FLORENCE: East Coast Threat or Does She Sleep With the Fishes?
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Re: FLORENCE: East Coast Threat or Does She Sleep With the Fishes?
jmanley32 wrote:Cone did not shift its nowhere near nj. Down in Carolinas. But dayumm 939mb 140mph we may see cat 5 here.
Jman look at my picture, latest from the NHC
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Only 8 days. Pretty consistent with timing compared to others I think
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18z gfs!!! But more than a week out meh.
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Re: FLORENCE: East Coast Threat or Does She Sleep With the Fishes?
18z GEFS have some Sandy-like solutions, although mainly in the Chesapeake region.....
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Re: FLORENCE: East Coast Threat or Does She Sleep With the Fishes?
Interesting words I read on another wx forum...
"The interaction between a hurricane this powerful and a ridge that is best described as moderately strong west of 70W is so full of uncertainty that nobody north of the projected landfall zone should assume they are in any kind of impact-free situation. I think the most likely outcome is for a fast recurvature through the Mid-Atlantic (after the NC landfall) and probably a track through southern New England and across Nova Scotia. Intensity would likely be down to cat-1 or weak cat-2 by the time the center reaches central Chesapeake and tropical storm from about PHL to PWM. I am not seeing much justification for the offshore stalls, loops or southwest motion scenarios. Late October 1963 offered as one example was a time of very strong high pressure ridge formation and six weeks later than this in the season.
SST values from the current location of the storm to the Cape Lookout to Hatteras zone currently average 29 C. There is almost no 500 mb wind field ahead of the storm at all excluding what it is producing locally. I don't see this ridge holding back the inevitable and most frequent solution of a steady recurve north and northeast over 48 hours after landfall. The impacts would be moderately severe for southeast VA, moderate for regions further north trending to less severe by NYC and New England. But nobody in those regions should be assuming they are just on the sidelines of Florence. Just my opinion and would say this scenario 50% likely, steady west then north movement 30% and the other loops and meanders about 20% likely."
"The interaction between a hurricane this powerful and a ridge that is best described as moderately strong west of 70W is so full of uncertainty that nobody north of the projected landfall zone should assume they are in any kind of impact-free situation. I think the most likely outcome is for a fast recurvature through the Mid-Atlantic (after the NC landfall) and probably a track through southern New England and across Nova Scotia. Intensity would likely be down to cat-1 or weak cat-2 by the time the center reaches central Chesapeake and tropical storm from about PHL to PWM. I am not seeing much justification for the offshore stalls, loops or southwest motion scenarios. Late October 1963 offered as one example was a time of very strong high pressure ridge formation and six weeks later than this in the season.
SST values from the current location of the storm to the Cape Lookout to Hatteras zone currently average 29 C. There is almost no 500 mb wind field ahead of the storm at all excluding what it is producing locally. I don't see this ridge holding back the inevitable and most frequent solution of a steady recurve north and northeast over 48 hours after landfall. The impacts would be moderately severe for southeast VA, moderate for regions further north trending to less severe by NYC and New England. But nobody in those regions should be assuming they are just on the sidelines of Florence. Just my opinion and would say this scenario 50% likely, steady west then north movement 30% and the other loops and meanders about 20% likely."
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Re: FLORENCE: East Coast Threat or Does She Sleep With the Fishes?
I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see this path, minus most of the loops. If you look at my post on page 5 from 10 am Saturday, this is almost exactly the general path (a little east maybe inland) I was talking about as being most likely.
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billg315 wrote:
I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see this path, minus most of the loops. If you look at my post on page 5 from 10 am Saturday, this is almost exactly the general path (a little east maybe inland) I was talking about as being most likely.
Pages back, I have a track up the coast as well (along with Rb). It's the stalling and looping until the end times that I don't see happening.
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I have family and friends that live on the Sound near Morehead City Nc...that might get hit with 15-20 ft storm surge and what are the winds..at least 100 plus. they are evacuating 5 hours inland..to Ashville..that might not be a good idea because now they are saying that inland might have biblical rains...what a freaking mess!
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weatherwatchermom wrote:I have family and friends that live on the Sound near Morehead City Nc...that might get hit with 15-20 ft storm surge and what are the winds..at least 100 plus. they are evacuating 5 hours inland..to Ashville..that might not be a good idea because now they are saying that inland might have biblical rains...what a freaking mess!
Hey mom. Get in touch with them and tell them to go southwest. Somewhere near central SC. That will most likely put them on the southern and western periphery of this storm ensuring their safety. Good luck
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syosnow94 wrote:weatherwatchermom wrote:I have family and friends that live on the Sound near Morehead City Nc...that might get hit with 15-20 ft storm surge and what are the winds..at least 100 plus. they are evacuating 5 hours inland..to Ashville..that might not be a good idea because now they are saying that inland might have biblical rains...what a freaking mess!
Hey mom. Get in touch with them and tell them to go southwest. Somewhere near central SC. That will most likely put them on the southern and western periphery of this storm ensuring their safety. Good luck
we told them to come up here..but thanks that is a good idea! I will have my mom call them...wish were tracking snow vs...hurricanes..I am having flashbacks and feeling the anxiety I felt before Sandy...
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THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE CATASTROPHIC RUN for the coast!!
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omg mugs...I could just cry..is there any chance this could skip out to sea a bit?? i want to hold out hopeamugs wrote:THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE CATASTROPHIC RUN for the coast!!
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That run won’t happen. Impossible
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Read.
http://www.stormhamster.com/entry/e091018b.htm
http://www.stormhamster.com/entry/e091018b.htm
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I would normally agree with this, without hesitation. But after watching how Harvey behaved and how Sandy decided to take an unprecedented sharp left turn, I guess it can’t be ruled out completely.syosnow94 wrote:That run won’t happen. Impossible
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Jesus that's long go need a hour for thatSoulSingMG wrote:Read.
http://www.stormhamster.com/entry/e091018b.htm
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SoulSingMG wrote:Read.
http://www.stormhamster.com/entry/e091018b.htm
This sounds familiar.
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SoulSingMG wrote:Read.
http://www.stormhamster.com/entry/e091018b.htm
Phenomenal read. Really clear.
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SoulSingMG wrote:Read.
http://www.stormhamster.com/entry/e091018b.htm
Great write-up!! Can't say I disagreed with anything there.
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rb924119 wrote:SoulSingMG wrote:Read.
http://www.stormhamster.com/entry/e091018b.htm
Great write-up!! Can't say I disagreed with anything there.
The crank can be severely annoying when his takes are opposite of my desired outcomes (and this take is supportive of mine) but I can't ever say that they aren't well reasoned and argued.
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Zhukov1945 wrote:rb924119 wrote:SoulSingMG wrote:Read.
http://www.stormhamster.com/entry/e091018b.htm
Great write-up!! Can't say I disagreed with anything there.
The crank can be severely annoying when his takes are opposite of my desired outcomes (and this take is supportive of mine) but I can't ever say that they aren't well reasoned and argued.
The funniest thing is when he rants and rails about "the trolls" and you look through his tweets and he has maybe 1-2 replies per tweet. Easily triggered much?
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11pm Update: Winds still at 140 mph, pressure up a bit to 944mb. Another slight adjustment north in the track from the NHC
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