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Re: Observations/ Final Discussion Thread 1/2 - 1/3, 2014 Snowstorm
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11pm update: The coastal low is taking shape, just east of Norfolk, VA. It has a minimum pressure of 1000mb, but is in the process of strengthening. As it moves to the ENE as shown on this image, it will continue to strengthen. As it does so, it will throw back more moisture into NJ, DE, and eastern PA. There are two red lines which separates the light snows expected the rest of the night, the moderate snows in the middle, and heaviest bands to the east of that line into New Jersey. Ratios are very high... in some cases greater than 20:1. So you don't need a lot of precipitation/liquid equivalent to get snow to accumulate in a hurry. I have been sitting under between 15-20dbz on radar in south Allentown for several hours, yet still adding about 3/4" every hour for a total so far of 4.5" ... so although the radar looks unimpressive in some areas, it is piling up faster than you would think due to the high ratios. Snow will continue through the night at similar intensity, and as the low pressure moves to the 2nd position (996mb) the radar will increase in intensity all the way back to the moderate areas we have indicated, and then as the system pulls away, snow will end from west to east from between 4am (far west) to as late as 10am (far eastern NJ) ...
11pm update: The coastal low is taking shape, just east of Norfolk, VA. It has a minimum pressure of 1000mb, but is in the process of strengthening. As it moves to the ENE as shown on this image, it will continue to strengthen. As it does so, it will throw back more moisture into NJ, DE, and eastern PA. There are two red lines which separates the light snows expected the rest of the night, the moderate snows in the middle, and heaviest bands to the east of that line into New Jersey. Ratios are very high... in some cases greater than 20:1. So you don't need a lot of precipitation/liquid equivalent to get snow to accumulate in a hurry. I have been sitting under between 15-20dbz on radar in south Allentown for several hours, yet still adding about 3/4" every hour for a total so far of 4.5" ... so although the radar looks unimpressive in some areas, it is piling up faster than you would think due to the high ratios. Snow will continue through the night at similar intensity, and as the low pressure moves to the 2nd position (996mb) the radar will increase in intensity all the way back to the moderate areas we have indicated, and then as the system pulls away, snow will end from west to east from between 4am (far west) to as late as 10am (far eastern NJ) ...
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Wow, bullish on the 10am end time for eastern sections.
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north babylon 18f heavy snow...
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Frank are you still confident with the totals on your snow map
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FRANK: will heavier snow bands occur soon over MANHATTAN? It's been lighter for the most part...
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Dropped a degree. 25 with heavy snow.
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Just dropped to 16!
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4.5 moderate snow to cold to measure again.
2.7 inches at 10:45 that will have to be it for the night. Hoping to finish with 8-10 inches tommorow and I'll be happy. Hope someone on Jersey coast or LI hits the jackpot over 12, I'm pretty sure several will.
2.7 inches at 10:45 that will have to be it for the night. Hoping to finish with 8-10 inches tommorow and I'll be happy. Hope someone on Jersey coast or LI hits the jackpot over 12, I'm pretty sure several will.
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the 4.5 above was temperature not inches, moderate snow still.
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I need that heavy precip down near ACY to get up here ASAP....
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I posted it for u if you saw. Anyway 18.6 and light snow.. heavy snow about to move inMets2695 wrote:Just dropped to 16!
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Artechmetals wrote:Frank are you still confident with the totals on your snow map
For sure
SoulSingMG wrote:FRANK: will heavier snow bands occur soon over MANHATTAN? It's been lighter for the most part...
For sure
Radar is going to look really good between 2-4am with heavy banding
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Mt. Holly added a 10-14" area to their map now.
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Great, thanks Frank. I'm at work -- run a bar in Manhattan so I'll be checking in alllllllll night/am. Lol
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Mets2695 wrote:Mt. Holly added a 10-14" area to their map now.
I have a 10-15 area since yesterday. Little late to the party.
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upton still at 6-8 and 8-10
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SoulSingMG wrote:Great, thanks Frank. I'm at work -- run a bar in Manhattan so I'll be checking in alllllllll night/am. Lol
Sounds like fun. Lol
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The NWS offices are usually a little late with accums. But discussion wise they are excellent usually.Frank_Wx wrote:Mets2695 wrote:Mt. Holly added a 10-14" area to their map now.
I have a 10-15 area since yesterday. Little late to the party.
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12.2 Degrees Moderate snow in Wayne, NJ. Darn Cold. 2 inches even measured on my back deck.
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Moderate snow 2.5" and just changed the batteries in my thermometer waiting for it to hit temp outside. Can hear the winds outside.
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Went outside to get a quick measure. Mean i found in places un-effected by wind is about 5.5. Because the wind is blowing crazy right now, measurements might be screwed up.
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4.3 degrees, moderate snow. I may be below zero by morning, and hopefully still snowing.
I can't say I've seen that many times in my life.
I can't say I've seen that many times in my life.
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12 degrees and 2" even -
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Frank that looks promising!
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