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Post by docstox12 Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:16 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:In other news, WINTER OUTLOOK TOMORROW MORNING!!!! bounce bounce cheers cheers affraid affraid king

Been waiting a long time for this! Gonna be the highlight of my evening reading your great work Frank!

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:21 pm

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jmanley32 wrote:As expected dunzoo, I do not have my own temp guage but closest observation station shows 343 degrees, earlier it was 38.  So the system is def coming in warm.  It's ok, still looking hopefully to something next Sat, not going to be a fun week to be outside especially tuesday with those howling winds.

343 degrees? My God Jman get the hell out of there you'll fry. I need you alive to track Tuesday mornings winds which are going to cause my heart to stop on the trip home Tuesday morning. I'm already dreading it.

What time is your flight?

Leaves Atlanta 10:00am Tuesday morning.

Have no worries CP. Winds will not be bad that morning and no precip. is expected

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From your mouth to Gods ears Frank, and more often than not when it involves you and weather forecasting that seems to be the case.

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Post by jmanley32 Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:21 pm

Those are sustained kts and the coast is 18-22 kts with higher gusts.  Its not terrible but I imagine coming down may be a bit bumpy. But like the others say even if it is it will be clear and nothing to worry about.
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Post by jmanley32 Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:22 pm

yes cannot wait to see your outlook Frank.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:22 pm

jmanley32 wrote:I can remember coming back from DC to NYC and man did we hit turbulance, pilot said a little jesus, and it it was a small plane, my handprints were in the arm rests lol

Jman, I can relate, been there a few times.
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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:25 pm

jmanley32 wrote:Those are sustained kts and the coast is 18-22 kts with higher gusts.  Its not terrible but I imagine coming down may be a bit bumpy. But like the others say even if it is it will be clear and nothing to worry about.

But that is also 850 mb level. At the surface those gusts will not translate.

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Post by amugs Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:31 pm

39*/30* dew point - not looking forward to a rainy Monday BUT extremely excited and looking forward to Frank's winter forecast and what time does it commence - 12:01AM or 8AM????

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Post by jmanley32 Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:31 pm

Those are 10m winds thats the same as 850mb?
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Post by jmanley32 Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:34 pm

850mb winds are over 30kts sustained, if I am not mistaken.  Not trying to argue you but I always thought 10m winds were surface.



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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:39 pm

jmanley32 wrote:Those are 10m winds thats the same as 850mb?

Wait, no. 10 meters is different. 10 M means about 10 M from the ground. I'm not sure what 10 meters is in terms of feet.

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Post by jmanley32 Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:40 pm

Look at CT RI and MA 850hpa, dang, now those I know are the winds way up in atmosphere, Ryan Maue and I actually talked on twitter about this.  Those translate down to about what the map you posted Frank. 10m winds in kts.  Again if I am wrong feel free to correct me.

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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:41 pm

jmanley32 wrote:850mb winds are over 30kts sustained, if I am not mistaken.  Not trying to argue you but I always thought 10m winds were surface.



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Yup, this is right. So 10M = 36 feet from the ground. So technically that would be the surface but I still take away a bit because the best winds translate when there is greatest instability, or precip falling.

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Post by jmanley32 Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:41 pm

10 meters is about 32 feet, thats what I am saying its gonna be dang windy!
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Post by jmanley32 Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:45 pm

It actually 32 feet 9 inches if you use a converter, which I did lol
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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:46 pm

Yea, probably 15-20 mph sustained and gusts near 30 mph. Wind chills are going to be in the teens. Ouch

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Post by jmanley32 Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:47 pm

IMO it will be higher and other places I have looked have gusts to 45mph, higher on LI, we will see.  But either way gonna be like January dang.
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Post by Vinnydula Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:02 pm

Sleet 40 mixing with some snow
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Post by Snow88 Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:35 pm

0z Nam has temps in the upper 20s for NYC on Tuesday. 4k Nam has temps in the teens for lows in NYC Wednesday morning.

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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:40 pm

Too cold for me in November.

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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:50 pm

Hey look, it's snowing Smile Very Happy

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Post by docstox12 Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:37 am

36.3 degrees, 86% humidity, 30.01 falling.Light rain.Never got the frozen precip, temp did not get to freezing or below.That's fine with me, make it all rain or all snow, no slop!
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Post by amugs Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:49 am

37.6* and a cold rain - yuck!!

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Post by docstox12 Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:38 am

Right, Mugsy, cold, damp, raw. Still 36.3.
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Post by jmanley32 Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:30 am

Frank got the icezilla up. Omg worst day cold raining and sitting in dead car wait for aaa. Fun
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Post by aiannone Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:41 am

30.8* and snowing moderately since 4am here at Lyndon State. Have about 2in now. Pics to come!

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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:09 am

aiannone wrote:30.8* and snowing moderately since 4am here at Lyndon State. Have about 2in now. Pics to come!

Niceeeeee

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Post by sroc4 Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:20 am

aiannone wrote:30.8* and snowing moderately since 4am here at Lyndon State. Have about 2in now. Pics to come!
Jealous!!

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