12/17 Re-developing Clipper Storm
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12/17 Re-developing Clipper Storm
Models have been showing a possible clipper storm early next week, specifically for Tuesday. Another one to keep an eye on. Here is 12z GGEM
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Re: 12/17 Re-developing Clipper Storm
any other models seeing this clipper also?
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00z NAM has the clipper event as well
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Here is some background on "clippers" in my own words for those who do not know what they are:
In essence, clippers are northern stream based systems that eject out of the polar jet stream and move rapidly along the jet to produce quick-hitting snow. Once they approach the coast, sometimes they have the tendency to strengthen because they run into cut-off from the jet stream and organize into a storm that has a defined low pressure system.
This is what we are looking at for Tuesday. How far south it gets is what we are trying to look for. A lot of these benefit New England the most, but NYC also gets into some action.
In essence, clippers are northern stream based systems that eject out of the polar jet stream and move rapidly along the jet to produce quick-hitting snow. Once they approach the coast, sometimes they have the tendency to strengthen because they run into cut-off from the jet stream and organize into a storm that has a defined low pressure system.
This is what we are looking at for Tuesday. How far south it gets is what we are trying to look for. A lot of these benefit New England the most, but NYC also gets into some action.
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Re: 12/17 Re-developing Clipper Storm
Good explanation of clippers and let's hope it dives a little more south by about 25 miles
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NWS has this all rain for me on LI, yet this looks very cold.
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00z GGEM has moderate snow for this system
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Looks like a rain to snow at the coast.
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Re: 12/17 Re-developing Clipper Storm
The 12Z RGEM still has the snow for early Tuesday morning...
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Looks like another snow changing to rain deal
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Math23x7 wrote:The 12Z RGEM still has the snow for early Tuesday morning...
Here we go again - looks like 2" possible for the N& W burbs outside the city - city looks to be snow then changes over to rain as well as the Island.
GFS takes the little bugger a bit further south than last nights run and out towards the benchmark I95 special?? We shall see….
Reminds me a lot of 1993-94 so far with this active and cold pattern.
Oh and for what it is worth - I'll put it in the along range.
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The GFS has 2-4 inches with wave 1 then another 1-3 with wave 2. Magical December so far...
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What's the timimg for this one?
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Frank_Wx wrote:The GFS has 2-4 inches with wave 1 then another 1-3 with wave 2. Magical December so far...
Snowy years like '93-'94 and '95-'96 keep turning out snowstorm after snowstorm, big and small.Great patterns for this area.
So far, so good for this year.8 inches in the books in Mahwah, nearly 1/4 the average year total.The key will be how fast the snowy pattern re-sets after the weekend warmup.
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docstox12 wrote:Frank_Wx wrote:The GFS has 2-4 inches with wave 1 then another 1-3 with wave 2. Magical December so far...
Snowy years like '93-'94 and '95-'96 keep turning out snowstorm after snowstorm, big and small.Great patterns for this area.
So far, so good for this year.8 inches in the books in Mahwah, nearly 1/4 the average year total.The key will be how fast the snowy pattern re-sets after the weekend warmup.
Yea, looks like the first days of winter solstice will start off warm. As the week progresses it will be a little easier to see what type of week it will be the week of Christmas.
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docstox12 wrote:Frank_Wx wrote:The GFS has 2-4 inches with wave 1 then another 1-3 with wave 2. Magical December so far...
Snowy years like '93-'94 and '95-'96 keep turning out snowstorm after snowstorm, big and small.Great patterns for this area.
So far, so good for this year.8 inches in the books in Mahwah, nearly 1/4 the average year total.The key will be how fast the snowy pattern re-sets after the weekend warmup.
Hello Doc
I thought 92-93 was the stormy... snow to liquid to ice winter (something like 17 storms (tons of freezing rain))
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dad4twoboys wrote:docstox12 wrote:Frank_Wx wrote:The GFS has 2-4 inches with wave 1 then another 1-3 with wave 2. Magical December so far...
Snowy years like '93-'94 and '95-'96 keep turning out snowstorm after snowstorm, big and small.Great patterns for this area.
So far, so good for this year.8 inches in the books in Mahwah, nearly 1/4 the average year total.The key will be how fast the snowy pattern re-sets after the weekend warmup.
Hello Doc
I thought 92-93 was the stormy... snow to liquid to ice winter (something like 17 storms (tons of freezing rain))
Bob
Bob---Dont ask md how I remember this but.....92-93 started off with December 11th storm (worst to hit shore before Sandy), followed by the '93 Blizzard in March of that year...93-94 was similar to the way this year is starting off....lots of smaller storms, action, two very disruptive ice events in Jan '94, and one very major snow-storm if im right....94-95 no snow, 95-96 had some humdingers....snow/sleet event a few days before Christmas.....massive Blizzard of '96 first week of January are the ones that stand out to me
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That Noreaster in Dec 92 was epic. Hurricane force winds. I remember every major bridge closed and flooding in lower Manhattan, water rescues on the FDR. The flooding on the western LI sound was really bad.
http://www.hurricanes-blizzards-noreasters.com/1992noreaster.html
http://www.hurricanes-blizzards-noreasters.com/1992noreaster.html
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ty dtone for that link....that was the storm that got me hooked, boardwalks gone, trees everywhere, huge waves, and remembered back side of the storm gave us some snow
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Re: 12/17 Re-developing Clipper Storm
Wow...look at that. Good stuff guys.
The EURO has the clipper event as well. Will look into this storm more thoroughly later tonight.
The EURO has the clipper event as well. Will look into this storm more thoroughly later tonight.
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Accuweather has 1-2 inches for my area to rain. Nothing spectacular to me yet. Yonkers "city official" measurement, and I agree based on mine, total came in this morning at 6.2 inches, not bad for a December storm, well off to a normal/above normal snowfall year.
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From upton
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/stormtotalprecip.php
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/stormtotalprecip.php
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3-5in across the NYC Metro/ LI/ SCT/ SRI this Tuesday according to the 18z NAM!
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Wow, I hope the NAM is right, another 2-4 to 3-5" event would be nice. BTW ended this past storm with around 5 and a half inches, was busy last night so didn't have a chance to post.
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