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Post by Dtone Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:00 am

Since it didnt happen this weekend..any chances the rest of the month for NYC to get at or below freezing? Is a freeze less Dec really possible.

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:35 am

@Dtone wrote:Since it didnt happen this weekend..any chances the rest of the month for NYC to get at or below freezing?  Is a freeze less Dec really possible.

It happens sometimes in April in NYC and as I've stated several times this December is basically a typical April so far, and it looks like temperature wise it will end up about on par with an average April which in NYC is 53.0 degrees.

As Math stated earlier this would be a record warm March average, for December it is off the charts warm, like as unprecedented, never happened before and hopefully never again. It's actually funny how the news media went on about the cold yesterday which was basically 2-5 degrees above normal around the area. Amazing.
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Post by Dtone Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:24 am

@CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
@Dtone wrote:Since it didnt happen this weekend..any chances the rest of the month for NYC to get at or below freezing?  Is a freeze less Dec really possible.

It happens sometimes in April in NYC and as I've stated several times this December is basically a typical April so far, and it looks like temperature wise it will end up about on par with an average April which in NYC is 53.0 degrees.

As Math stated earlier this would be a record warm March average, for December it is off the charts warm, like as unprecedented, never happened before and hopefully never again. It's actually funny how the news media went on about the cold yesterday which was basically 2-5 degrees above normal around the area. Amazing.

Yeah I found it a little funny too, cold as it was it still was slightly above normal. Shows how we are not acclimated to cold weather at all. It was the first day CPK was less than 5 degrees above normal this month. What will people do if we get some normal Jan temps.

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Post by jmanley32 Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:58 am

Ha, check out the storm for day 8, went back to coastal from cutter, and check banter for the snow map its insane as usual this far out.
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Post by docstox12 Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:11 pm

34.7, 55%, 30.28 R. Partly cloudy, calm.

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Post by Dtone Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:58 pm

@CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
@Dtone wrote:Since it didnt happen this weekend..any chances the rest of the month for NYC to get at or below freezing?  Is a freeze less Dec really possible.

It happens sometimes in April in NYC and as I've stated several times this December is basically a typical April so far, and it looks like temperature wise it will end up about on par with an average April which in NYC is 53.0 degrees.

As Math stated earlier this would be a record warm March average, for December it is off the charts warm, like as unprecedented, never happened before and hopefully never again. It's actually funny how the news media went on about the cold yesterday which was basically 2-5 degrees above normal around the area. Amazing.

Its been 265 days and counting since central park has gone below freezing. 3rd longest streak ever, 274 is the record. Last time was Mar 30th 2015.

https://twitter.com/NWSNewYorkNY/status/678596761443790849

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Post by NjWeatherGuy Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:11 pm

@Dtone wrote:
@CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
@Dtone wrote:Since it didnt happen this weekend..any chances the rest of the month for NYC to get at or below freezing?  Is a freeze less Dec really possible.

It happens sometimes in April in NYC and as I've stated several times this December is basically a typical April so far, and it looks like temperature wise it will end up about on par with an average April which in NYC is 53.0 degrees.

As Math stated earlier this would be a record warm March average, for December it is off the charts warm, like as unprecedented, never happened before and hopefully never again. It's actually funny how the news media went on about the cold yesterday which was basically 2-5 degrees above normal around the area. Amazing.

Its been 265 days and counting since central park has gone below freezing. 3rd longest streak ever, 274 is the record. Last time was Mar 30th 2015.

https://twitter.com/NWSNewYorkNY/status/678596761443790849
Could break that, they didnt get below freezing when we got into the 20s out here those times in Oct/Nov? Got below freezing last night and into 20s tonight here, that heat island i guess...
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Post by sroc4 Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:10 pm

Down to 33* already. Hope I see freezing. Feels great out side.

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Post by docstox12 Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:20 pm

24.2 here.
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Post by Dunnzoo Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:24 pm

32° here. Didn't even notice how cold it got, was baking all day and didn't get outside!

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Post by Dtone Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:49 pm

@NjWeatherGuy wrote:
@Dtone wrote:
@CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
@Dtone wrote:Since it didnt happen this weekend..any chances the rest of the month for NYC to get at or below freezing?  Is a freeze less Dec really possible.

It happens sometimes in April in NYC and as I've stated several times this December is basically a typical April so far, and it looks like temperature wise it will end up about on par with an average April which in NYC is 53.0 degrees.

As Math stated earlier this would be a record warm March average, for December it is off the charts warm, like as unprecedented, never happened before and hopefully never again. It's actually funny how the news media went on about the cold yesterday which was basically 2-5 degrees above normal around the area. Amazing.

Its been 265 days and counting since central park has gone below freezing. 3rd longest streak ever, 274 is the record. Last time was Mar 30th 2015.

https://twitter.com/NWSNewYorkNY/status/678596761443790849
Could break that, they didnt get below freezing when we got into the 20s out here those times in Oct/Nov? Got below freezing last night and into 20s tonight here, that heat island i guess...


Got to 32* once in Nov. (Technically at freezing, not below)
LGA hasnt at all. Lowest ive seen imby is 33.

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Post by amugs Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:22 pm

Was in the city today for my sons ice hockey games at Lasker Rink in Central Park outdoor rink - awesome. Actually cold out there even though it was 40*. BTW scored 6 goals in one game - wooooo hooooo!!


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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:03 pm

Congrats to him. He sounds talented.

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Post by aiannone Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:09 pm

30.9* here in Saint James, LI. Not the coldest of the season by any means. In late November I hit a low of 21.3*. Crazy how about 40mi east of the city makes such a difference.
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Post by Frank_Wx Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:26 pm

I think it's 35 here. Freezing.









...added in the freezing to irk CP Wink

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:18 am

@Frank_Wx wrote:I think it's 35 here. Freezing.









...added in the freezing to irk CP Wink

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Post by algae888 Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:43 am

I can't wait for dec to end. this is the worst winter month I ever experienced. we should burn this thread if it were possible when month ends.
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Post by docstox12 Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:17 am

There was an old expression in Vaudeville many, many years ago. "Always follow a bad act!" Well, any December after this one will be better.

Was 26 earlier, now up to 31.4, 85%, 30.15 F. Cloudy, calm wind. Raw and damp.
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Post by dkodgis Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:45 am

As a lay person about the weather, while I of course have noticed the record warmth as everyone else...I have also noticed the overcast sky.  It seems every day it is overcast. If the sun were to have come out, I think we might have seen warmer temps- and definitely some more bizarre things with "spring sprouting" plants and flowers coming out too early(?).   I get the cloud thing confused. Sometimes I think the clouds help keep the warmth from the sun away. Sometimes I think the warmth of the air can't escape quickly due to the cloud cover.  This is why I am here on the board...because I want to learn about the weather.  Also, the other day I asked about spring. I know it is too soon but I meant it from the pov that a La Nina usually follows a strong El Nino, right?  So I meant to ask what type of spring as in warm or cool or dry or wet.  We started the El Nino conversation so long ago, I thought I would throw out a new direction for a change-up. I understand the currency of the El Nino and "now" discussion but I was just curious about what will be in the spring as an "if then, then that" sentence to be the precursor.

 I *just* got out the snow blower and it started on the first pull.  You have to love that fuel stabilizer.  To start on the first pull 9 months later...
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Post by dkodgis Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:55 am

Tonight at 11:40 pm comes the Winter Solstice. Everyone, lock your windows and pull down the shades!
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Post by sroc4 Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:12 am

@dkodgis wrote:As a lay person about the weather, while I of course have noticed the record warmth as everyone else...I have also noticed the overcast sky.  It seems every day it is overcast. If the sun were to have come out, I think we might have seen warmer temps- and definitely some more bizarre things with "spring sprouting" plants and flowers coming out too early(?).   I get the cloud thing confused. Sometimes I think the clouds help keep the warmth from the sun away. Sometimes I think the warmth of the air can't escape quickly due to the cloud cover.  This is why I am here on the board...because I want to learn about the weather.  Also, the other day I asked about spring. I know it is too soon but I meant it from the pov that a La Nina usually follows a strong El Nino, right?  So I meant to ask what type of spring as in warm or cool or dry or wet.  We started the El Nino conversation so long ago, I thought I would throw out a new direction for a change-up. I understand the currency of the El Nino and "now" discussion but I was just curious about what will be in the spring as an "if then, then that" sentence to be the precursor.

 I *just* got out the snow blower and it started on the first pull.  You have to love that fuel stabilizer.  To start on the first pull 9 months later...

There are def times the clouds can both keep temps on the cooler side and the warmer side depending on the set up.  For instance on a summer day in late july the clouds will def temper temps from reaching their max potential.   As soon as that sun pokes its head out those day time temps usually spike.  On the flip side on a cold winter day when clouds roll in, esp a low level layer, as night time occurs they can act as a blanket if you will to trap the daytime heating along the surface leading to a warmer overnight temp due to the insulation effect of the  clouds.  Relative to if the clouds were not there, all the heat absorbed by the earth during the day would be allowed to continue rising and dissipate into the atmosphere.  

Regarding what to expect for spring time weather its a bit too early to make any real predictions as we need to see just how fast and by how much the El Nino collapses through the winter.  IMHO general statements about this years spring time patterns would better made in Feb March time frame.  As far as what type of spring pattern is typical during collapsing el nino or la Nada in the NE, I don't know off the top of my head.  Maybe someone else could post that.  

Anyway I hope that helps some.  BTW did you see the updated instructions on how to upload your pics I posted in response to your prev post?

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Post by dkodgis Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:24 am

Sroc4-thanks for the scoop and sorry but no I did not see the tutorial but I will look for it now. I too have a pix of a cherry tree blooming to share.
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Post by sroc4 Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:37 am

@dkodgis wrote:Sroc4-thanks for the scoop and sorry but no I did not see the tutorial but I will look for it now. I too have a pix of a cherry tree blooming to share.

Here is the link. It can be found in the off topic section:
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Post by Dtone Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:53 pm

Xmas eve forecast keeping going higher and higher. From near 70 to low to mid 70s. Will the all time Dec high temp be in play..

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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:06 pm

@Dtone wrote:Xmas eve forecast keeping going higher and higher. From near 70 to low to mid 70s. Will the all time Dec high temp be in play..

72-74 is my forecast for the day. Which is just unbelievable.

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