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Post by Taffy Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:12 pm

What is an "owl"

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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:13 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:I'm triying to follow this on my phone and I'm thoroughly confused also. I though I saw someone say the NAM was warmer and brought rain into the mid HV and 15 minutes later I'm hearing NWS is upping amounts and things are trending colder. I love the new upton map but is the confidence increasing.  

Just because the NAM is warm (it wasn't for you by the way) doesn't mean these national weather services will follow it. Like I always say, we as forecasters use models for guidance. Not to take them verbatim.

I know, not fully understanding what Upton is seeing driving those totals that far south, 10-14" on Staten Island? IDK, the Mt. Holly map falls more in line with my thinking.

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Post by Sparky Sparticles Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:13 pm

tigernumba1 wrote:KEEP TRENDING COLDER!!

I'm only a member to these forums for about 24 hours, but already I see you guys are crazy!!  lol! 

You *want* multi-feet of snow???

I haven't been able to get my car out for about 3 weeks now and am so happy there's a mom and pop grocery store within walking distance so I can at least get fresh veggies and bread and restock the freezer with overpriced bags of veg & fruit. Hubby takes public transportation to work and we live within walking distance to light rail, so he has no trouble getting his PATH train to Newark most days. Even if we did dig out, the parking space on the street would be gone within nano-seconds of pulling out and we'd find nothing when we got home again, so why bother?

You guys may be having fun with all this snow, but I'm counting the days until spring!  flower sunny
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Post by docstox12 Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:14 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:I'm triying to follow this on my phone and I'm thoroughly confused also. I though I saw someone say the NAM was warmer and brought rain into the mid HV and 15 minutes later I'm hearing NWS is upping amounts and things are trending colder. I love the new upton map but is the confidence increasing.  

Just because the NAM is warm (it wasn't for you by the way) doesn't mean these national weather services will follow it. Like I always say, we as forecasters use models for guidance. Not to take them verbatim.

NWS must be buying that warmer NAM because I was all snow earlier, but now they have snow and freezing rain, snow sleet and freezing rain, then all snow.Same totals, though 10 to 18 inches.

If I'm going to mix up here,the City, Shore and LI will certainly do so.
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:15 pm

Sparky Sparticles wrote:
tigernumba1 wrote:KEEP TRENDING COLDER!!

I'm only a member to these forums for about 24 hours, but already I see you guys are crazy!!  lol! 

You *want* multi-feet of snow???

I haven't been able to get my car out for about 3 weeks now and am so happy there's a mom and pop grocery store within walking distance so I can at least get fresh veggies and bread and restock the freezer with overpriced bags of veg & fruit. Hubby takes public transportation to work and we live within walking distance to light rail, so he has no trouble getting his PATH train to Newark most days. Even if we did dig out, the parking space on the street would be gone within nano-seconds of pulling out and we'd find nothing when we got home again, so why bother?

You guys may be having fun with all this snow, but I'm counting the days until spring!  flower sunny

In the burbs I don't have these issues, still got room, what do cities do with the snow?
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Post by Frank_Wx Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:15 pm

Taffy wrote:What is an "owl"

It autocorrected my wow 

Lol

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Post by Taffy Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:16 pm

lmao..okay. I was thinking what is an owl and why am I watching it?
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Post by tigernumba1 Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:17 pm

Sparky Sparticles wrote:
tigernumba1 wrote:KEEP TRENDING COLDER!!

I'm only a member to these forums for about 24 hours, but already I see you guys are crazy!!  lol! 

You *want* multi-feet of snow???

I haven't been able to get my car out for about 3 weeks now and am so happy there's a mom and pop grocery store within walking distance so I can at least get fresh veggies and bread and restock the freezer with overpriced bags of veg & fruit. Hubby takes public transportation to work and we live within walking distance to light rail, so he has no trouble getting his PATH train to Newark most days. Even if we did dig out, the parking space on the street would be gone within nano-seconds of pulling out and we'd find nothing when we got home again, so why bother?

You guys may be having fun with all this snow, but I'm counting the days until spring!  flower sunny

Don't get me wrong I love the warmer months too. I just LOVE snow and watching it pile up during the winter is fun to see. Thats the beauty of living here, getting all four seasons. Currently we are in winter so it should SNOW and SNOW only. lol
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Post by Dunnzoo Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:18 pm

Haha Sparky! You have fallen into a den of Winter Weather Weenies! We don't get many big storms, but when we do...we are ALL IN! No sleep, no productivity at work..... it is exciting for us to see how these storms develop and to try to understand the dynamics behind them....hope you get to use your car soon!

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:18 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:I'm triying to follow this on my phone and I'm thoroughly confused also. I though I saw someone say the NAM was warmer and brought rain into the mid HV and 15 minutes later I'm hearing NWS is upping amounts and things are trending colder. I love the new upton map but is the confidence increasing.  

Just because the NAM is warm (it wasn't for you by the way) doesn't mean these national weather services will follow it. Like I always say, we as forecasters use models for guidance. Not to take them verbatim.

They must have finally seen what you've been telling us. It's going to be a very interesting next 48 hours.
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Post by jbnyy224 Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:20 pm

NjWeatherGuy wrote:
Sparky Sparticles wrote:
tigernumba1 wrote:KEEP TRENDING COLDER!!

I'm only a member to these forums for about 24 hours, but already I see you guys are crazy!!  lol! 

You *want* multi-feet of snow???

I haven't been able to get my car out for about 3 weeks now and am so happy there's a mom and pop grocery store within walking distance so I can at least get fresh veggies and bread and restock the freezer with overpriced bags of veg & fruit. Hubby takes public transportation to work and we live within walking distance to light rail, so he has no trouble getting his PATH train to Newark most days. Even if we did dig out, the parking space on the street would be gone within nano-seconds of pulling out and we'd find nothing when we got home again, so why bother?

You guys may be having fun with all this snow, but I'm counting the days until spring!  flower sunny

In the burbs I don't have these issues, still got room, what do cities do with the snow?

I know in Manhattan they plow it and dump it in the 2 rivers. We still have a ton of snow in Brooklyn. Big mounds of it everywhere as well as full accumulation on almost every sidewalk and street corner. Has been this way for a lot of the winter. Very rare we maintain a snow pack of any kind in the urban areas, even with cold. This winter is special. I love walking to the subway every morning through the snowy streets. This is what it should be like, cold and snowy for months! Fingers crossed for a foot with this next storm "pax" Ugh TWC. Bye.

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Post by RJB8525 Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:21 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:02/13 Godzilla Storm Obs. Thread / Final Discussions  - Page 8 Image


Wow owlsWow owls

Whoa..
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:21 pm

Wow that's interesting, they dump it in the river? I guess that's the only logical place.
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Post by Frank_Wx Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:22 pm

Oh...my...god....

If this comes to fruition NJ would become the North Pole and polar bears will become the common species 

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Post by RJB8525 Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:23 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:Oh...my...god....

If this comes to fruition NJ would become the North Pole and polar bears will become the common species 

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i'm not even kidding my heart fluttered when i saw this
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:23 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:Oh...my...god....

If this comes to fruition NJ would become the North Pole and polar bears will become the common species 

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Around 2 feet IMBY? I am nearly certain this will not verify.
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Post by Frank_Wx Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:24 pm

Probably not. Fun to look at. That's amazing. The CCB trains over NJ for hours and brings 6-12 inches in just 7 hours.

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Post by oldtimer Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:25 pm

Mets Thank God We finally got something to be happy about Long time wait LI Unbelievable

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Post by Dunnzoo Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:27 pm

But even if you take a third off it is still impressive...holy sh** me, mugsy and doc ain't goin' nowhere Friday!

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Post by Sparky Sparticles Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:27 pm

NjWeatherGuy wrote:
In the burbs I don't have these issues, still got room, what do cities do with the snow?

They eventually load as much as they can into dump trucks and just pile it up in city and county park parking lots. They used to dump it into Newark Bay, but the EPA got after them and stopped that practice because of all the garbage that was plowed up with the snow also going into the local waters. You should see the piles of debris leftover when the snow mountains melt in early spring - disgusting!
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Post by aiannone Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:29 pm

wow, I would assume LI gets hit with that band nicely too.

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Post by tigernumba1 Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:29 pm

oldtimer wrote:Mets   Thank God We finally got something to be happy about  Long time wait LI   Unbelievable

I know the feeling. LI always seems to be right on that damn R/S line. It is cool though living on LI cause we get many different weather conditions.
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Post by RJB8525 Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:30 pm

Sparky Sparticles wrote:
NjWeatherGuy wrote:
In the burbs I don't have these issues, still got room, what do cities do with the snow?

They eventually load as much as they can into dump trucks and just pile it up in city and county park parking lots. They used to dump it into Newark Bay, but the EPA got after them and stopped that practice because of all the garbage that was plowed up with the snow also going into the local waters. You should see the piles of debris leftover when the snow mountains melt in early spring - disgusting!

De Blasio just leaves it on the streets
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Post by mhbaben Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:32 pm

To Sparky
I started watching these guys on the ole 7 online chatroom. At that time I was responsible to remove snow in Manhattan from a 3 block area with little crew. When they would hoop and holler, I would cry. They really know their stuff though. I'm in awe. They are weather guys, so of COURSE they want to see weather. I'm on board now too as I retired
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Post by docstox12 Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:39 pm

Clouds lowering and thickening.23 degrees here.Sky has "SNOW" written all over it.
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Post by sroc4 Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:42 pm

Dunnzoo wrote:Haha Sparky! You have fallen into a den of Winter Weather Weenies! We don't get many big storms, but when we do...we are ALL IN! No sleep, no productivity at work..... it is exciting for us to see how these storms develop and to try to understand the dynamics behind them....hope you get to use your car soon!

Nail on the head Janet. Esp the no productivity at work thing.

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Post by Dtone Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:42 pm

NjWeatherGuy wrote:Wow that's interesting, they dump it in the river? I guess that's the only logical place.

I thought that was illegal now in NYC. I remember the 95-96 winter they had to do that. In more recent years I've seen snow melting machines a few times but I think they only pull those out in extreme cases and/or for major events like new yrs eve in times sq etc.
Only time I seen such measures taken outside Manhattan was after the blizzard of 96 when I saw the city truck snow away from busier streets in the bx.

NWS 10-14 for (parts of) NYC..nice!

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