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12/17 Re-developing Clipper Storm

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Post by Frank_Wx Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:06 pm

Models have been showing a possible clipper storm early next week, specifically for Tuesday. Another one to keep an eye on. Here is 12z GGEM

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Post by aiannone Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:20 pm

Keep brining on the snow!

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Post by pdubz Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:34 pm

any other models seeing this clipper also?
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Post by Frank_Wx Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:36 pm

12/17 Re-developing Clipper Storm Nam-mslp-qpf6-ne_hr72

00z NAM has the clipper event as well

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Post by Frank_Wx Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:40 pm

Here is some background on "clippers" in my own words for those who do not know what they are:

In essence, clippers are northern stream based systems that eject out of the polar jet stream and move rapidly along the jet to produce quick-hitting snow. Once they approach the coast, sometimes they have the tendency to strengthen because they run into cut-off from the jet stream and organize into a storm that has a defined low pressure system.

This is what we are looking at for Tuesday. How far south it gets is what we are trying to look for. A lot of these benefit New England the most, but NYC also gets into some action.

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Post by amugs Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:02 pm

Good explanation of clippers and let's hope it dives a little more south by about 25 miles  Very Happy 

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Post by aiannone Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:15 pm

NWS has this all rain for me on LI, yet this looks very cold.

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Post by Frank_Wx Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:41 pm

00z GGEM has moderate snow for this system

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Post by aiannone Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:44 pm

Looks like a rain to snow at the coast.

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Post by Math23x7 Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:35 am

The 12Z RGEM still has the snow for early Tuesday morning...

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Post by oldtimer Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:48 am

Looks like another snow changing to rain deal

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Post by amugs Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:56 am

Math23x7 wrote:The 12Z RGEM still has the snow for early Tuesday morning...

Here we go again - looks like 2" possible for the N& W burbs outside the city - city looks to be snow then changes over to rain as well as the Island.

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GFS takes the little bugger a bit further south than last nights run and out towards the benchmark I95 special?? We shall see….

Reminds me a lot of 1993-94 so far with this active and cold pattern.

Oh and for what it is worth - I'll put it in the along range.

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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:34 am

The GFS has 2-4 inches with wave 1 then another 1-3 with wave 2. Magical December so far...

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Post by mako460 Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:58 am

What's the timimg for this one?

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Post by docstox12 Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:05 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:The GFS has 2-4 inches with wave 1 then another 1-3 with wave 2. Magical December so far...

Snowy years like '93-'94 and '95-'96 keep turning out snowstorm after snowstorm, big and small.Great patterns for this area.

So far, so good for this year.8 inches in the books in Mahwah, nearly 1/4 the average year total.The key will be how fast the snowy pattern re-sets after the weekend warmup.
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Post by HectorO Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:17 pm

docstox12 wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:The GFS has 2-4 inches with wave 1 then another 1-3 with wave 2. Magical December so far...

Snowy years like '93-'94 and '95-'96 keep turning out snowstorm after snowstorm, big and small.Great patterns for this area.

So far, so good for this year.8 inches in the books in Mahwah, nearly 1/4 the average year total.The key will be how fast the snowy pattern re-sets after the weekend warmup.

Yea, looks like the first days of winter solstice will start off warm. As the week progresses it will be a little easier to see what type of week it will be the week of Christmas.
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Post by dad4twoboys Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:25 pm

docstox12 wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:The GFS has 2-4 inches with wave 1 then another 1-3 with wave 2. Magical December so far...

Snowy years like '93-'94 and '95-'96 keep turning out snowstorm after snowstorm, big and small.Great patterns for this area.

So far, so good for this year.8 inches in the books in Mahwah, nearly 1/4 the average year total.The key will be how fast the snowy pattern re-sets after the weekend warmup.

Hello Doc

I thought 92-93 was the stormy... snow to liquid to ice winter (something like 17 storms (tons of freezing rain))  Question 

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Post by 31MBP Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:32 pm

dad4twoboys wrote:
docstox12 wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:The GFS has 2-4 inches with wave 1 then another 1-3 with wave 2. Magical December so far...

Snowy years like '93-'94 and '95-'96 keep turning out snowstorm after snowstorm, big and small.Great patterns for this area.

So far, so good for this year.8 inches in the books in Mahwah, nearly 1/4 the average year total.The key will be how fast the snowy pattern re-sets after the weekend warmup.

Hello Doc

I thought 92-93 was the stormy... snow to liquid to ice winter (something like 17 storms (tons of freezing rain))  Question 


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Bob---Dont ask md how I remember this but.....92-93 started off with December 11th storm (worst to hit shore before Sandy), followed by the '93 Blizzard in March of that year...93-94 was similar to the way this year is starting off....lots of smaller storms, action, two very disruptive ice events in Jan '94, and one very major snow-storm if im right....94-95 no snow, 95-96 had some humdingers....snow/sleet event a few days before Christmas.....massive Blizzard of '96 first week of January are the ones that stand out to me

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Post by Dtone Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:51 pm

That Noreaster in Dec 92 was epic. Hurricane force winds. I remember every major bridge closed and flooding in lower Manhattan, water rescues on the FDR.  The flooding on the western LI sound was really bad.

http://www.hurricanes-blizzards-noreasters.com/1992noreaster.html


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Post by 31MBP Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:25 pm

ty dtone for that link....that was the storm that got me hooked, boardwalks gone, trees everywhere, huge waves, and remembered back side of the storm gave us some snow

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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:49 pm

Wow...look at that. Good stuff guys.

The EURO has the clipper event as well. Will look into this storm more thoroughly later tonight.

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Post by jmanley32 Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:10 pm

Accuweather has 1-2 inches for my area to rain. Nothing spectacular to me yet. Yonkers "city official" measurement, and I agree based on mine, total came in this morning at 6.2 inches, not bad for a December storm, well off to a normal/above normal snowfall year.
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Post by colosa4 Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:28 pm

From upton
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Post by aiannone Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:47 pm

3-5in across the NYC Metro/ LI/ SCT/ SRI this Tuesday according to the 18z NAM!
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:59 pm

Wow, I hope the NAM is right, another 2-4 to 3-5" event would be nice. BTW ended this past storm with around 5 and a half inches, was busy last night so didn't have a chance to post.
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