12/9-12/10 Coastal Storm Observations

RGEM has more snow showers for the area tomorrow

just got home and measured 3/4" not to bad considering I was expecting only a few flurries

ended up with almost an inch on colder surfaces. had 8 hours of light to moderate snow. if surface temps were a few degrees colder would have 3" easily.

Got to see some light snow on my birthday today. Nice treat even though I have to work 5pm-1:30am.

3rd trace of The season overnight. Countinues the record breaking year for the coast

algae888 wrote:ended up with almost an inch on colder surfaces. had 8 hours of light to moderate snow. if surface temps were a few degrees colder would have 3" easily.

I was thinking the same thing. Between about 4 p.m. And 8 p.m. It look like several inches of snow easily fell had the ground been a few degrees colder. It took sunset and heavy snowfall to get anything to stick. Those few hrs looked more impressive than anything that Nov storm delivered.
Central Park recorded 0.5"
LGA 1"

I had 1" on cars and grassy surfaces, coating in spots elsewhere.

Good morning. I woke up to a coating on grassy surface. Temps 30.2*F Have to watch for black ice this morning.

Just woke up went out back with the dog and still snowing. 1 inch officially on colder surfaces and grass and a solid coating on all paved surfaces and streets in my neighborhood. Looks awesome.

Snowing here and 31. another batch is rotating through, looks like more behind that possibly. Roads are dry and its sticking to secondary roads. It was also snowing around midnight last night.

Syosnow, you happier now : ) Looks like we have the possibility of two large events one around 21/22nd and one around 24/25, wouldnt that be something a major noreaster on christmas, math you got this one when was the last time that happened?

jmanley32 wrote:Syosnow, you happier now : )  Looks like we have the possibility of two large events one around 21/22nd and one around 24/25, wouldnt that be something a major noreaster on christmas, math you got this one when was the last time that happened?

Much happier now. So is everyone else. The snow puts EVERYONE in a good mood especially this time of year. If we get snowstorms around Christmas time you guys will here me from your hoses I'll be so excited!!

syosnow94 wrote:

jmanley32 wrote:Syosnow, you happier now : )  Looks like we have the possibility of two large events one around 21/22nd and one around 24/25, wouldnt that be something a major noreaster on christmas, math you got this one when was the last time that happened?

Much happier now.  So is everyone else.  The snow puts EVERYONE in a good mood especially this time of year.  If we get snowstorms around Christmas time you guys will here me from your hoses I'll be so excited!!

Everyone but business owners.

jmanley32 wrote:Syosnow, you happier now : )  Looks like we have the possibility of two large events one around 21/22nd and one around 24/25, wouldnt that be something a major noreaster on christmas, math you got this one when was the last time that happened?

Jman, do you remember Christmas Day 2002? Here in Queens, it was raining during the morning and early afternoon, then it changed over the heavy wet snow. I must have gotten around 10 inches of snow from that. It was also the first time I ever remember witnessing thundersnow. I was 12 years old then.

Also the next day, we went to a resort in the Poconos where they got 2 feet of snow from the storm. The snow was so deep that we got to go snowmobiling during the trip. I can assure you that Christmas break has a special place in my heart

Saw three locations.Fort Lee had 1.5 inches, Mahwah, a dusting, and up in my Moroe NY location, probably about .5 inch.

Math 2002 I was in college in Hartford cT but i imagine for x-mas break I was in Guilford CT, I do not recall heavy wet snow, did it miss that area or did that part of CT just get rain? I certianly remember rainy christmas.

Remarkably, the snow map I issued a full days 2 before this storm turned out to be pretty ok. Considering all the model chaos and the inconsistency, I thought it worked out pretty well. I did say in the text forecast that the coast should see non-accumulating snow as well (it did accumulate for some but has already dissipated)



A lot more to track! Will have a long range blog up this weekend.

Snow band reformed over CNJ, near whiteout conditions now, heaviest snow of the storm thus far lol.

NjWeatherGuy wrote:Snow band reformed over CNJ, near whiteout conditions now, heaviest snow of the storm thus far lol.

Even with these crazy set-ups the south winds AGAIN

Dunnzoo wrote:

NjWeatherGuy wrote:Snow band reformed over CNJ, near whiteout conditions now, heaviest snow of the storm thus far lol.

Even with these crazy set-ups the south winds AGAIN              

Frank, with what Janet stated above, I hope you are prepared for your move to Hackettstown in a few weeks. xD

Math23x7 wrote:

Dunnzoo wrote:

NjWeatherGuy wrote:Snow band reformed over CNJ, near whiteout conditions now, heaviest snow of the storm thus far lol.

Even with these crazy set-ups the south winds AGAIN              

Frank, with what Janet stated above, I hope you are prepared for your move to Hackettstown in a few weeks. xD

UHGG that micro-climate out there is going to kill me

Frank_Wx wrote:

Math23x7 wrote:

Dunnzoo wrote:

NjWeatherGuy wrote:Snow band reformed over CNJ, near whiteout conditions now, heaviest snow of the storm thus far lol.

Even with these crazy set-ups the south winds AGAIN              

Frank, with what Janet stated above, I hope you are prepared for your move to Hackettstown in a few weeks. xD

UHGG that micro-climate out there is going to kill me

Hahaha! My brother wants to kick my ass every time he gets an email from me saying it going to snow - 2 days off from school so far with 3 days to go - they are going to use them up by the 2 nd week of jan!!

And cold brrrrrrrrr out there. Have fun.

Janet they are getting us back from the war we won 150 years ago it all evens out somehow.

Upton just stated that CPK got 1.0" of snow over since Wednesday bringing the seasonal snow total to 1.2." Just another 1.7" before it overtakes 1972-93's 2.8"

Also, if the December prognosticator holds true this time around, CPK needs an additional 2.0" and we can say the rest of the winter will have at least 20"

Math23x7 wrote:Upton just stated that CPK got 1.0" of snow over since Wednesday bringing the seasonal snow total to 1.2." Just another 1.7" before it overtakes 1972-93's 2.8"

Also, if the December prognosticator holds true this time around, CPK needs an additional 2.0" and we can say the rest of the winter will have at least 20"

upton changed their total after cp got after the zoo keeper.lol cp keep on his butt.  you will have to do this after every storm and we may have many, if we have any chance to break snow fall record in nyc.lol

algae888 wrote:

Math23x7 wrote:Upton just stated that CPK got 1.0" of snow over since Wednesday bringing the seasonal snow total to 1.2." Just another 1.7" before it overtakes 1972-93's 2.8"

Also, if the December prognosticator holds true this time around, CPK needs an additional 2.0" and we can say the rest of the winter will have at least 20"

upton changed their total after cp got after the zoo keeper.lol cp keep on his butt.  you will have to do this after every storm and we may have many, if we have any chance to break snow fall record in nyc.lol

Thanks Al, it is a struggle keeping after them.

Math: The December prognosticator works when December has 6.0 or more inches in December. When there is 3.0 inches or less CPK gets a crappy winter.

The 3.1 to 5.9 range hasn't come into play in 30 years so I don't make a call on that range, not enough data and when I originally looked into it I only looked at the last 20 years, I know you've looked back further since then.

The winter of 84/85 was the last time December had a December snowfall in the the 3.1 to 5.9 inch range. Which in itself defies all odds because the 30 year average in CPK is 4.8 and the 145 year average for December is 5.6 inches. That's one of the reasons I first looked into it.

Annnddd currently moderate graupel falling, lol it never ends

NjWeatherGuy wrote:Annnddd currently moderate graupel falling, lol it never ends

Oh Christ here we go - Tom squared now Jack potting in Central Jersey!! What else is new
heard you guys had 1" down the in the squalls today - truth to it?

I got a thick coating maybe quarter inch total, for some reason not showing up on radar returns.