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Post by Frank_Wx Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:01 am

00z EURO Ensembles

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Post by billg315 Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:13 am

I’ve been looking at this April 7 time frame for over a week and other than a couple model run hiccups here or there, there hasn’t been a time when it didn’t look to have great potential. Now down to three days out I think we can say it’s officially moved from speculation realm to legit threat. Timing as always in April is key for accumulation but there is no shortage of cold air for this.

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Post by sroc4 Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:05 am

NAM

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Post by oldtimer Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:32 am

Sroc That's without a phase?

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:34 am

sroc4 wrote:NAM

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We should probably open up a thread for this. Someone on this forum looks likely to get accumulating snow from it.
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Post by jmanley32 Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:48 am

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
sroc4 wrote:NAM

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We should probably open up a thread for this. Someone on this forum looks likely to get accumulating snow from it.
someone that's almost everyone! Jeeze crazy
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Post by Smittyaj623 Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:00 am

And the shore? Please I can’t keep living with all this hype and get nothing again. Should be cold enough correct? We have plenty of cold air to play with.

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Post by sroc4 Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:45 am

Smittyaj623 wrote:And the shore? Please I can’t keep living with all this hype and get nothing again. Should be cold enough correct? We have plenty of cold air to play with.

No hype smitty. This is a snow storm in April. If this storm happens like the NAM showed verbatim it will accumulate for many on our form. In your back yard??? I dont know yet. So when you live along the NJ shore and its April you keep expectations low.

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Post by sroc4 Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:47 am

oldtimer wrote:Sroc   That's without a phase?

Yes

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Post by heehaw453 Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:58 am

12Z GFS outputs very healthy snow amounts for many on order of 6"-12". The 850's are very cold (-5 to -10) and even surface temperature below freezing. I can only hope this pans out.

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Post by amugs Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:03 pm

THIS IS insane - GFS SNOWFALL AMOUNTS ARE A SECS TO MECS FOR SOME AREAS - COLD TOO AS HEEHAW HAS POINTED OUT!
DID I SAY OTHER DAY HISTORIC TIMEFRAME /APRIL - COULD VERY WELL BE!

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ZOO LOOK OUR SCREW ZONE IS HERE TOOO - CAN MAKE THIS SUP!!!!!!!!!

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Post by amugs Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:04 pm

Look at this Northern Trend - WOW
from Alex123

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Post by jmanley32 Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:05 pm

No thread for this?
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Post by Smittyaj623 Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:35 pm

I know it’s only one model but the CMC May be onto something on the 10-11th...looks like a New England Storm rn but it’s close...

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Post by jmanley32 Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:24 pm

Theres not gonna be anymore snow, Note Frank took down all the snow index meaning he does not feel there are any threats.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:23 pm

jmanley32 wrote:Theres not gonna be anymore snow, Note Frank took down all the snow index meaning he does not feel there are any threats.

This weekend looks dead as a door knob.

I'm still holding out hope for Tuesday.
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Post by jmanley32 Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:44 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
jmanley32 wrote:Theres not gonna be anymore snow, Note Frank took down all the snow index meaning he does not feel there are any threats.

This weekend looks dead as a door knob.

I'm still holding out hope for Tuesday.
Well I hope you get snow, let it rain here, not gonna give up another day from our next school vacation for snow day.
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Post by billg315 Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:49 am

Flow becomes a little less zonal and more active the third week of April. Could make for some heavy rain events (snow well in the interior) and maybe our first severe weather outbreak(s)?
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Post by amugs Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:00 pm

This is nuts from JB
Harping on an end game storm around April17th. We get a coastal hugger  through here next Monday and behind it pulls down cold air  again and we have a storm ala 2007. 
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Post by amugs Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:33 pm

Huge BDCF =back door cold front will be sweeping through taking the 80''s to low40''s in parts of our family area from Saturday through Sunday.
And this for Monday Ice Ice baby wth??? From earthlight aka JH
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Post by Math23x7 Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:01 pm

Before anyone says "Worst Spring Ever", let's go back to 2003:

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Here are a more date specific temperature anomaly (March 31st to June 22nd) with temperature anomalies in Kelvin as opposed to Fahrenheit:

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And here is the Friday to Monday of Memorial Day weekend (23rd to 26th).  In NYC, the highest temperature during those four days was 62 degrees(!)  It was overcast/rainy the whole time:

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:18 pm

Math23x7 wrote:Before anyone says "Worst Spring Ever", let's go back to 2003:

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Here are a more date specific temperature anomaly (March 31st to June 22nd) with temperature anomalies in Kelvin as opposed to Fahrenheit:

Long Range Thread 16.0 - Page 33 Spring12

And here is the Friday to Monday of Memorial Day weekend (23rd to 26th).  In NYC, the highest temperature during those four days was 62 degrees(!)  It was overcast/rainy the whole time:

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Best Spring ever. It's all how you view things.
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Post by Math23x7 Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:36 pm

amugs wrote:This is nuts from JB
Harping on an end game storm around April17th. We get a coastal hugger  through here next Monday and behind it pulls down cold air  again and we have a storm ala 2007. 
GEFS show this

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Two years ago, when it was very chilly in spring, Frank put "Worst Spring Ever" on the banner crawl

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Post by dkodgis Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:21 pm

The trend north from guidance “looks” waaaay north in a hurry. I’d be pleased to see some pink move back down a bit toward us. The temps will determine our fates
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Post by Snow88 Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:28 pm

Icestorm for Central and New England on the Euro
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Post by dkodgis Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:19 am

And so...peekng ahead four days.:..what are we looking at?
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Post by Fededle22 Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:12 pm

I know a lot or people are still looking for more snow but I just can't take this cold anymore. Do we know when we are at least going to be at normal temperatures? Above normal? I'm not expecting Friday and Saturday temps but upper 60s would be nice.
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