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Post by jmanley32 Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:25 am

Al that would be awesome hope its cold enough here to give us a inch or more : ) And I am still hoping for next week, hey this one trended wetter maybe that one will trend colder, who knows the models are kinda all over.

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Post by jmanley32 Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:31 am

According to the wxbell NAM snow map, we basically get nothing. Its all rain. I don't know if they are still useless this close to an event but if this verifies it stinks.

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Post by sroc4 Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:02 am

Frank_Wx wrote:Rgem snow map

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Frank do you have the surface temp maps for the RGEM?

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Post by algae888 Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:28 am

Scott even though temps right now are in the mid to upper forties the new points are in the mid to upper twenties hopefully that's a good sign. if you average it out it takes us into the mid and upper 30s. that should be cold enough for snow
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Post by Dunnzoo Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:51 am

amugs wrote:Al,

I have nov 15th!! Anyway, I will take a grass and car coating this early anytime. If this was dec 14 th then it would really put us all in the mood for Xmas!!

Zoo it will stick on the mountain up the block from you - Mugs's house!! Hahaha

Mugs, you are off by 1 day! affraid

There are some folks that have the 14th!

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Post by jmanley32 Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:54 am

The 12z gfs brings a few inches and 2 to 4 to the east. 2nd storm stays colder further south too.
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Post by amugs Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:57 am

Dunnzoo wrote:
amugs wrote:Al,

I have nov 15th!! Anyway, I will take a grass and car coating this early anytime. If this was dec 14 th then it would really put us all in the mood for Xmas!!

Zoo it will stick on the mountain up the block from you - Mugs's house!! Hahaha

Mugs, you are off by 1 day! affraid

There are some folks that have the 14th!

Mother of Pearls!!!! Just like our location ooohh so close - a day late and a dollar short! Put the back blowers on, send out the jets and stall this puppy for one day! Mugs needs a hearing device - hahaha - hey look at my post in the winter outlook and add or correct if I missed anything - need to videotape him next year and post it here with his permission - very interesting.

GGEM - .25 - .50 someone like AL said hits the cash register for more than an inch if it serves and it will be cold enough coming in at early morning

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Post by sroc4 Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:00 pm

algae888 wrote:Scott even though temps right now are in the mid to upper forties the new points are in the mid to upper twenties hopefully that's a good sign. if you average it out it takes us into the mid and upper 30s. that should be cold enough for snow

Last nights NAM had dew points in the low to mid 30's on the coast last night.  I havent looked at today much but dewpoints in the 20's is a nice trend.

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Post by aiannone Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:01 pm

College folks are forecasting a coating to an inch here. Anyone have any disagreements with that?

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Post by Frank_Wx Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:17 pm

aiannone wrote:College folks are forecasting a coating to an inch here. Anyone have any disagreements with that?

Nope

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Post by aiannone Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:20 pm

I am concerned the coast and maybe parts of LI may see more snow than me if temps cool fast enough. That would just be a slap in the face lol. Temps shouldn't be an issue for me, but QPF will be.

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Post by Frank_Wx Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:25 pm

aiannone wrote:I am concerned the coast and maybe parts of LI may see more snow than me if temps cool fast enough. That would just be a slap in the face lol. Temps shouldn't be an issue for me, but QPF will be.

We probably will but it won't stick. Maybe the grass.

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Post by aiannone Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:26 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:
aiannone wrote:I am concerned the coast and maybe parts of LI may see more snow than me if temps cool fast enough. That would just be a slap in the face lol. Temps shouldn't be an issue for me, but QPF will be.

We probably will but it won't stick. Maybe the grass.

I'm sure you will enjoy seeing the flakes though! I'm patiently waiting for what could happen Monday here.

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Post by aiannone Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:05 pm

Just issued: New York City Department of Sanitation has issued a SNOW ALERT for Thursday, November 13, starting at 8 p.m. Salt trucks have been loaded and plows will be dispatched if needed

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Post by algae888 Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:12 pm

scott here are current temps and dew points

CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS
CENTRAL PARK CLOUDY 48 25 40 W7 30.06F
LAGUARDIA APRT CLOUDY 48 28 46 NW3 30.04F
KENNEDY INTL PTSUNNY 48 26 42 SW6 30.05F
NEWARK/LIBERTY CLOUDY 48 27 44 SW6 30.04F
TETERBORO APRT CLOUDY 48 27 44 CALM 30.03F
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Post by amugs Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:51 pm

http://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/mpyle/spcprod/12/nmmwrf.refc_animate_1h.html#picture

Incoming!!

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Post by skinsfan1177 Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:28 pm

So what does it look like for my area cnj coast im thinking 50/50 for snow. Onething I did notice today it was suppose to be 50 it only got to 45
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Post by jmanley32 Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:53 pm

Alex I do not see anything about a snow alert for NYC, where did you see that?
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Post by jmanley32 Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:56 pm

LOL, a snow alert for a trace of snow, Alex I found it.
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:58 pm

Again folks surface temps are in the mid 30s at best which means these snow maps will not translate to liquid to snow at 10:1 ratio. Nice to see a slight wet trend which means we may get a nice little coating on grass to wake up but .25" of liquid equivalent falling as snow simply will not translate to 1-3" as it does in mid winter.. C-1 at best.
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Post by Dunnzoo Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:07 pm

Clouds are thickening and lowering here and 46*

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Post by NjWeatherGuy Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:18 pm

aiannone wrote: Just issued: New York City Department of Sanitation has issued a SNOW ALERT for Thursday, November 13, starting at 8 p.m. Salt trucks have been loaded and plows will be dispatched if needed

Government continues to do a great job at wasting taxpayer money.
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Post by jmanley32 Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:32 pm

NJ 2nd that, unless we get a big surprise and a "day after tomorrow" freeze big waste.
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Post by cooladi Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:35 pm

https://mail.aol.com/38848-111/aol-6/en-us/mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=29385520&folder=Inbox&partId=0

Link to photo of clouds lowering here at 1 WTC - 44th Floor. Not sure if the link will work, appreciate your patience...

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Post by docstox12 Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:55 pm

Thickening Stratus clouds, 42 degrees,30.07 falling, 58% humidity.Hoping to see the first flakes tomorrow up here Monroe HV NY.
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Post by Dunnzoo Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:13 pm

cooladi wrote:https://mail.aol.com/38848-111/aol-6/en-us/mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=29385520&folder=Inbox&partId=0

Link to photo of clouds lowering here at 1 WTC - 44th Floor.  Not sure if the link will work, appreciate your patience...

The link doesn't work :-(

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Post by Dtone Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:22 pm

NjWeatherGuy wrote:
aiannone wrote: Just issued: New York City Department of Sanitation has issued a SNOW ALERT for Thursday, November 13, starting at 8 p.m. Salt trucks have been loaded and plows will be dispatched if needed

Government continues to do a great job at wasting taxpayer money.


http://gothamist.com/2014/11/13/ha_ha_theres_a_snow_alert_tonight.php

LOL. Its all political maneuvering. Just covering themselves in case the 1 in a million scenario happens, they can have a defense against political foes using it against them.

Now the fake media hype cuz the avg person will just read headlines and not see detailed forecast

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