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Post by docstox12 Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:39 pm

But too often for my liking Jim.I wish we could get a phase with southern stream energy form the gulf and have a big one come up the coast hitting us for a change.Don't know why the southern energy has been blocked off this winter.?

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Post by jimv45 Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:45 pm

you are right docs those are the ones i grew up to coming up the coast with that nice high to the north and inside the benchmark boom.

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:47 pm

docstox12 wrote:Yep, saw Bernie Rayno's explanation and we will definitely get a few inches but it's the same story.These clippers develop too late for our area but always blast NE.It's always been that way.

Patterns change Doc, if you remember there was a 6 week period last year the clippers were blowing up and nailing us and then it suddenly stopped and went south.

Every storm can't nail you know where, can it? It's freakin unheard of already.
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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:00 pm

I'll be making the first update to the Thursday storm within the next hour. I also ask that all Boston talk be kept in banter. This is a PA/NJ/NY/CT forum Smile

What's going on there is imlressive, no doubt. I myself amazed and will continue to talk about them in banter.

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:00 pm

jimv45 wrote:Bernie Rayno using the b word plus big snows north of Ny City if the american model is right for Thursday night!!

Saw the video hour and a half ago.  What's all the fuss?  He said no big snows in NYC metro area.  Maybe a couple of inches.  B might get a blizzard, but he said they get 6" minimum.  F ME!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by RJB8525 Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:05 pm

i know, just something more depressing at this current state
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Post by skinsfan1177 Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:06 pm

Why are so many not believing its Monday Night trends have been west on the gfs never say never patterns do change
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Post by SoulSingMG Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:09 pm

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jimv45 wrote:Bernie Rayno using the b word plus big snows north of Ny City if the american model is right for Thursday night!!

Saw the video hour and a half ago.  What's all the fuss?  He said no big snows in NYC metro area.  Maybe a couple of inches.  B might get a blizzard, but he said they get 6" minimum.  F ME!!!!!!!!!!

I'm surprised he would write us off before more guidance comes in.
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Post by skinsfan1177 Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:13 pm

SoulSingMG wrote:
syosnow94 wrote:
jimv45 wrote:Bernie Rayno using the b word plus big snows north of Ny City if the american model is right for Thursday night!!

Saw the video hour and a half ago.  What's all the fuss?  He said no big snows in NYC metro area.  Maybe a couple of inches.  B might get a blizzard, but he said they get 6" minimum.  F ME!!!!!!!!!!

I'm surprised he would write us off before more guidance comes in.


Exactly right Soul I don't get it. Patterns change and this may be a time where it does. We just saw a shift west in gfs and people are writing it off.
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Post by Math23x7 Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:19 pm

skinsfan1177 wrote:Why are so many not believing its Monday Night trends have been west on the gfs never say never patterns do change

I think a lot of us are now under the "I'll believe it when I see it" mindset. There have numerous potentials for "Godzillas" and even "Roidzillas" this winter and for areas from CPK westward, they have yet to get one. I think because of the disappointments they've experienced the last few month's, we now expect the same going forward.

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Post by docstox12 Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:23 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
docstox12 wrote:Yep, saw Bernie Rayno's explanation and we will definitely get a few inches but it's the same story.These clippers develop too late for our area but always blast NE.It's always been that way.

Patterns change Doc, if you remember there was a 6 week period last year the clippers were blowing up and nailing us and then it suddenly stopped and went south.

Every storm can't nail you know where, can it? It's freakin unheard of  already.

Here's hoping CP that the pattern changes now.I'm not complaining, though, we've had a 9 incher, 7.5 incher and an 11 and 5.6 recently.Lot's of great action.Just would love to see a Miller A bomb of 20 plus this year, guess that's why I'm frustrated with this clipper stuff.
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Post by Guest Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:24 pm

Math23x7 wrote:
skinsfan1177 wrote:Why are so many not believing its Monday Night trends have been west on the gfs never say never patterns do change

I think a lot of us are now under the "I'll believe it when I see it" mindset.  There have numerous potentials for "Godzillas" and even "Roidzillas" this winter and for areas from CPK westward, they have yet to get one.  I think because of the disappointments they've experienced the last few month's, we now expect the same going forward.

Well said Bellerose buddy, and I've gotten above average snowfall for the season and am still jaded.

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Post by skinsfan1177 Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:28 pm

Math23x7 wrote:
skinsfan1177 wrote:Why are so many not believing its Monday Night trends have been west on the gfs never say never patterns do change

I think a lot of us are now under the "I'll believe it when I see it" mindset.  There have numerous potentials for "Godzillas" and even "Roidzillas" this winter and for areas from CPK westward, they have yet to get one.  I think because of the disappointments they've experienced the last few month's, we now expect the same going forward.



I understand that completely for my area here and Ace we had the one event of significance the blizzard that never came to be here but still snuck in 11 inches and its been a little here and their and lots of rain. But something has to give that's my mindset and this upcoming pattern and events may deliver. We know the cold is coming now we need the storm and it just may.
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Post by Grselig Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:47 pm

I know this belongs in banter, but this winter for many of us its the boy who cried wolf. I am now conditioned to believe that snow is minimal until it actually falls. in Wayne today we had zero accumulation! I know if fact that this could change at any storm.
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Post by jmanley32 Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:58 pm

Rayno is good but too early to write it off for us in NYC area IMO.
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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:59 pm

Thread is up

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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:13 pm

The GFS for the weekend shows the inverted trough. Temps in the single digits with snow showers. Ratios at least 40:1.

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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:16 pm

Wow

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Close H5 over the lakes. Huge inverted trough signature.

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Post by Yschiff Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:22 pm

Could you post the GFS snowfall totals for the weekend storm?

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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:23 pm

High temps on Sunday

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Post by aiannone Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:43 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:High temps on Sunday

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Frank, that is 7pm Sunday temps, little past the high temp for the day.

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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:45 pm

aiannone wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:High temps on Sunday

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Frank, that is 7pm Sunday temps, little past the high temp for the day.

I know I thought it was 18z at first. But even in the early afternoon temps are below 0.

Insane.

How much snow you get this storm?

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Post by jmanley32 Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:22 am

Frank so even if we got .5 qpf out of the week end snow we could forseeably see 20 inches of snow?! 40:1 thats insane, do you actually see this verifying, imagine if it hit dead on and we get like 1-2 qpf we would be buffalo, and everyone on here would be praising the snow gods. Those temps are scary, windchills will be of the artic type, extremely dangerous. I see either delayed or no school monday morning just for the cold alone.
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Post by jmanley32 Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:24 am

Frank_Wx wrote:Wow

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Close H5 over the lakes. Huge inverted trough signature.

does this mean we have a chance for this system to hit us? Its a beast, and the winds will be howling, at least thats what models show. Yikes again on the tempos saw windchills -20 to -40!
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Post by jmanley32 Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:29 am

Frank_Wx wrote:The GFS for the weekend shows the inverted trough. Temps in the single digits with snow showers. Ratios at least 40:1.

SO GFS shows almost .3-.5 qpf around these parts for sat/sun, so that would translate to 12-20 inches, so a godzilla on the low end? How is that possible with snow showers.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:36 am

jmanley32 wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:The GFS for the weekend shows the inverted trough. Temps in the single digits with snow showers. Ratios at least 40:1.

SO GFS shows almost .3-.5 qpf around these parts for sat/sun, so that would translate to 12-20 inches, so a godzilla on the low end? How is that possible with snow showers.

Please stop, you're killing these things before they can even breathe. Very Happy
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Post by jmanley32 Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:38 am

Lol I've just never heard of a 40 to 1 ratio that's nuts. 06z run has the weekend storm ever so close it has the Rediculous cold high winds now we just need the precip closer I see sat being more a threat than thurs.
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