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My Summer Outlook 2017

Post by Isotherm on Sun May 28, 2017 10:12 pm

Somewhat truncated this year. Comments and/or questions are welcome:

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Post by frank 638 on Mon May 29, 2017 2:32 pm

thank you tom for your summer outlook i would not mind to having a cooler summer because i hate the heat esp when its hazy hot and humid.i rather have temps in the 80s with dry conditions

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Re: My Summer Outlook 2017

Post by rb924119 on Mon May 29, 2017 6:47 pm

Great outlook, Tom!!! It's definitely going to be interesting to see how this summer plays out imo, because of the possible interaction and feedback that might try to occur between the already wetter than normal ground (which is only going to get wetter over the coming 10-14 days against the norms) and the significantly below average coastal and near-shore waters off the Mid-Atlantic and New England coasts. It might end up that even July heat is thwarted a bit by troughs deepening as they approach the Northeast and feel the "effects" of these factors if they hold. Obviously based on your outlook you feel July will be able to overcome this, but you do mention the possibility again come August given the evolution of other factors. What are your thoughts?

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Post by weatherwatchermom on Mon May 29, 2017 7:23 pm

frank 638 wrote:thank you tom for your summer outlook i would not mind to having a cooler summer because i hate the heat esp when its hazy hot and humid.i rather have temps in the 80s with dry conditions

I could not agree with you more!






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Post by weatherwatchermom on Mon May 29, 2017 7:27 pm

Isotherm wrote:Somewhat truncated this year. Comments and/or questions are welcome:

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Thank you Tom!
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Post by sroc4 on Wed May 31, 2017 7:16 am

Great Write up Tom!  Ray you make some interesting points regarding the feedback regarding soil moisture content(SMC) and of course the SST influence. I'm curious what is the mechanisms behind how SMC affects the mean pattern. I've always been intruiged by this when used in early winter forecasts as well. Any insights as to how SMC influences the pattern is much appreciated. Thanks!  

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Re: My Summer Outlook 2017

Post by Isotherm on Wed May 31, 2017 2:07 pm

Thanks guys!
Scott/Ray - empirically speaking, I have found that soil moisture tends to be a fairly good correlate of temperature maxima potential, and not as much with humidity or low temperatures. Although, physically, one would tend to expect slightly more elevated lows and dew points under a wet regime. The overall Atlantic base state is still +AMO, so I think it is possible the recent shelf cooling is a function of the near term pattern, and that may reverse. The high soil moisture will reduce the percentage of solar insolation assigned to warming the BL and redirect it to drying the ground. However, given the high evapotranspiration rates at this time of year, if we were to enter a 3 to 4 week dry period, that short term soil moisture could very rapidly reverse. I don't expect that to happen due to other signals. And agree Ray, if the +ENSO signal becomes more robust with frequent pressure falls in the C tropical pacific by late summer, we may attempt to build the troughiness over the Northeast in August. So, to be honest, I am actually a bit more concerned temp departures will be lower than I forecasted rather than warmer.
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Re: My Summer Outlook 2017

Post by GreyBeard on Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:05 pm

Nice write up. You don't however mention anything concerning any tropical development. What are your thoughts on that?

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Re: My Summer Outlook 2017

Post by rb924119 on Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:47 am

Ah, ok Tom, I can see your train of thought now. Even though you see a pattern change from persistent troughiness to more progression,which will allow the AMO base state to get the nearshore waters to recover, the transience in the pattern (forced by various mechanisms) will limit the overall impact to the temperature regime from the anomalous heat flux by the +AMO base state feeding into ridging in the east and the moderating effect of continued enhanced soil moisture resulting from the transient pattern. Your forecast simply weights the larger signal of the +AMO base state slightly more than the overall synoptic pattern progression of air and land, at least for the coastal plain. As for the interior, it appears you're weighting them equally. Thanks!! It definitely makes sense, now it just comes down to watching it unfold haha

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