Re: 12/16-12/17 Godzilla: Final Snow Map & Obsevations

by **frank 638** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:05 pm

Sorry what I meant was I must got excited I would have to say it it’s a blizzard out there very windy heavy snow and lots of blowing and drifting

by **SENJsnowman** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:06 pm

frank 638 wrote:
SENJsnowman wrote:Whose getting in on this action here?
me me me lol I Would have to see it it looks like a blizzard outside heavy snow very windy and I noticed the snowflakes were huge now it’s normal snow flake

That’s awesome to hear!! I hope it snows like crazy for you all night long man!!

by **billg315** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:06 pm

Zhukov1945 wrote:
billg315 wrote:Man, the sleet is pounding my window, but still a ton of big fluffy snowflakes blitzing out there. A total mix of snow and sleet at the moment.

I'm just a tad north of you and you can hear it occasionally but its very intermittent. Actually kind of weird tbh, never seen a mix like that. If warm air trying to move in above its struggling to do so.

Yeah I'm not used to it. Usually when I hear this much sleet, it means the snow has completely gone over to sleet, but I'm getting like a 50-50 mix of both -- and both very heavy. Sometimes it fades completely back to snow and I don't hear the sleet at all. Then it kicks up again.

by **algae888** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:06 pm

Central Park at 8pm with .43 Le at 10 to 1 ratio that's 4.3 in but I would believe ratios are a little higher right now so they should have at least five or more inches

by **Frank_Wx** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:07 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:We're at a critical moment. The low has to soon decide does it stay N-NW or N-NE. I overlaid the most recent GFS, NAM and HRRR tracks on the current observations. For some locations, this is the difference between 3 inches or 10, 6 inches or 12, 12 inches or 18, etc. The 18z NAM was an absolute whopper with blitzing snow, and it happens to be in between the GFS/HRRR.

Meanwhile, an impressive upper level jet streak has developed over New England. Between this feature and the HP, I feel pretty good about the low taking a more eastern track. I think the GFS is way off, but time will tell.

Keep this in mind...

12/16-12/17 Godzilla: Final Snow Map & Obsevations - Page 20 Path

by **CPcantmeasuresnow** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:10 pm

Didn't start in earnest until 6:30 here and the 8 pm measurement 2.2 inches at 19.6 degrees.

This stuff is accumulating quickly. Gonna try to take hourly measurements to just see how intense these bands are.

by **Scullybutcher** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:10 pm

3 inches
29.7 degrees

by **billg315** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:10 pm

No sooner do I speak than I go over almost entirely to sleet. And it is a wind driven sleet. If I poked my head outside right now I'd have no skin left on my face. So I won't.

by **SENJsnowman** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:10 pm

frank 638 wrote:
SENJsnowman wrote:Whose getting in on this action here?
me me me lol I Would have to see it it looks like a blizzard outside heavy snow very windy and I noticed the snowflakes were huge now it’s normal snow flake

That’s awesome to hear!! I hope it snows like crazy for you all night long man!!

by **RJB8525** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:11 pm

Hearing sleet

by **CPcantmeasuresnow** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:14 pm

algae888 wrote:Central Park at 8pm with .43 Le at 10 to 1 ratio that's 4.3 in but I would believe ratios are a little higher right now so they should have at least five or more inches

Good theorizing Al but as you well know what falls in the Park often doesn't agree to what they officially post.

Let's hope for the best.

by **CPcantmeasuresnow** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:16 pm

billg315 wrote:No sooner do I speak than I go over almost entirely to sleet. And it is a wind driven sleet. If I poked my head outside right now I'd have no skin left on my face. So I won't.

But say you do, could you post pictures just to prove your point.

by **SENJsnowman** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:16 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:We're at a critical moment. The low has to soon decide does it stay N-NW or N-NE. I overlaid the most recent GFS, NAM and HRRR tracks on the current observations. For some locations, this is the difference between 3 inches or 10, 6 inches or 12, 12 inches or 18, etc. The 18z NAM was an absolute whopper with blitzing snow, and it happens to be in between the GFS/HRRR.

Meanwhile, an impressive upper level jet streak has developed over New England. Between this feature and the HP, I feel pretty good about the low taking a more eastern track. I think the GFS is way off, but time will tell.

Keep this in mind...

Can’t wait to put these kids to bed and then see what happens. “North East! North East!”

by **billg315** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:17 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
billg315 wrote:No sooner do I speak than I go over almost entirely to sleet. And it is a wind driven sleet. If I poked my head outside right now I'd have no skin left on my face. So I won't.

But say you do, could you post pictures just to prove your point.

If I take that drastic step, I'll post pictures. You know, for science. Assuming the damage to my eyes allows me to still operate my phone's camera.

by **crippo84** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:23 pm

12/16-12/17 Godzilla: Final Snow Map & Obsevations - Page 20 Abd10c10

Perfect time to go view the tree!

by **Frank_Wx** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:24 pm

crippo84 wrote:

Perfect time to go view the tree!

Absolutely perfect picture

by **phil155** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:26 pm

Seems like a bit of a dry slot is headed this way

by **Frank_Wx** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:29 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:
crippo84 wrote:

Perfect time to go view the tree!

Absolutely perfect picture

Tweeted it!!!

Oh Christmas Tree pic.twitter.com/syAnOqOrjE
— Francesco Paparatto (@nj_strong_wx) December 17, 2020

by **heehaw453** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:29 pm

7.5" here so far. Warm nose at about 800mb mixed the snow with pingers. Soundings said it would be 32 but must have been a hair over. Once a snow crystal melts you don't get it back LOL. All other layers plenty cold.

Hopefully I can get some more as the storm pulls a bit further away.

by **billg315** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:31 pm

heehaw453 wrote:7.5" here so far. Warm nose at about 800mb mixed the snow with pingers. Soundings said it would be 32 but must have been a hair over. Once a snow crystal melts you don't get it back LOL. All other layers plenty cold.

Hopefully I can get some more as the storm pulls a bit further away.

Same boat here. Also getting a little bit of the dry slot here. Hoping to go back to snow later in the evening.

by **Dunnzoo** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:37 pm

Just got 2" this past hour, up to 4.25", totally puking snow!

by **dkodgis** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:37 pm

Not doing much up here. Maybe a couple of inches. 18 degrees. I thought we’d see a big storm. So far it has not shown up

by **Irish** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:40 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:Wow just heard that Manalapan, NJ is already 7-8 inches. Is that true?

Yes that's basically me a I'm old Bridge.

by **amugs** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:41 pm

Puking snow 2" in the last hour!

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by **Frank_Wx** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:43 pm

Models nailed this dry slot

Radar looks pretty 'ok' but we'll need to give it a little and see if precip fills in, and where the low decides to track to

by **billg315** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:44 pm

Look at that: Dry slot shows up right where the models had it on last nights runs. It does appear to be rather small and possibly filling in so maybe it’s a brief setback.

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by **billg315** Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:45 pm

Lol Frank. Great minds think alike.

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