National Weather Service in Upton has issued a

* Flood Watch for portions of southern Connecticut, northeast
New Jersey, and southeast New York, including the following
areas, in southern Connecticut, Northern Fairfield, Northern
Middlesex, Northern New Haven, Northern New London, Southern
Fairfield, Southern Middlesex, Southern New Haven, and
Southern New London. In northeast New Jersey, Eastern Bergen,
Eastern Essex, Eastern Passaic, Eastern Union, Hudson, Western
Bergen, Western Essex, Western Passaic, and Western Union. In
southeast New York, Bronx, Kings (Brooklyn), New York
(Manhattan), Northeastern Suffolk, Northern Nassau, Northern
Queens, Northern Westchester, Northwestern Suffolk, Orange,
Putnam, Richmond (Staten Island), Rockland, Southeastern
Suffolk, Southern Nassau, Southern Queens, Southern
Westchester, and Southwestern Suffolk.

* From late Thursday night through late Friday night

* An area of low pressure moving up the spine of the Appalachians
Thursday into Friday will result in a widespread 2 to 3 inch
rainfall across the region. The rain could be heavy at times,
especially late Thursday night into Friday.

* The heavy rain will result in the potential for flooding of
urban, low lying, and poor drainage areas, as well as minor
river flooding on fast responding streams. In addition, flooding
concerns could be exacerbated along the coast if the heaviest
rain coincided with the Friday morning high tide.

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:48 pm

So freakin exciting

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Post by frank 638 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:55 pm

Great couple more days till Xmas and we are talking about a rainstorm Mad Rolling Eyes what ever happened to a white Christmas

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Post by SoulSingMG on Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:02 pm

Wind Advisories (Jman lol) are now up for much of eastern NJ via Mount Holly; Upton seems err, underwhelmed by the wind potential in their forecast discussion however.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow on Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:31 pm

@SoulSingMG wrote:We're ALL under a flood watch now.

321 PM EST Wed Dec 19 2018

...FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH LATE
FRIDAY NIGHT...

The National Weather Service in Upton has issued a

* Flood Watch for portions of southern Connecticut, northeast
 New Jersey, and southeast New York, including the following
 areas, in southern Connecticut, Northern Fairfield, Northern
 Middlesex, Northern New Haven, Northern New London, Southern
 Fairfield, Southern Middlesex, Southern New Haven, and
 Southern New London. In northeast New Jersey, Eastern Bergen,
 Eastern Essex, Eastern Passaic, Eastern Union, Hudson, Western
 Bergen, Western Essex, Western Passaic, and Western Union. In
 southeast New York, Bronx, Kings (Brooklyn), New York
 (Manhattan), Northeastern Suffolk, Northern Nassau, Northern
 Queens, Northern Westchester, Northwestern Suffolk, Orange,
 Putnam, Richmond (Staten Island), Rockland, Southeastern
 Suffolk, Southern Nassau, Southern Queens, Southern
 Westchester, and Southwestern Suffolk.

* From late Thursday night through late Friday night

* An area of low pressure moving up the spine of the Appalachians
 Thursday into Friday will result in a widespread 2 to 3 inch
 rainfall across the region. The rain could be heavy at times,
 especially late Thursday night into Friday.

* The heavy rain will result in the potential for flooding of
 urban, low lying, and poor drainage areas, as well as minor
 river flooding on fast responding streams. In addition, flooding
 concerns could be exacerbated along the coast if the heaviest
 rain coincided with the Friday morning high tide.


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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:37 pm

I’m with you CP. kill me now

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Post by skinsfan1177 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:43 pm

@frank 638 wrote:Great couple more days till Xmas and we are talking about a rainstorm Mad Rolling Eyes what ever happened to a white Christmas

I posted what euro showed and if it verify its white for xmas
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Post by SoulSingMG on Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:44 pm

syosnow94 wrote:I’m with you CP. kill me now

Guyyys, c'monnnn. It's still active, notable WEATHER. Consider it Fall going out with a wet bang. Winter *officially* begins upon its departure. ;-) ;-)
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Post by algae888 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:04 pm

The odds of a white Christmas in the New York City area are quite low Mike would probably have the statistics for that but it's probably less than 20% so that is about once every 5 years I get it that it brings good feelings to have snow on Christmas but most of the time our season doesn't get started until after Christmas I mean we only averaged 4.6 in of snow in December. January and February are our months. we did have a bonus with the November storm. There's very few wall-to-wall Winters with cold and snow even 96 had the January thaw with the storm a week later. The pattern the first 15 days of December was great we were just unfortunate. It's easier to figure out the pattern it's hard to know if it's going to snow or not. My God I wonder what some of you would have done if you live through this 70s 80s and early 90s you guys would have went out of your minds
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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:31 pm

Al I did live through it and I was out of my mind. Still am

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