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Post by jmanley32 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:24 pm

wow oh wow...

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Post by algae888 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:25 pm

hearing euro is a foot of snow for nyc

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Post by jmanley32 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:25 pm

CT and MA get absolutely creamed, but we get hammered pretty good too, may be some precip issues with it that close on cape etc.
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Post by jmanley32 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:27 pm

algae888 wrote:hearing euro is a foot of snow for nyc

ye are correct wow what a change.

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Post by sroc4 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:28 pm

jmanley32 wrote:holy s***!! giggity

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Just like the Jan23rd storm the euro is trying to pop two low centers here. One with the convection off shore, and one with the main area of convewction. Give me one more set of runs like this and Im all in.

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Post by jmanley32 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:30 pm

Wow look at how many are effected, NESIS storm level? I wonder if this has potential to b even stronger being the euro sometimes underplays intensity, but hey damn for march this would be crazy.

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Post by algae888 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:31 pm

scott yes gfs is doing same thing. it like first area of lp goes east and as piece of pv drops in it develops another low
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Post by jmanley32 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:31 pm

sroc4 wrote:
jmanley32 wrote:holy s***!! giggity

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Just like the Jan23rd storm the euro is trying to pop two low centers here.  One with the convection off shore, and one with the main area of convewction.  Give me one more set of runs like this and Im all in.  

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LOL, really u will be sold 3-4 days out? That means something big to me.
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Post by jmanley32 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:37 pm

I also noted the time, its a very short duration on euro, like 12 hrs or so so that's some damn heavy snow, mon morning commute b real ugly.
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Post by sroc4 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:40 pm

algae888 wrote:scott yes gfs is doing same thing. it like first area of lp goes east and as piece of pv drops in it develops another low

At 500mb you can see there is one piece of energy that will escape OTS. On the surface there is a LP that is trying to form associated with the convection associated with tha vort. But you can see the main energy associated with the trough should cause the real center of LP to form much closer to the coast. Yes Jman with the type of consistency and changes I saw today within EVERY single model, I am 00z set of runs from getting real excited. I have been burned before, and one set of runs does not lock me in, but...

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Post by algae888 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:42 pm

jma for good measure...
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Post by snow247 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:47 pm

Looks like another LI JP?
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Post by amugs Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:48 pm

wow what a  euro run - holy crap went back to teh idea it showed over the weekend.

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Post by algae888 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:53 pm

also if time frame is right on euro most of precip falls between 4pm and 4am so we do not have to worry about sun angle
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Post by algae888 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:58 pm

1am Monday morning cmc...
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Post by sroc4 Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:59 pm

algae888 wrote:also if time frame is right on euro most of precip falls between 4pm and 4am so we do not have to worry about sun angle

If the precip rates are high enough sun angle wont matter anyway. Last March as an example

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Post by algae888 Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:00 pm

cmc ind esm..a lot of coastal huggers
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Post by algae888 Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:03 pm

sroc4 wrote:
algae888 wrote:also if time frame is right on euro most of precip falls between 4pm and 4am so we do not have to worry about sun angle

If the precip rates are high enough sun angle wont matter anyway.  Last March as an example  
agree but with such mild days before ground will be warm a we will lose some acc to melting during peak daylight. most models have late afternoon thru nighttime hours atm. I prefer night snow to day time at this time of year esp. without any recent cold snaps.
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Post by sroc4 Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:17 pm

Frontal boundary passes on Friday it shoould get cold sat night into Sunday.
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Post by amugs Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:36 pm

COLD AIR IS IN PLACE FOR SURE - SNOW RATIOS WILL BE 10-1 AND SOME MAY EVEN BE 12-1 BUT LETS NOT GO THERE YET.

JB:  euro still not far enough west-best snow from crest of Appalachians to I-95 - THINKS THE PHASE IS STRONGER AND IT GETS/CORRECTED FURTHER WEST - NOT CUTTER BUT MORE INSIDE THE BM

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Post by amugs Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:40 pm

RAYNO : FULL STEAM AHEAD MR SQUIDWARD

WOOT WOOOT

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Post by jmanley32 Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:52 pm

Do we want it further west? Will that bring precip issues to the coast? Or will it just push that 12-18 area on Euro more into the area?
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Post by amugs Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:09 pm

EPS!!!!!!!!!!


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Post by amugs Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:10 pm

.75" into NYC!!!
Tucked LP inside benchmark !!

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Post by jmanley32 Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:11 pm

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Post by jmanley32 Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:14 pm

well not really, but a good cluster, and some of the individual runs put NYC with 12+! And after seeing Bernies video I see we will have no issues with tempos as the cold is down into DC area wow.

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Post by jmanley32 Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:18 pm

ready for control, been 3 straight runs now that shown at least 6+.

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