Re: Official Long Range Thread 6.0

by **Frank_Wx** Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:36 pm

And the thing with Boston is, CP, is their snow depth. You have 20 inches. They might be at 50. I don't even know.

by **CPcantmeasuresnow** Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:46 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:And the thing with Boston is, CP, is their snow depth. You have 20 inches. They might be at 50. I don't even know.

The funny thins is Frank, you have to differentiate between snow that has fallen and actual snow depth.

As I'm sure you know snow compresses upon itself over time, as it fills in air pockets and just from the weight of the snow on top of the other snow. Before this latest event the snow depth in Boston was 22 inches but I believe 42 inches had fallen in the last week. A little of this difference would be melting but not much this time of year most of it is just from compression and settling.

I remember when Buffalo had one of their big blizzards a couple of years ago they received 70 something inches of snow over several days and the maximum snow depth was 45 inches during the event. The snow depth was down in the 20s a couple of days later, and the temperature had not warmed. That's what makes it much harder to melt a 2 foot snowpack that's been around for several weeks and has absorbed rain and snow and compressed itself than it is to melt a fresh 2 foot snowpack. There's a lot more liquid compressed into an older snowpack than the new one and it becomes the same as if you wanted to evaporate 6 inches of liquid which may be compressed into an older 2 foot snowpack, versus 2 inches of liquid which may be in a fresh 2 foot snowpack. Enough science for today my head hurts.

One thing I should add to that is that high ratio snows, in other words dryer snows at colder temperatures settle and compress to a much higher ratio initially, than very high liquid content snows because there are far fewer air pockets to fill in a high liquid contents snow.

Back to work.

by **docstox12** Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:52 pm

Enjoyed that little webinar CP on compression.

Excellent dissertation and I learned from it.

by **devsman** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:11 pm

Hopefully thursdays storm explodes enough for NYC- and East. I need another day off. And the RED SOX SUCK has had enough snow this year. We need to be back in play.

by **rb924119** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:14 pm

EURO's not nearly as impressed with the system for Thursday as the GFS/CMC are; later coastal development.

by **rb924119** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:15 pm

devsman wrote:Hopefully thursdays storm explodes enough for NYC- and East. I need another day off. And the RED SOX SUCK has had enough snow this year. We need to be back in play.

Frank actually did it ahahahaha Omg that's too funny

by **SoulSingMG** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:16 pm

EURO 12z is not impressed at all.

by **snow247** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:18 pm

Imagine if we all lived in Boston right now. With a 50" snowpack and more snow on the way, I wouldn't know what to do lol.

by **Dunnzoo** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:20 pm

snow247 wrote:Imagine if we all lived in Boston right now. With a 50" snowpack and more snow on the way, I wouldn't know what to do lol.

We'd all be in an Irish pub waiting for more! drunken

by **devsman** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:21 pm

rb924119 wrote:
devsman wrote:Hopefully thursdays storm explodes enough for NYC- and East. I need another day off. And the RED SOX SUCK has had enough snow this year. We need to be back in play.

Frank actually did it ahahahaha Omg that's too funny

No, he didn't but I thought it was a wonderful idea! Very Happy

by **rb924119** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:24 pm

devsman wrote:
rb924119 wrote:
devsman wrote:Hopefully thursdays storm explodes enough for NYC- and East. I need another day off. And the RED SOX SUCK has had enough snow this year. We need to be back in play.

Frank actually did it ahahahaha Omg that's too funny

No, he didn't but I thought it was a wonderful idea!

Well you fooled me ahaha That was great, I can't lie ahaha

by **rb924119** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:25 pm

EURO's trying like H3LL for Sunday, though lol

by **rb924119** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:28 pm

NYC even gets the goods on this run.....sighhhhh

by **SoulSingMG** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:29 pm

Woahhhhhh @ hr 135

by **rb924119** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:29 pm

I'm seeing Juno all over again on this run -_-

by **CPcantmeasuresnow** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:33 pm

snow247 wrote:Imagine if we all lived in Boston right now. With a 50" snowpack and more snow on the way, I wouldn't know what to do lol.

Red Sox Suck do not have a 50 inch snow pack now. Please read my webinar on previous page about snow compression.

And please no more references to Red Sox Suck, it's making me ill.

by **CPcantmeasuresnow** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:35 pm

devsman wrote:Hopefully thursdays storm explodes enough for NYC- and East. I need another day off. And the RED SOX SUCK has had enough snow this year. We need to be back in play.

Nice job Devs.

I'm hoping Frank really does make the change.

by **snow247** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:37 pm

rb924119 wrote:I'm seeing Juno all over again on this run -_-

Still several days away.... Smile

by **snow247** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:38 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
snow247 wrote:Imagine if we all lived in Boston right now. With a 50" snowpack and more snow on the way, I wouldn't know what to do lol.

Red Sox Suck do not have a 50 inch snow pack now. Please read my webinar on previous page about snow compression.

And please no more references to Red Sox Suck, it's making me ill.

I know they don't haha, I was exaggerating.

by **CPcantmeasuresnow** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:40 pm

snow247 wrote:
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
snow247 wrote:Imagine if we all lived in Boston right now. With a 50" snowpack and more snow on the way, I wouldn't know what to do lol.

Red Sox Suck do not have a 50 inch snow pack now. Please read my webinar on previous page about snow compression.

And please no more references to Red Sox Suck, it's making me ill.

I know they don't haha, I was exaggerating.

But if this trend continues they will. Sickening.

by **snow247** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:42 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
snow247 wrote:
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
snow247 wrote:Imagine if we all lived in Boston right now. With a 50" snowpack and more snow on the way, I wouldn't know what to do lol.

Red Sox Suck do not have a 50 inch snow pack now. Please read my webinar on previous page about snow compression.

And please no more references to Red Sox Suck, it's making me ill.

I know they don't haha, I was exaggerating.

But if this trend continues they will. Sickening.

We will get ours.

by **Math23x7** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:46 pm

I hate to say this but this Saturday is a time in which I do NOT want a blizzard. We are celebrating my grandmother's 90th birthday this weekend and we have relatives not only from NYC/LI coming, but also from Flemington, NJ, Maryland, Texas, and Colorado. My family has planned this for a long time now...

by **devsman** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:50 pm

Math23x7 wrote:I hate to say this but this Saturday is a time in which I do NOT want a blizzard. We are celebrating my grandmother's 90th birthday this weekend and we have relatives not only from NYC/LI coming, but also from Flemington, NJ, Maryland, Texas, and Colorado. My family has planned this for a long time now...

I know the feeling. Isles game on thursday with both of my bros. Most likely last time we will all be in that arena together for a game. Hope snow holds off for overnight.

by **dkodgis** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:55 pm

Does the banner "potential exists for heavier snowfall" mean on Thurs or the weekend?

by **dkodgis** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:58 pm

If we get a few more good snows -say three to four- over the rest of Feb and March and then near April 1 we get a heavy rain...repeat of about ten years ago when there was about two feet of snow covering and nine inches of rain came to melt it all at once. Flooding was bad. I wonder if this is going to be the case in six weeks?

by **CPcantmeasuresnow** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:58 pm

dkodgis wrote:Does the banner "potential exists for heavier snowfall" mean on Thurs or the weekend?

I'm pretty sure it's referencing Thursday/Friday event

by **GreyBeard** Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:59 pm

Math23x7 wrote:I hate to say this but this Saturday is a time in which I do NOT want a blizzard. We are celebrating my grandmother's 90th birthday this weekend and we have relatives not only from NYC/LI coming, but also from Flemington, NJ, Maryland, Texas, and Colorado. My family has planned this for a long time now...

Math, Just got back from celebrating my Dad's 90TH. this past Saturday. 75° and sunny down in ft. Lauderdale,fla. Was rough coming back home. Family came from all over too. Congrats to Grandma,hope everyone get in safely.

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