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Post by Frank_Wx Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:53 pm

Latest nam also supports 1-3 inches

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Post by NjWeatherGuy Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:06 pm

The highest QPF in the area is in CNJ where there is about .2" QPF. The NAM has been consistent in saying that NYC and LI get closer to .1". If this continues I will make a forecast for 1-3" for most of NJ and T-1" for NYC/LI.

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Post by jmanley32 Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:17 pm

hey mugs, not bashing any meterologists maybe we should add DPW to the list too lol.  I dunno about your area but here everyone feels something fishy is going on.  Very well may not be was just saying no hard feelings I know those guys work hard but honestly have not seen any plows and on Wed-Friday did not see any either.
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:22 pm

Ratios will be worse in southern NJ and rain looks possible depending on the solution. Check out the SREF p-types and SFC temps.

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/SREF21TYPNE_15z/srefloop.html

RIGHT NOW (this can change)

Northern half of NJ/lower HV 1-3"

Southern NJ, PHI, NYC and parts of LI T-1"
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Post by Dtone Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:25 pm

jmanley32 wrote:Snowman, small world I live right off MClean Ave!  My road is bad all parking spots are ice now, impossible to get in and out of unless you have a pick ax.  I feel there is something going on either with Yonkers budget or there is some kind of boycot.  It was on News 12 how much in a uproar people are.  No matter how difficult it may be I feel they should continue alternate side parking and clean the snow from the streets so cars can park.  There are shoveled pile 5 feet high and some cars are completely blocked in and what snow has been plowed is now so hard its impossible to drive through and thus has to be chopped through, risk to your health esepcailly older people.  I am totally disappointed with my city to say the least.  If we get another 1-3 or man 3-6 itsd justy got to be a majoe mess, there is NOWHERE to put it!

After these last back to back storms the resulting snow pack looks like after one big 20" blizzard. Parking is horrible, and the worst is it always seems easier to barrel your way into a snowy parking spot than it is to leave. The truth is anywhere with 24/7 street parking will never be fully clean after a significant snowfall. Urban living inconveniences. The towns around where I work further north in Westchester get there streets so clean I was baffled cuz even when they get more snow its better there. Most of those places either have no street parking or overnight parking is infrequent or banned. It lets them fully plow, and there is not blocks of cars encased in snow and ice that just gets shoveled back in the street which leave many side streets snow covered long after then storm is gone. This ice covered snow seems to make it worse too. We have less open space to dump snow too so its just an never ending battle everyone is pushing snow in someone elses way.

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Post by Dunnzoo Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:51 pm

jmanley32 wrote:WOW, mugs! Thats sincerely scary as I feel we will get our major storm before the winter is over.  I have a feeling its the same situation.  Heres somethibng odd I saw a few storms back.  A snow plow stopped outside and spun his salt spreader putting aimmensie amount of salt in one spot, so much it made a pile, what a waste!!!  No wonder they are running out, is it sabotage or pure idiotic workers.


jman, it happened here in front of my house too, so when he left my husband ran out with a bucket and shocel and scooped it all up! Best salt we ever had! lol


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Post by amugs Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:02 pm

Looks like a quick hitter a good 1-3" to refresh the snirt!!
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Post by aiannone Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:40 pm

NYC DSNY has issued a Snow Alert for tomorrow

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:17 pm

It looks like 1-3 it shall be. No real changes in any runs tonight regarding the snow tomorrow night.

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Post by amugs Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:22 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:It looks like 1-3 it shall be. No real changes in any runs tonight regarding the snow tomorrow night.


CP - I concur and it will freshen up my snowpack that is at 12" - a 3-4" layer of ice on the top. Like a frickin' glacier.  RGEM was a tick wetter but only a few mm which is nothing really. Let this be a tune up hopefully for the Wed - Thursday storm.

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Post by Quietace Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:20 pm

Radar looking good for 1-3 for most.
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Post by SNOW MAN Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:23 pm

24* and snowing lightly.
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Post by skinsfan1177 Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:23 pm

Ace you think we be on the high end of that 3inches
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Post by Quietace Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:24 pm

skinsfan1177 wrote:Ace you think we be on the high end of that 3inches
Probably end up near 2-2.5 unless the radar really expands when the low hits the coast.
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Post by skinsfan1177 Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:26 pm

got you lets hope I tried to find what our highest snowfall season was no luck
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Post by Quietace Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:34 pm

skinsfan1177 wrote:got you lets hope I tried to find what our highest snowfall season was no luck
Could not find it either. But i would bet we re not close to it what so ever.
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Post by aiannone Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:39 pm

Well, first let's see if the mountains eat any up lol

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:44 pm

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skinsfan1177 wrote:got you lets hope I tried to find what our highest snowfall season was no luck
Could not find it either. But i would bet we re not close to it what so ever.

I would guess that 95/96 when NYC set their record with 75.6 inches was your probably your best year also. Not that many borderline storms that year but I don't know what your closes town is that records official NWS stats?
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:46 pm

It's coming in very fast, doesn't look all that juicy I think 1" is the most common number with isolated 2-3" in spots with the best banding.

http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?location=USCT0094&animate=true
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Post by Quietace Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:50 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
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skinsfan1177 wrote:got you lets hope I tried to find what our highest snowfall season was no luck
Could not find it either. But i would bet we re not close to it what so ever.

I would guess that 95/96 when NYC set their record with 75.6 inches was your probably your best year also.  Not that many borderline storms that year but I don't know what your closes town is that records official NWS stats?
Probably Belmar. I wouldn't use Lakehurst NAS as its too far inland to be accurate.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:20 pm

Ryan & Skins:

Your closest stations with long time records are NYC and Atlantic City, since your pretty much in the center between both I would guess 95/96 wasn't your year like I originally thought. NYC set their record with 75.6 that year but AC only had 18 inches, sharp cut off.

Your record year was most likely 2009/10 when AC set their all time record with 58 and NYC had 51.4 inches that year. I would guess your record would be somewhere in the 55-65 range from that year.  It's recent enough that someone in the Belmar area must have been logging daily totals.
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Post by skinsfan1177 Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:25 pm

thanks CP
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Post by SNOW MAN Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:32 pm

23* moderate snow.
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:53 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:Ryan & Skins:

Your closest stations with long time records are NYC and Atlantic City, since your pretty much in the center between both I would guess 95/96 wasn't your year like I originally thought. NYC set their record with 75.6 that year but AC only had 18 inches, sharp cut off.

Your record year was most likely 2009/10 when AC set their all time record with 58 and NYC had 51.4 inches that year. I would guess your record would be somewhere in the 55-65 range from that year.  It's recent enough that someone in the Belmar area must have been logging daily totals.

95-96 was likely my highest totals year, 30" alone from the blizzard of '96 and several other storms I did well. This was the year that made me get a snowblower.
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Post by aiannone Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:54 pm

You better get a snowblower for midweek Tom.

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Post by aiannone Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:01 pm

Special Weather Statement
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
445 PM EST SUN FEB 9 2014
...SNOW OVERSPREADING THE AREA...

LIGHT TO OCCASIONALLY MODERATE SNOW WILL OVERSPREAD THE TRI-STATE
REGION FROM WEST TO EAST THIS EVENING. THE SNOW WILL REDUCE
VISIBILITIES TO AROUND A HALF MILE AT TIMES. A WIDESPREAD ONE TO
TWO INCHES OF ACCUMULATION CAN BE EXPECTED. THE SNOW WILL COME TO
AN END LATE TONIGHT. USE EXTRA CAUTION IF TRAVELING THIS EVENING.

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Post by NjWeatherGuy Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:05 pm

Mets2695 wrote:Special Weather Statement
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
445 PM EST SUN FEB 9 2014
...SNOW OVERSPREADING THE AREA...

LIGHT TO OCCASIONALLY MODERATE SNOW WILL OVERSPREAD THE TRI-STATE
REGION FROM WEST TO EAST THIS EVENING. THE SNOW WILL REDUCE
VISIBILITIES TO AROUND A HALF MILE AT TIMES. A WIDESPREAD ONE TO
TWO INCHES OF ACCUMULATION CAN BE EXPECTED. THE SNOW WILL COME TO
AN END LATE TONIGHT. USE EXTRA CAUTION IF TRAVELING THIS EVENING.

It's breaking up, I don't like the idea of widespread 2" accumulations, 1 will be the number a majority of people see with isolated lollipops of 2"
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