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Post by bobjohnsonforthehall Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:51 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:A Roidzilla was born on the 18z NAM

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That has to be a few inches of snow before this thing even gets close. I doubt it but as weather porn it works just fine.

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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:52 pm

If the low gets to the 40/70 BM check out the water temps from normal. Above average and warm for this time of year.

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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:56 pm

bobjohnsonforthehall wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:A Roidzilla was born on the 18z NAM

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That has to be a few inches of snow before this thing even gets close. I doubt it but as weather porn it works just fine.

Yes, the overrunning snows are always a 'bonus' with Miller A's and normally only the meso models, such as the NAM, pick up on it well. We'll need another day for them to sort it out. But we could start snowing as early as Friday MORNING especially in western areas while picking up 1-4 inches before the main show even arrives.


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Post by essexcountypete Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:56 pm

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Irish wrote:
mmanisca wrote:Frank just wondering, will you be starting a new thread for this storm??

Folks here are very superstitious. They feel that the posting of a storm thread on this random weather board will change the course of nature. Pretty powerful board if I might say so myself!

There are a lot of Italians on here,LOL.Posting that to early?.....MALOCCHIO!

Does this mean that we all have to wear a cornicello?  Or do we need nonna to hold a spoonful of olive oil over a bowl of water, while making the sign of the cross and saying a little prayer? Then dropping 3-5 drops of oil into the bowl with her little finger. Rinse and repeat 3-5 times.

I'm loving the Italian lessons! So much to take in!

And to think I didn't know until this morning that "Euro" was a traditional Italian name.

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Post by jmanley32 Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:57 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:If the low gets to the 40/70 BM check out the water temps from normal. Above average and warm for this time of year.

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Am I presuming that like a tropical cyclone that would make it stronger? If this thing intensifies as much as has been shown could it have a eye, one year we did have a winter storm with a eye, i forget was it the 1016?
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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:58 pm

essexcountypete wrote:
Irish wrote:
docstox12 wrote:
Irish wrote:
mmanisca wrote:Frank just wondering, will you be starting a new thread for this storm??

Folks here are very superstitious. They feel that the posting of a storm thread on this random weather board will change the course of nature. Pretty powerful board if I might say so myself!

There are a lot of Italians on here,LOL.Posting that to early?.....MALOCCHIO!

Does this mean that we all have to wear a cornicello?  Or do we need nonna to hold a spoonful of olive oil over a bowl of water, while making the sign of the cross and saying a little prayer? Then dropping 3-5 drops of oil into the bowl with her little finger. Rinse and repeat 3-5 times.

I'm loving the Italian lessons! So much to take in!

And to think I didn't know until this morning that "Euro" was a traditional Italian name.


Well technically it is their currency lol! even worse for my future wife

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Post by docstox12 Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:59 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:
bobjohnsonforthehall wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:A Roidzilla was born on the 18z NAM

snow - Long Range Discussion 23.0 - Page 19 Namconus_ref_frzn_eus_52

That has to be a few inches of snow before this thing even gets close. I doubt it but as weather porn it works just fine.

Yes, the overrunning snows are always a 'bonus' with Miller A's and normally only the meso models, such as the NAM, pick up on it well. We'll need another day for them to sort it out. But we could start snowing as early as Friday MORNING especially in western areas while picking up 1-4 inches before the main show even arrives.


Ahhhh, that wonderful term....Miller A !!!!
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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:01 pm

jmanley32 wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:If the low gets to the 40/70 BM check out the water temps from normal. Above average and warm for this time of year.

snow - Long Range Discussion 23.0 - Page 19 Cdas-sflux_ssta_atl_1
Am I presuming that like a tropical cyclone that would make it stronger? If this thing intensifies as much as has been shown could it have a eye, one year we did have a winter storm with a eye, i forget was it the 1016?

With an upper level jet structure like this we'll see rapid cyclogenesis and prolific snowfall rates. You will wet your pants after you see tomorrow's NAM runs.

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Post by amugs Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:05 pm

The over running is the PRE to these storms. It happens with Miller A's all the time and SWFE.
This is a phenomenal sign at 500mb and surface what the NAM is showing. Need another 2 days of this continuous model Roidzilla!

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Post by essexcountypete Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:06 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:If the low gets to the 40/70 BM check out the water temps from normal. Above average and warm for this time of year.

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So this means more moisture for the storm to tap into, correct?
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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:09 pm

essexcountypete wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:If the low gets to the 40/70 BM check out the water temps from normal. Above average and warm for this time of year.

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So this means more moisture for the storm to tap into, correct?

Theoretically, yes. The PWAT (precipitable water) will be at higher than normal levels

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Post by jmanley32 Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:11 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:
jmanley32 wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:If the low gets to the 40/70 BM check out the water temps from normal. Above average and warm for this time of year.

snow - Long Range Discussion 23.0 - Page 19 Cdas-sflux_ssta_atl_1
Am I presuming that like a tropical cyclone that would make it stronger? If this thing intensifies as much as has been shown could it have a eye, one year we did have a winter storm with a eye, i forget was it the 1016?

With an upper level jet structure like this we'll see rapid cyclogenesis and prolific snowfall rates. You will wet your pants after you see tomorrow's NAM runs.

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I will remember not to drink too much prior lol, man yeah that jet streak is nuts wow, trying to temper myself but this is all so exciting no? Yes I know we could get let down and am prepared for that but what is your thinking on the NAM/EURO verifying versus they GFS? Which has yet to smell the espresso, maybe 18z will.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:12 pm

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mmanisca wrote:Frank just wondering, will you be starting a new thread for this storm??

Folks here are very superstitious. They feel that the posting of a storm thread on this random weather board will change the course of nature. Pretty powerful board if I might say so myself!

Very True.

We have actually offered up several members of the forum as a human sacrifice if certain storms would  go our way. It's why we had the Boxing Day storm and several others that seemed hopeless at the time.

BTW - I'm not suggesting human sacrifice as in their lives. Only that they be banned from posting for the rest of the winter should the storms hit. I would gladly offer up myself as the human sacrifice for this storm if the Euro Control K uchera snow map verifies.

So let it be written, so let it be done.


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Post by heehaw453 Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:13 pm

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mmanisca wrote:Frank just wondering, will you be starting a new thread for this storm??

Folks here are very superstitious. They feel that the posting of a storm thread on this random weather board will change the course of nature. Pretty powerful board if I might say so myself!

Very True.

We have actually offered up several members of the forum as a human sacrifice if certain storms would  go our way. It's why we had the Boxing Day storm and several others that seemed hopeless at the time.

BTW - I'm not suggesting human sacrifice as in their lives. Only that they be banned from posting for the rest of the winter should the storms hit. I would gladly offer up myself as the human sacrifice for this storm if the Euro Control Crapola snow map verifies.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

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Post by heehaw453 Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:14 pm

The NAM is a completely separate animal at 18Z. These are good signs for sure.

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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:16 pm

18z ICON and 18z RGEM are east

I need to find a new hobby. I shouldn't have pit stains from looking at weather models.

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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:32 pm

I was looking at wrong information. The 18z RGEM actually is in line with the 18z NAM. A Roidzilla-esque look.

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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:34 pm

A complete tropospheric phase on the RGEM. That connection all the way from the Arctic is more beautiful than Sunday sauce and that says a lot for me

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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:51 pm

Biggest GFS run since December 24, 2010 coming up

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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:53 pm

18z GFS is looking good...

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Post by nutleyblizzard Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:55 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:I was looking at wrong information. The 18z RGEM actually is in line with the 18z NAM. A Roidzilla-esque look.

MADONNE!!!!!!!!!!!!
You’re killing me man. Meanwhile from the early looks of it the GFS is taking another step towards the EURO.
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Post by adamfitz1969 Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:56 pm

Major changes on the GFS, much improved from yesterday.

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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:57 pm

The GFS looks so good that it may actually be *better* than the EURO

Holy $%^&*(@

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Post by bloc1357 Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:58 pm

Oh boy!!!

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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:59 pm

Here. We. Go!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by bobjohnsonforthehall Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:00 pm

Down to the gulf...gulp!
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