Re: Banter Thread 7.0

[amugs]

Is there no longer a long range thread? No winter predictions?

m6


Let's start one eh?

[amugs]

What happens when we can not "Strategically" replenish this reserve? What then??

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

Please no one take this as a pro trump post because I loathe him more than anyone I can think of, but our current president is a complete moron and has not made one intelligent decision since he’s been in office.

This can’t be our two choices again in 2024. Time for a third party people. Call it the common sense party because neither of the two major parties have any.

[dkodgis]

It is slim pickings. Politics is a pig sty these days and this keeps people off ballots.  Not many have a taste for bare-knuckle, blood and guts interactions with the opposing party. There isn’t choice but there typically has been only a handful to choose from. It just isn’t a pretty picture. I wish we had significant choices, too.

[docstox12]

George Washington, the Father of our country, regretted that political parties would form.He felt that it would lead to rancor, hatred and division, and he was spot in with the Civil War.We are on the verge of one now,I have not seen this much hatred and anger one party for another.I was at a meeting of my classic comedy club yesterday, first one in almost 3 years due to Covid, and a couple of the guys told me a story of a 50 year friend they are losing because of politics.When I was a kid back in the late 50's-early 60's, the news came on at 6:30 and ended at 7.Guys like Huntley and Brinkley read the news from a sheet of paper, no political bias or commentary.Now we have 24/7 "liberal vs conservative" cable news ginning up the people's anger and hatred.

CP's idea of a third party is a good one but will never happen as the "uniparty" dems and reps, will make sure that no competiton happens.The money is not there for a third party.I have aligned myself with a small political party, the Constitution Party.It fits what I support, one can read it's platform online.It is a throwaway vote, but in the People's Republik of NY, voting Republican is a waste of time as it is becoming a one party state.I will still vote Republican locally but will cast my vote for the Constitution Party in 2024 if I am still around.
Bottom line folks is that the massive 31 trillion dollar debt is the 800 pound gorilla in the room and it was created by both parties.In the next 5 years, that issue will become paramount.Praying to God it will be solved.

[sroc4]

Please no one take this as a pro trump post because I loathe him more than anyone I can think of, but our current president is a complete moron and has not made one intelligent decision since he’s been in office.

This can’t be our two choices again in 2024. Time for a third party people. Call it the common sense party because neither of the two major parties have any.

The fact that you even feel the need to say "don't take this as pro Trump" just to point out the obvious is a true microcosm of the state of affairs' in todays politics and in society in general. To simply point out and/or to speak out against these current radical ideologies being pushed by those in charge immediately triggers a knee jerk reaction of many to lump you into some group of which you are not even closely related to. Go back a page or two in this thread to see a great example of this.

There is a phrase that describes this phenomenon. Its called "TRUMP DERAGEMENT SYNDROME"(TDS) and it's a real thing and I think people need to start to realize that. This is a decent definition I found on Wikipedia that describes TDS pretty well:

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a term applied by some writers to describe critics of US President Donald Trump, including liberals and progressives, whom they accuse of responding to statements and political actions by Trump in a manner verging on the irrational, without regard to his actual position or action taken.

I underlined and bolded what I think everyone of us needs to focus on. Because most everyone focuses more on the word Trump. When that name is uttered out loud or simply read in the mind it is plucking a very specific nerve within the vast majority of us, regardless of what side you may be on Almost every single human, certainly in our country, when they read or hear the word "Trump" a very specific physiologic reaction in ones body and mind takes place. I mean that. Actual hormones and neurotransmitter(chemicals in the brain that allow the electrical impulses to move between neurons of your brain--the foundation of conscious thought) get released and suppressed inside the brain and peripherally in the body, that actually affect how we act and what we think. Depending on what side you are on the result of this physiologic reactions determines what the word Trump means and how you react and think about it. There really is no other in recent history that can do this to so many people; although the name Biden is starting to have a similar effect.

To really understand this whole TDS you really have to go back to when he started running for the Republican nomination back in the 2014/2015 time frame. Before i say any more; however, I feel the need to point out a very important fact here. TDS is not limited to liberals and progressives. You can apply TDS to those who merely blindly follow Trump's every word as Gospel, and anything to the contrary is a radical progressive ideology as well. This is the extreme on the other side. But pointing this fact out is extremely important because when you speak out against any aspect of the current radical ideologies being pushed by this current radical group in charge you are immediately lumped into this opposite extreme category. Again Mugsy was a recent victim of this.


Im going to compare TDS to somewhat of a sickness or illness. One that comes on insidiously. So much so that you dont really know its happening. When you are officially diagnosed you are so deep into it that you yourself dont even realize you have it.

Im pulling this part of the def of TDS back up again: without regard to his actual position or action taken.[/i]

The minute Trump won the republican nomination there is a very good reason why both the "estabilshment" with both the Democratic party AS WELL AS within the Republican party have bee going after him. Have you every really stopped to wonder how or why he ever became president in the first place? Its because WE THE PEOPLE had become fed up "the swamp. The swamp included politician within both parties. Half the country voted for him in both his first term as well as his attempt at a second term. Is half the country really in the right wing extreme group? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With the exception of the extremely small fraction of the individuals who do actually fall into that right wing extremist category, the overwhelmingly vast majority of those of us who live in the middle of the political road looked to the IDEA of Trump. Someone who did not adhere the rules of the "establishment" which is the swamp of both parties. Most of us realize that our political system needed someone like Trump to come in like a Tasmanian devil and tear apart the corrupt two party system that has become corrupt beyond belief. The cronies have been fabricating one story after another after another to prevent him from destroying the establishment beginning with the Trump Collusion nonsense that has now been proven to be driven by the Clintons. Anything new about Trump Maralogo coming out? Nope. Because there was nothing there in the first place. Smoke screen after smoke screen in order to divert your attention away from what they are really trying to do. Some of what Trump was actually able to do for the Country in 4 years as president despite having to deal with the establishment throwing one nuke after another at him is actually astounding. Most who suffer from TDS nknow nothing aboyt that. They simply have been slowly fed over and over the sickness of TDS so that no matter what good he may have done Trump was so bad that anything was better than him. Even at the cost of destroying our democracy. Even at the cost of our freedoms.

You do not have to be "Pro Trump" the man to be "Pro Trump" the idea that there are powers that be within both political parties that do not want us, We The People of whom this this great country was founded, to have any control. Dont let cancel culture prevent you from recognizing this. Our country is being taken over by a radical political party that is trying to lead us back to a failed socialist/communist/fascist ideology. We cant let it happen.

TDS is real. Break free from it.

[docstox12]

Please no one take this as a pro trump post because I loathe him more than anyone I can think of, but our current president is a complete moron and has not made one intelligent decision since he’s been in office.

This can’t be our two choices again in 2024. Time for a third party people. Call it the common sense party because neither of the two major parties have any.

OK, CP, I found our guy.Go to 16:30 minutes on this clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1XsTt6rUGk

[GreyBeard]

Those strategic reserves are only supposed to be used in a dire situation, like a complete shut off of oil coming here by unfriendly nations.

I guess Biden considers the up coming election a dire situation with his feeble attempt to garner support for the Democrats by releasing 15 million gallons from those reserves. If he wants to make a real effort, reopen the pipeline.

[docstox12]

Those strategic reserves are only supposed to be used in a dire situation, like a complete shut off of oil coming here by unfriendly nations.

I guess Biden considers the up coming election a dire situation with his feeble attempt to garner support for the Democrats by releasing 15 million gallons from those reserves. If he wants to make a real effort, reopen the pipeline.

As Democrat operative Carville said 30 years ago, "It's the economy, STUPID", a vile and crude statement that helped start the slide to incivility we see today IMO, today's democrats are going to find out very soon it is very accurate.
That 15 million gallons is a drop in the bucket.

[amugs]

The Cabalists and Elitistsbrun every aspect of this country sadly as I have researched. Every corporation, government position, economical, social powers run it. We need a complete reset. I so not take solace in saying such but our systems are broken. We weren't around in 1770' 1850s or 1930s. Why do I point out those years on 80 year cycles is because if you follow cycles we are in another one right now. Those years had much strife and division, yes the 30's had a massive push in 30 n 31 to bring socialism in to solve our economic woes. Massive divide between poor and not, working steady jobs and not. Remember we applauded Hitler in America politics and media and named him Time Magazine Man of the Year. In 1770's only about 5% of colonists took arms and wanted revolution, 1850's we had massive division over what the English have us and the norther industrialists help fan the flames of. 80% plus of Southern Plantations were owned by.....Northern industrialist.

So where are we now. On the verge of the most interesting times of modern history that will be chaotic as this Great Reset takes shape worldwide.
The markets need a reset, housing, bond, stocks, food etc.
Buddy who works on Hunts Pier as a vegetable importer trader said the projections for food is not good into 1Q 2023. Not just veggies but ALL meats, grains and veggies, fruits, dairy.
I flatiron is not 8.3% as the FED and WH try to brainwash us with, real inflation is over 20%.
Energy, now New England has the opportunity to be California of summer this winter with rolling blackouts. Can't imagine this. The rush for firewood is through the roof and wood stoves. Cities wl suffer most, those peeps will. 3-6 hours no heat in an arctic blast with temps un the single digits at night and teens to low 20's during the day?? People are at risk. Those who say IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE ARE IN FOR a big rude awakening.
Faithfully and spiritually now, some don't like tjis but God is our father and creator, I am a person who has experienced a NDE and felt and witnessed it. He is upset with his children, that is us for all the bad and lack of faith n following, leaving him for a woke, evil ideaology that is driven by nefarious people, there will be a price to pay as he will work to flush out evil. His prophets are saying it as well and America is his country and he will not let her go down to evil!! Gideon had an army of 300 and he defeated an army of 20k without lifting a sword. Intervention for sure. We will need his guidance and strength as we move through these trying, strifling times. Thosenperiods I stated earlier....last a decade....plus We have only just begun the fight!! Moses was in the desert for 7 years after years of martyrdom by his people, Revolution War..a decade from when acts of revolution began, civil war a decade from when succession and division ramped up 1930's Great depression through WW2 lasted 16 years. You have to face facts, we have to get worse and then rebuild. It's called death to life. The cycle of life peeps. Be ready, stock up, it's going to be incredible. Buckle Up!

[docstox12]

Aside from the issues Mugsy mentions, I believe the "Great Reset" is going to happen because of our accumulated 31 trillion of public government debt as well as over 300 trillion of worldwide debt.
Prior to 1913 when the Federal Reserve Banking System and permanent income tax was made law, the US Government was small enough that a private person, J.Pierpont Morgan, could bail it out.There were no social welfare programs and the military was small.Income tax was only collected for brief periods, such as right after the Civil War ,to pay off the debt that war accumulated.When income tax was made permanent, it opened the door for politicians to distribute monies to gather votes.With a gold standard in place,they could only spend so much.In the Depression  of the early 1930's, FDR arbitrarily , by "executive order", an odious practice in a so called democracy, raised the price of gold from 20 to 35 dollars an ounce and banned anyone from owning it.That increased the money supply so he could spend on programs like the CCC.Fast forward to 1971, when the last vestige of the gold standard was removed by Nixon.Now, the last leash that kept spending politicians to heel, democrats with social welfare programs and republicans with tax cuts and militaryt spending, was removed.Reagan wanted to cut taxes when he came in.His budgetary director ,David Stockman, accurately said that if tax cuts were made, commensurate reductions in spending would have to happen.Tax cuts are great IF you are running a balanced budget with no debt on the books.Democrats screamed bloody murder at the cuts proposed to social welfare programs with the obligatory "pushing the little old lady in a wheelchair off a cliff" ads as a result of cuts to social security and medicare.Spending cuts were not made and the tax cuts began to add to government debt.Paul Volcker who led the Fed back then ,assured people that since they owned the printing presses, everything would be OK.That beagn the era of marxist MMT, Modern Monetary Theory, proposed by economic "intellectuals" like Stephanie Kelton, that states public or government debt can be run up indefinitely as long as it is in the sovereign currency, the dollar.Fine and dandy as long as the dollar is the world's reserve currency.Sadly, the percentage of it being  the world's reserve currency fell from 74% in 2000 to a little over 50% today.If it stops being that, then the accumulated 31 trillion of public US debt will cause inflation like the Weimar Republic in Germany or Zimbabwe in Africa.I post this so it alerts everybody that , hopefully,when the reset happens , a new solid system of finance and economy will be set up.such as the gold standard that the US successfully used for many years.Please learn about all that I have posted so this travesty of accumulating huge debts will never happen again.

[HectorO]

Man.... this truly has become a banter thread lol. Religion, politics, all the things that start wars.

[amugs]

@Doc
FDR arbitrarily , by "executive order", an odious practice in a so called democracy, raised the price of gold from 20 to 35 dollars an ounce and banned anyone from owning it.

My great grandfather and friends grandfather all owned gold coins and the government confiscated it from them. Where are our repirations for this? (I am being sarcastic but hey why not?)They never were paid but told it was for the good of the country and to do your democratic duty as a citizen.

Hmmmmm....sounds all to familiar.

DOC and the debts are infathomable 1000 million seconds is 11.5 days - 1 billion seconds is 31 years 7 months , 1 trillion seconds is 31,710 years - put that into perspective!!!! This will be reset to be wiped out and this may get ugly. Markets may have a tumultous week.

[docstox12]

@Doc
FDR arbitrarily , by "executive order", an odious practice in a so called democracy, raised the price of gold from 20 to 35 dollars an ounce and banned anyone from owning it.

My great grandfathe rand friends grandfather all owned gold coins and the government confiscated it from them. Where are our repirations for this? (I am being sarcastic but hey why not?)They never were paid but told it was for the good of the country and to do your democratic duty as a citizen.

Hmmmmm....sounds all to familiar.

DOC and the debts are infathomable 1000 million seconds is 11.5 days - 1 buillions econds is 31 years 7 months , 1 trillion seconds is 31,710 years - put that into perspective!!!! This will be reset to be wiped out and this may get ugly. Markets may have a tumultous week.

Mugs, there is an old Edgar Kennedy short comedy where his neighbor sees him counting gold coins and threatens to rat Edgar out for still owning them.I'm sure many people hid them away but it was many years before you could legally own gold again.They made an exception for numismatic gold coins.I could have bought 20 dollar gold pieces for 40 bucks a pop when gold was 35 an ounce.Now, they are over 1600.Was flat broke back then in the late 60's,LOL.

We are at 31 trillion but worldwide central bank debt is over 300 trillion.Great reset indeed!

[amugs]

This would align what I posted in the Long Range thread - eye candy for sure but fun to look at

[docstox12]

This would align what I posted in the Long Range thread - eye candy for sure but fun to look at

Now THAT'S the banter we all love! At least the eye candy maps are starting to appear!

[frank 638]

Hard to believe we are approaching the 10 th anniversary. Lee Goldberg will be on tonight at 8 pm showing the history of the storm

[amugs]

I see going forward as I mentioned a few weeks ago xtreme weather ramping and record breaking temps - both heat and cold, storms is a given. DOnt be surprised by record swings in temps even this winter I'd surmise looking at patterns and drivers.

Our magnetic poles are shifting bigly casuing some of this and well many natural species issues - birds, wahles, seals and other species migrating to areas never seen, washing up on shores in distant places from before, all in modern times, and acting in strange ways as well. Bears becoming much more aggressive - black bears especially as are birds normally docile. Their internal compass is all thrown off by this shift and the magnetic pole shift is increasing in its movement. What a time to be alive!!

[Frank_Wx]

I see going forward as I mentioned a few weeks ago xtreme weather ramping and record breaking temps - both heat and cold, storms is a given. DOnt be surprised by record swings in temps even this winter I'd surmise looking at patterns and drivers.

Our magnetic poles are shifting bigly casuing some of this and well many natural species issues - birds, wahles, seals and other species migrating to areas never seen, washing up on shores in distant places from before, all in modern times, and acting in strange ways as well. Bears becoming much more aggressive - black bears especially as are birds normally docile. Their internal compass is all thrown off by this shift and the magnetic pole shift is increasing in its movement. What a time to be alive!!

Hey Mugs, do you have an article where I can read up more on this? First time I'm hearing about it.

[sroc4]

I see going forward as I mentioned a few weeks ago xtreme weather ramping and record breaking temps - both heat and cold, storms is a given. DOnt be surprised by record swings in temps even this winter I'd surmise looking at patterns and drivers.

Our magnetic poles are shifting bigly casuing some of this and well many natural species issues - birds, wahles, seals and other species migrating to areas never seen, washing up on shores in distant places from before, all in modern times, and acting in strange ways as well. Bears becoming much more aggressive - black bears especially as are birds normally docile. Their internal compass is all thrown off by this shift and the magnetic pole shift is increasing in its movement. What a time to be alive!!

Hey Mugs, do you have an article where I can read up more on this? First time I'm hearing about it.

Frank this should get you started.    

https://phys.org/news/2021-02-earth-magnetic-field-broke-years.html

https://magneticreversal.org/

Here is a catalogue on the subject through the lens of Ben Davidson.  In many of these videos he references various papers etc that get linked in the description box below the videos.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=magnetic+pole+shift+suspicious+observers

[amugs]

I see going forward as I mentioned a few weeks ago xtreme weather ramping and record breaking temps - both heat and cold, storms is a given. DOnt be surprised by record swings in temps even this winter I'd surmise looking at patterns and drivers.

Our magnetic poles are shifting bigly casuing some of this and well many natural species issues - birds, wahles, seals and other species migrating to areas never seen, washing up on shores in distant places from before, all in modern times, and acting in strange ways as well. Bears becoming much more aggressive - black bears especially as are birds normally docile. Their internal compass is all thrown off by this shift and the magnetic pole shift is increasing in its movement. What a time to be alive!!

Hey Mugs, do you have an article where I can read up more on this? First time I'm hearing about it.

Frank this should get you started.    

https://phys.org/news/2021-02-earth-magnetic-field-broke-years.html

https://magneticreversal.org/

Here is a catalogue on the subject through the lens of Ben Davidson.  In many of these videos he references various papers etc that get linked in the description box below the videos.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=magnetic+pole+shift+suspicious+observers

Thanks Scott for putting this together. Excelent sources of information that all should know about and utilize. It will put into place many answers for what is naturally occurring on our planet. We have little control over this but can prepare as needed. Not to mention our solar system planets as well that are having the same type of effects.

[sroc4]

I see going forward as I mentioned a few weeks ago xtreme weather ramping and record breaking temps - both heat and cold, storms is a given. DOnt be surprised by record swings in temps even this winter I'd surmise looking at patterns and drivers.

Our magnetic poles are shifting bigly casuing some of this and well many natural species issues - birds, wahles, seals and other species migrating to areas never seen, washing up on shores in distant places from before, all in modern times, and acting in strange ways as well. Bears becoming much more aggressive - black bears especially as are birds normally docile. Their internal compass is all thrown off by this shift and the magnetic pole shift is increasing in its movement. What a time to be alive!!

Hey Mugs, do you have an article where I can read up more on this? First time I'm hearing about it.

Frank this should get you started.    

https://phys.org/news/2021-02-earth-magnetic-field-broke-years.html

https://magneticreversal.org/

Here is a catalogue on the subject through the lens of Ben Davidson.  In many of these videos he references various papers etc that get linked in the description box below the videos.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=magnetic+pole+shift+suspicious+observers

Thanks Scott for putting this together. Excellent sources of information that all should know about and utilize. It will put into place many answers for what is naturally occurring on our planet. We have little control over this but can prepare as needed. Not to mention our solar system planets as well that are having the same type of effects.

I found it very interesting that when doing a simple google, duck duck go, or brave search of magnetic pole shift you will find most if not all of the NOAA, NASA,USGS or other governmental agency articles on the topic quickly state that nothing is imminent and brush over the idea that even though the magnetic field has been weakening at an accelerated rate, they seem to know for a fact that there is nothing to worry about at all.  The last "attempted" reversal is documented to be about 40-42K years ago as documented by a well preserved ancient tree that was alive during that period.  
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/18/969063568/ancient-trees-show-when-the-earths-magnetic-field-last-flipped-out

https://www.gaia.com/article/magnetic-pole-reversal

One sign currently being observed is that the magnetic shield surrounding Earth is weakening at a faster rate than originally assumed. Over the past few centuries, the magnetic field weakened at a rate of 5 percent, but over the past few decades it has weakened at 10 percent. This is some of the strongest evidence a flip is about to occur.


It is a well know fact that the earths magnetic field protects the earth from the continuous bombardment of the suns charged particles.  It is also a known that the relative strength of the magnetic field can have overall indirect effects on the earths ozone layer as the suns radiation bombards the upper and lower levels of the atmosphere.      

Now I am by no means calling for the sky to fall, I want that to very be clear on that, but let's point out that the official governmental narrative is that climate change/warming is all man made via CO2 emissions.  So....

I will pose this question.  Since we know the magnetic field deflects most of the suns harmful energy away from our planet, and the energy sent to us is in the form of heat energy (ie: when the sun comes up the air warms right?), is it possible that a weakened magnetic field ends up leading to far more of that energy, in the form of UV light, radiation an other charged particles, end up adding heat energy into the system the system as a whole such that the system as a whole might eventually warm?  

Again because the official narrative is man made global warming, if these governmental agencies were to entertain this hypothesis that is based in actual observable science, the that would open up a window of discussion that involves other natural causes to our current climate changes.  

This is from the USGS government site:  https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/are-we-about-have-magnetic-reversal

Are we about to have a magnetic reversal?
Almost certainly not.

What a joke.  Again what I am saying is not that I have proof that any of this is imminent in our life time or our kids, but to make a statement like the one above is nothing more than saying to me and you...sorry we cant acknowledge this possibility because it means some or perhaps all of the climates changes over the past 100yrs could be of natural causes and we cant push our agendas if we open these discussions.

[amugs]

Davidson believes by 2030ish at the rates of the Magnetic Field waning, weaking we may see it being down by 40- 50% and the persent rate of acceleration extrapolated out.
Scott great questions and hypothesis of this. Those charged partricles have tremendous amounts of energies bundled up in protons and gamma rays. The Ozone hole, remember that catastrophy we wee feed in teh 80's adn 90's and went away only to come back for diferent reasons was the largets recorded over the South Pole this winter. Let's see what the scientific research comes up with about this in teh montsh ahead.

[docstox12]

Excellent discussion Doc, and the key to it all is your statement that it doesn't fit the "AGENDA".
No way they can come up with anything that would change that magnetic field from weakening.
I would love to see a study of the strength of that magnetic field when over where I sit , there was a lot of water millions of years ago and then the strength when there was 100 feet of ice millions of years later.

[docstox12]

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[sroc4]

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[weatherwatchermom]

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