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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by Math23x7 Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:46 pm
Since there are 365+1 days in the year (+1 being for leap years), there are 365+1 record highs and 365+1 record lows for each day in the year. Entering today, the lowest record high temperature during the year belonged to February 7th at 54* in 1938. That's right, from 1869 to 2019 every date during the year had a high temperature at or above 55 degrees at one point....except 2/7. That changed today when it hit a high of 56*, making it a new record high.
Even with the new record, February 7th still has the lowest record high temperature. The second lowest, at 58*, is for two dates: December 19th and January 16th.
Even with the new record, February 7th still has the lowest record high temperature. The second lowest, at 58*, is for two dates: December 19th and January 16th.
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by CPcantmeasuresnow Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:22 am
I've touched on this subject quite a bit the last two years, but now that we're down to the last three weeks I thought it would be a good time to review where NYC, Central Park specifically, stands in the quest for a 30 inch snowfall average when the new 30 year averages are calculated next month.
For those not aware how it works the 30 year snowfall averages will be calculated for the period from January 1991 through December 2020. In short this will mean say goodbye to the 1980's from the averages, which hold the record as the least snowiest decade recorded.
Assuming NOAA calculates the averages for each month by rounding up or down to the nearest tenth of an inch, the months who have their 30 years completed look as follows:
October..........0.1
November.....0.5
December.....4.9 (29 year avg) final number to be determined
January.........8.7
February......10.1
March............5.0
April..............0.4
May..................T
The 30 year average calculated now would be 29.7 inches.
To get December to a 5.2 average, or in this case 5.15 which should round up to 5.2, Central Park will need to record 11.3 inches of snow this December, which is what will be needed to get the 30 year average to 30.0 inches. Currently the December 1991 -2020 period averages 4.773 inches which would round to 4.8 and would make the 30 year average 29.6 inches if no snow falls this December.
Here's to hoping that if Wednesday is indeed a surprise heavy snowfall for the city, the Conservancy? doesn't measure 11.2 inches and leave us hanging for the rest of the month.
Any interested parties please check the above numbers.
And we wait for the final returns.
For those not aware how it works the 30 year snowfall averages will be calculated for the period from January 1991 through December 2020. In short this will mean say goodbye to the 1980's from the averages, which hold the record as the least snowiest decade recorded.
Assuming NOAA calculates the averages for each month by rounding up or down to the nearest tenth of an inch, the months who have their 30 years completed look as follows:
October..........0.1
November.....0.5
December.....4.9 (29 year avg) final number to be determined
January.........8.7
February......10.1
March............5.0
April..............0.4
May..................T
The 30 year average calculated now would be 29.7 inches.
To get December to a 5.2 average, or in this case 5.15 which should round up to 5.2, Central Park will need to record 11.3 inches of snow this December, which is what will be needed to get the 30 year average to 30.0 inches. Currently the December 1991 -2020 period averages 4.773 inches which would round to 4.8 and would make the 30 year average 29.6 inches if no snow falls this December.
Here's to hoping that if Wednesday is indeed a surprise heavy snowfall for the city, the Conservancy? doesn't measure 11.2 inches and leave us hanging for the rest of the month.
Any interested parties please check the above numbers.
And we wait for the final returns.
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by Frank_Wx Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:07 am
You just know 12 inches will fall Wednesday and the zookeeper measures 11. It is 2020 after all
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by docstox12 Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:07 am
Frank_Wx wrote:You just know 12 inches will fall Wednesday and the zookeeper measures 11. It is 2020 after all
Yes, just enough to leave CP's 30 year average at 29.999999999999999999999874537 inches. NOT 30!
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by CPcantmeasuresnow Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:13 pm
docstox12 wrote:Frank_Wx wrote:You just know 12 inches will fall Wednesday and the zookeeper measures 11. It is 2020 after all
Yes, just enough to leave CP's 30 year average at 29.999999999999999999999874537 inches. NOT 30!
You both know it.
Central Park will measure 11.2 inches as a total somehow this month, even if their lucky enough to have two feet fall.
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by CPcantmeasuresnow Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:16 pm
Just bumping this up top so people that care know what's at stake the next three weeks for the city and what Frank, Doc and I were discussing.
I've touched on this subject quite a bit the last two years, but now that we're down to the last three weeks I thought it would be a good time to review where NYC, Central Park specifically, stands in the quest for a 30 inch snowfall average when the new 30 year averages are calculated next month.
For those not aware how it works the 30 year snowfall averages will be calculated for the period from January 1991 through December 2020. In short this will mean say goodbye to the 1980's from the averages, which hold the record as the least snowiest decade recorded.
Assuming NOAA calculates the averages for each month by rounding up or down to the nearest tenth of an inch, the months who have their 30 years completed look as follows:
October..........0.1
November.....0.5
December.....4.9 (29 year avg) final number to be determined
January.........8.7
February......10.1
March............5.0
April..............0.4
May..................T
The 30 year average calculated now would be 29.7 inches.
To get December to a 5.2 average, or in this case 5.15 which should round up to 5.2, Central Park will need to record 11.3 inches of snow this December, which is what will be needed to get the 30 year average to 30.0 inches. Currently the December 1991 -2020 period averages 4.773 inches which would round to 4.8 and would make the 30 year average 29.6 inches if no snow falls this December.
Here's to hoping that if Wednesday is indeed a surprise heavy snowfall for the city, the Conservancy? doesn't measure 11.2 inches and leave us hanging for the rest of the month.
Any interested parties please check the above numbers.
And we wait for the final returns.
I've touched on this subject quite a bit the last two years, but now that we're down to the last three weeks I thought it would be a good time to review where NYC, Central Park specifically, stands in the quest for a 30 inch snowfall average when the new 30 year averages are calculated next month.
For those not aware how it works the 30 year snowfall averages will be calculated for the period from January 1991 through December 2020. In short this will mean say goodbye to the 1980's from the averages, which hold the record as the least snowiest decade recorded.
Assuming NOAA calculates the averages for each month by rounding up or down to the nearest tenth of an inch, the months who have their 30 years completed look as follows:
October..........0.1
November.....0.5
December.....4.9 (29 year avg) final number to be determined
January.........8.7
February......10.1
March............5.0
April..............0.4
May..................T
The 30 year average calculated now would be 29.7 inches.
To get December to a 5.2 average, or in this case 5.15 which should round up to 5.2, Central Park will need to record 11.3 inches of snow this December, which is what will be needed to get the 30 year average to 30.0 inches. Currently the December 1991 -2020 period averages 4.773 inches which would round to 4.8 and would make the 30 year average 29.6 inches if no snow falls this December.
Here's to hoping that if Wednesday is indeed a surprise heavy snowfall for the city, the Conservancy? doesn't measure 11.2 inches and leave us hanging for the rest of the month.
Any interested parties please check the above numbers.
And we wait for the final returns.
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by sroc4 Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:58 pm
CP it really is crazy how for years you’ve been discussing this and here we are. The potential exists right there in front of us. Last call. So order up!
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:57 am
These are the top 20 storms in NYC, with the storms of the 2000's highlighted in red. Amazing how they have filled the top ten in the last 20 years.
To get on the list this storm would have to exceed 15.2 inches in Central Park. I'd love to see it happen but doubting it does. More realistic is the 11.3 inches I keep touting so the 30 year average gets to 30 inches for the Jan 1991 to Dec 2020 calculations to come out next month. It would be nice to get both but I'll take the 11.3 and hope for the top 20 after that. Of course the way they measure in the Park we may not know final totals until Friday night, after settling and compression takes its toll.
20 Largest Snowstorms All Time
Central Park in NYC
(through Dec 14, 2020)
Rank.Amount..Date
1……..27.5…..January 23, 2016
2……..26.9…..February 11-12, 2006
3……..25.8…..December 26-27, 1947
4……..21.0…..March 12-14, 1888
5……..20.9…..February 25-26, 2010
6……..20.2…..January 7-8, 1996
7……..20.0…..December 26-27, 2010
8……..19.8…..February 16-17, 2003
9……..19.0…..January 26-27, 2011
10…..18.1…..March 7-8, 1941
11…..18.1…..January 22-24, 1935
12…..18.0…..December 26, 1872
13…..17.7…..February 5-7, 1978
14…..17.6…..February 11-12, 1983
15…..17.5…..February 4-7, 1920
16…..17.4…..February 3-4, 1961
17…..16.0…..December 19-20, 1948
18…..16.0…..February 12-13, 1899
19…..15.3…..February 9-10, 1969
20…..15.2…..December 11-12, 1960
Also of note here for those that made it to the bottom of the list, if NYC does exceed 15.2 inches from this storm (again not expecting but the possibility is out there) the storm that made docstox a weather enthusiast, the December 1960 storm will drop out of the top 20.
To get on the list this storm would have to exceed 15.2 inches in Central Park. I'd love to see it happen but doubting it does. More realistic is the 11.3 inches I keep touting so the 30 year average gets to 30 inches for the Jan 1991 to Dec 2020 calculations to come out next month. It would be nice to get both but I'll take the 11.3 and hope for the top 20 after that. Of course the way they measure in the Park we may not know final totals until Friday night, after settling and compression takes its toll.
20 Largest Snowstorms All Time
Central Park in NYC
(through Dec 14, 2020)
Rank.Amount..Date
1……..27.5…..January 23, 2016
2……..26.9…..February 11-12, 2006
3……..25.8…..December 26-27, 1947
4……..21.0…..March 12-14, 1888
5……..20.9…..February 25-26, 2010
6……..20.2…..January 7-8, 1996
7……..20.0…..December 26-27, 2010
8……..19.8…..February 16-17, 2003
9……..19.0…..January 26-27, 2011
10…..18.1…..March 7-8, 1941
11…..18.1…..January 22-24, 1935
12…..18.0…..December 26, 1872
13…..17.7…..February 5-7, 1978
14…..17.6…..February 11-12, 1983
15…..17.5…..February 4-7, 1920
16…..17.4…..February 3-4, 1961
17…..16.0…..December 19-20, 1948
18…..16.0…..February 12-13, 1899
19…..15.3…..February 9-10, 1969
20…..15.2…..December 11-12, 1960
Also of note here for those that made it to the bottom of the list, if NYC does exceed 15.2 inches from this storm (again not expecting but the possibility is out there) the storm that made docstox a weather enthusiast, the December 1960 storm will drop out of the top 20.
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by CPcantmeasuresnow Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:33 am
6.5 inches in Central park as of midnight.
Will see how much falls on the 17th but this leaves the city now 4.8 inches short of getting Decembers 30 year average to 5.2 which will then bring the 30 year average to 30 inches.
The average for December now stands at 5.0 inches, 4.99 to be exact, which if no more snow fell this month would put the 30 year average at 29.8
This will make it an interesting last 2 weeks.
Will see how much falls on the 17th but this leaves the city now 4.8 inches short of getting Decembers 30 year average to 5.2 which will then bring the 30 year average to 30 inches.
The average for December now stands at 5.0 inches, 4.99 to be exact, which if no more snow fell this month would put the 30 year average at 29.8
This will make it an interesting last 2 weeks.
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by billg315 Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:06 am
Looking at the radar looks like there was some snow overnight and even this morning in CPK so the final total *should* logically be slightly higher than that 6.5” but given their history they may just go to bed and forget to measure again.
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by CPcantmeasuresnow Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:01 am
It does appear that Central Park did officially record 10 inches of snow from this storm. A couple of things of note about that.
This becomes the 66th storm since 1870 of 10 inches or more in NYC and the 13th in December. The breakdown by months as seen below.
No. of 10 + inch snows by Month NYC
1…....November
13…..December
16…..January
25…..February
9…....March
2…....April
66…...Total
NYC now needs an additional 1.3 inches of snow this December to get the December 30 year average from 5.1 to 5.2 which will then get to a 30.0 inch average when the next averages are calculated next month for 1991-2020. What seemed a lock two and a half years ago is now going down to the final two weeks.
30 Year 30 year Snowfall averages per month & seasonal- New York City
Period...........Oct... Nov... Dec...Jan... Feb... Mar... Apr...Seasonal
1871-1900... 0.0... 2.0.... 6.3....9.1... 9.0... 6.0... 1.0... 33.3
1881-1910... 0.0... 1.8.... 5.7... 8.9... 9.1... 6.2... 0.7... 32.4
1891-1920... 0.0... 1.3.... 5.7... 7.5... 9.8... 6.7... 1.2... 32.2
1901-1930... 0.0... 0.2.....6.2... 7.5... 9.6... 5.1... 1.3... 29.8
1911-1940... 0.0... 0.9.... 5.2... 6.5... 9.3... 4.7... 1.3... 28.1
1921-1950... 0.0....1.0.... 6.0 ...7.4... 9.0... 3.5... 0.9... 27.8
1931-1960... 0.0... 1.1.... 6.5... 6.3... 6.8... 5.4... 0.9... 27.0
1941-1970... 0.0... 0.4.... 7.1... 6.8... 7.5... 5.8... 0.7... 28.2
1951-1980... 0.0... 0.4.... 4.6... 6.7... 7.8... 5.0... 0.3... 24.8
1961-1990... 0.0... 0.4.... 3.3... 7.6... 8.4... 3.3... 0.4... 23.5
1971-2000... 0.0... 0.4.... 2.6... 7.3... 8.0... 3.6... 0.5... 22.3
1981-2010... 0.0... 0.3.... 4.8... 7.1... 9.2... 3.9... 0.6... 25.9
1991-2020... 0.1... 0.5... 5.1... 8.7... 10.1... 5.0... 0.4.. 29.9
This becomes the 66th storm since 1870 of 10 inches or more in NYC and the 13th in December. The breakdown by months as seen below.
No. of 10 + inch snows by Month NYC
1…....November
13…..December
16…..January
25…..February
9…....March
2…....April
66…...Total
NYC now needs an additional 1.3 inches of snow this December to get the December 30 year average from 5.1 to 5.2 which will then get to a 30.0 inch average when the next averages are calculated next month for 1991-2020. What seemed a lock two and a half years ago is now going down to the final two weeks.
30 Year 30 year Snowfall averages per month & seasonal- New York City
Period...........Oct... Nov... Dec...Jan... Feb... Mar... Apr...Seasonal
1871-1900... 0.0... 2.0.... 6.3....9.1... 9.0... 6.0... 1.0... 33.3
1881-1910... 0.0... 1.8.... 5.7... 8.9... 9.1... 6.2... 0.7... 32.4
1891-1920... 0.0... 1.3.... 5.7... 7.5... 9.8... 6.7... 1.2... 32.2
1901-1930... 0.0... 0.2.....6.2... 7.5... 9.6... 5.1... 1.3... 29.8
1911-1940... 0.0... 0.9.... 5.2... 6.5... 9.3... 4.7... 1.3... 28.1
1921-1950... 0.0....1.0.... 6.0 ...7.4... 9.0... 3.5... 0.9... 27.8
1931-1960... 0.0... 1.1.... 6.5... 6.3... 6.8... 5.4... 0.9... 27.0
1941-1970... 0.0... 0.4.... 7.1... 6.8... 7.5... 5.8... 0.7... 28.2
1951-1980... 0.0... 0.4.... 4.6... 6.7... 7.8... 5.0... 0.3... 24.8
1961-1990... 0.0... 0.4.... 3.3... 7.6... 8.4... 3.3... 0.4... 23.5
1971-2000... 0.0... 0.4.... 2.6... 7.3... 8.0... 3.6... 0.5... 22.3
1981-2010... 0.0... 0.3.... 4.8... 7.1... 9.2... 3.9... 0.6... 25.9
1991-2020... 0.1... 0.5... 5.1... 8.7... 10.1... 5.0... 0.4.. 29.9
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by heehaw453 Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:05 am
I did some digging on the double digit snowfall for CPK in December and found some interesting facts.
1. There was a period of over 30 years where CPK didn't record double digit snowfall in December 1964-1994.
2. I found 28 season where CPK recorded double digit snowfall in December. 24/28 recorded > 30" ~ 86%
3. Those that didn't have > 30" were very close with the exception of 1912.
4. There have been no such occurrences where double digit snowfall occurred in December and seasonal snowfall < 30" since 1926.
5. What does this mean? Who knows, but I like starting off well...
Year | Was > 30" seasonal snowfall
1872-73 Yes
1874-75 Yes
1876-77 Yes
1880-81 Yes
1883-84 Yes
1884-85 Yes
1886-86 Yes
1890-91 No
1896-97 Yes
1902-03 No
1904-05 Yes
1912-13 No
1916-17 Yes
1917-18 Yes
1926-27 No
1933-34 Yes
1945-46 Yes
1947-48 Yes
1948-49 Yes
1959-60 Yes
1960-61 Yes
1963-64 Yes
1995-96 Yes
2000-01 Yes
2002-03 Yes
2003-04 Yes
2009-10 Yes
2010-11 Yes
1. There was a period of over 30 years where CPK didn't record double digit snowfall in December 1964-1994.
2. I found 28 season where CPK recorded double digit snowfall in December. 24/28 recorded > 30" ~ 86%
3. Those that didn't have > 30" were very close with the exception of 1912.
4. There have been no such occurrences where double digit snowfall occurred in December and seasonal snowfall < 30" since 1926.
5. What does this mean? Who knows, but I like starting off well...
Year | Was > 30" seasonal snowfall
1872-73 Yes
1874-75 Yes
1876-77 Yes
1880-81 Yes
1883-84 Yes
1884-85 Yes
1886-86 Yes
1890-91 No
1896-97 Yes
1902-03 No
1904-05 Yes
1912-13 No
1916-17 Yes
1917-18 Yes
1926-27 No
1933-34 Yes
1945-46 Yes
1947-48 Yes
1948-49 Yes
1959-60 Yes
1960-61 Yes
1963-64 Yes
1995-96 Yes
2000-01 Yes
2002-03 Yes
2003-04 Yes
2009-10 Yes
2010-11 Yes
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by CPcantmeasuresnow Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:15 am
heehaw453 wrote:I did some digging on the double digit snowfall for CPK in December and found some interesting facts.
1. There was a period of over 30 years where CPK didn't record double digit snowfall in December 1964-1994.
2. I found 28 season where CPK recorded double digit snowfall in December. 24/28 recorded > 30" ~ 86%
3. Those that didn't have > 30" were very close with the exception of 1912.
4. There have been no such occurrences where double digit snowfall occurred in December and seasonal snowfall < 30" since 1926.
5. What does this mean? Who knows, but I like starting off well...
Year | Was > 30" seasonal snowfall
1872-73 Yes
1874-75 Yes
1876-77 Yes
1880-81 Yes
1883-84 Yes
1884-85 Yes
1886-86 Yes
1890-91 No
1896-97 Yes
1902-03 No
1904-05 Yes
1912-13 No
1916-17 Yes
1917-18 Yes
1926-27 No
1933-34 Yes
1945-46 Yes
1947-48 Yes
1948-49 Yes
1959-60 Yes
1960-61 Yes
1963-64 Yes
1995-96 Yes
2000-01 Yes
2002-03 Yes
2003-04 Yes
2009-10 Yes
2010-11 Yes
Nice stats Heehaw. I posted this in the other thread this morning. Slightly different than yours.
There have been 29 Decembers with 10 or more inches of snow in NYC
24 of those winters have then had 30 or more inches for the season or 82.8%
17 of the 29 have had 40 or more inches of snow for the season or 58.6%
9 of the 29 have had 50 or more inches of snow or the season or 31.0%
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by heehaw453 Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:20 am
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:heehaw453 wrote:I did some digging on the double digit snowfall for CPK in December and found some interesting facts.
1. There was a period of over 30 years where CPK didn't record double digit snowfall in December 1964-1994.
2. I found 28 season where CPK recorded double digit snowfall in December. 24/28 recorded > 30" ~ 86%
3. Those that didn't have > 30" were very close with the exception of 1912.
4. There have been no such occurrences where double digit snowfall occurred in December and seasonal snowfall < 30" since 1926.
5. What does this mean? Who knows, but I like starting off well...
Year | Was > 30" seasonal snowfall
1872-73 Yes
1874-75 Yes
1876-77 Yes
1880-81 Yes
1883-84 Yes
1884-85 Yes
1886-86 Yes
1890-91 No
1896-97 Yes
1902-03 No
1904-05 Yes
1912-13 No
1916-17 Yes
1917-18 Yes
1926-27 No
1933-34 Yes
1945-46 Yes
1947-48 Yes
1948-49 Yes
1959-60 Yes
1960-61 Yes
1963-64 Yes
1995-96 Yes
2000-01 Yes
2002-03 Yes
2003-04 Yes
2009-10 Yes
2010-11 Yes
Nice stats Heehaw. I posted this in the other thread this morning. Slightly different than yours.
There have been 29 Decembers with 10 or more inches of snow in NYC
24 of those winters have then had 30 or more inches for the season or 82.8%
17 of the 29 have had 40 or more inches of snow for the season or 58.6%
9 of the 29 have had 50 or more inches of snow or the season or 31.0%
Thank you sir.
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by docstox12 Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:36 pm
CP, just noticed that Central Park was listed having 10.5 inches.
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by CPcantmeasuresnow Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:51 pm
docstox12 wrote:CP, just noticed that Central Park was listed having 10.5 inches.
Doc I just came in from snow blowing and checked.
Yes the 1:00pm update in Central Park was 10.5 inches. The city now needs 0.8 inches by the end of the month to reach the 30 inch average when the new 30 year averages are calculated next month.
Amazing when it looked like that was a lock 2 and half years ago and it's coming right down to the wire.
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by heehaw453 Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:10 pm
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:docstox12 wrote:CP, just noticed that Central Park was listed having 10.5 inches.
Doc I just came in from snow blowing and checked.
Yes the 1:00pm update in Central Park was 10.5 inches. The city now needs 0.8 inches by the end of the month to reach the 30 inch average when the new 30 year averages are calculated next month.
Amazing when it looked like that was a lock 2 and half years ago and it's coming right down to the wire.
Based on the long range forecasting for this year coupled with the fact that double digit December snowfall only occurs about 20% of the time in CPK I thought this had not a snowball chance in hell. Amazing.
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by CPcantmeasuresnow Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:13 pm
I posted this morning in another thread but was meant for the weather stats thread:
Including this December that just recorded 10.5 inches of snow in NYC, with hopefully more to come this month, this becomes the 29th December to record 10 or more inches of snow in Central Park.
There have been 28 full seasons in NYC with 10 or more inches of snow in December and here's how they fared.
24 of those winters have then had 30 or more inches for the season or 85.7%
17 of the 28 have had 40 or more inches of snow for the season or 60.7%
9 of the 28 have had 50 or more inches of snow for the season or 32.1%
4 of the 28 have had 60 or more inches of snow for the season or 14.2%
1 of the 28 have had 70 or more inches of snow for the season or 3.6%
Including this December that just recorded 10.5 inches of snow in NYC, with hopefully more to come this month, this becomes the 29th December to record 10 or more inches of snow in Central Park.
There have been 28 full seasons in NYC with 10 or more inches of snow in December and here's how they fared.
24 of those winters have then had 30 or more inches for the season or 85.7%
17 of the 28 have had 40 or more inches of snow for the season or 60.7%
9 of the 28 have had 50 or more inches of snow for the season or 32.1%
4 of the 28 have had 60 or more inches of snow for the season or 14.2%
1 of the 28 have had 70 or more inches of snow for the season or 3.6%
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by CPcantmeasuresnow Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:43 am
The most recent storm at 10.5 inches didn't even make the Top 50 list in NYC, it comes in at 54th, but it did become the 16th storm of 10 inches or more since 2000 and the 66th since 1869 when records have officially been kept.
10 inch Snowstorms All Time
Central Park in NYC
(through December 17, 2020)
Rank.Amount..Date
1……..27.5…..January 23, 2016
2……..26.9…..February 11-12, 2006
3……..25.8…..December 26-27, 1947
4……..21.0…..March 12-14, 1888
5……..20.9…..February 25-26, 2010
6……..20.2…..January 7-8, 1996
7……..20.0…..December 26-27, 2010
8……..19.8…..February 16-17, 2003
9……..19.0…..January 26-27, 2011
10…..18.1…..March 7-8, 1941
11…..18.1…..January 22-24, 1935
12…..18.0…..December 26, 1872
13…..17.7…..February 5-7, 1978
14…..17.6…..February 11-12, 1983
15…..17.5…..February 4-7, 1920
16…..17.4…..February 3-4, 1961
17…..16.0…..December 19-20, 1948
18…..16.0…..February 12-13, 1899
19…..15.3…..February 9-10, 1969
20…..15.2…..December 11-12, 1960
21…..14.5…..March 3-4, 1960
22…..14.5…..March 1-2, 1914
23…..14.0…..December 5-7, 2003
24…..13.8…..January 22-23, 2005
25…..13.7…..December 21-22, 1959
26…..13.6…..January 19-20, 1978
27…..13.0…..January 15-16, 1879
28…..13.0…..January 1-2, 1877
29…..12.8…..February 11, 1994
30…..12.7…..February 19, 1979
31…..12.7…..December 15, 1916
32…..12.5…..February 13-14 2014
33…..12.5…..February 7, 1967
34…..12.5…..January 12-13, 1964
35…..12.5…..February 20, 1921
36…..12.0…..December 30, 2000
37…..12.0…..February 9-10, 1926
38…..12.0…..March 15-16, 1896
39…..11.8…..March 19-20, 1958
40…..11.6…..March 18-19, 1956
41…..11.5…..January 2, 1925
42…..11.5…..January 21-22, 2014
43…..11.4…..December 24, 1912
44…..11.4…..February 8-9, 2013
45…..11.2…..December 26, 1933
46…..11.0…..February 3-4, 1876
47…..11.0…..January 24-25, 1905
48…..11.0…..February 4-5, 1907
49…..10.9…..December 19-20, 2009
50…..10.8…..February 4, 1995
51…..10.7…..February 20-21, 1947
52…..10.7…..February 16-17, 1996
53…..10.6…..March 13-14, 1993
54....10.5....December 16-17 2020
55…..10.4…..February 3-4, 1926
56…..10.3…..January 28, 2004
57…..10.2…..April 3-4, 1915
58…..10.0…..April 13, 1875
59…..10.0…..March 2, 1896
60…..10.0…..January 27-28, 1897
61…..10.0…..November 26-27, 1898
62…..10.0…..February 17, 1902
63…..10.0…..January 23-24, 1908
64…..10.0…..January 14-15, 1910
65…..10.0…..February 11, 1933
66…..10.0…..February 10, 2010
10 inch Snowstorms All Time
Central Park in NYC
(through December 17, 2020)
Rank.Amount..Date
1……..27.5…..January 23, 2016
2……..26.9…..February 11-12, 2006
3……..25.8…..December 26-27, 1947
4……..21.0…..March 12-14, 1888
5……..20.9…..February 25-26, 2010
6……..20.2…..January 7-8, 1996
7……..20.0…..December 26-27, 2010
8……..19.8…..February 16-17, 2003
9……..19.0…..January 26-27, 2011
10…..18.1…..March 7-8, 1941
11…..18.1…..January 22-24, 1935
12…..18.0…..December 26, 1872
13…..17.7…..February 5-7, 1978
14…..17.6…..February 11-12, 1983
15…..17.5…..February 4-7, 1920
16…..17.4…..February 3-4, 1961
17…..16.0…..December 19-20, 1948
18…..16.0…..February 12-13, 1899
19…..15.3…..February 9-10, 1969
20…..15.2…..December 11-12, 1960
21…..14.5…..March 3-4, 1960
22…..14.5…..March 1-2, 1914
23…..14.0…..December 5-7, 2003
24…..13.8…..January 22-23, 2005
25…..13.7…..December 21-22, 1959
26…..13.6…..January 19-20, 1978
27…..13.0…..January 15-16, 1879
28…..13.0…..January 1-2, 1877
29…..12.8…..February 11, 1994
30…..12.7…..February 19, 1979
31…..12.7…..December 15, 1916
32…..12.5…..February 13-14 2014
33…..12.5…..February 7, 1967
34…..12.5…..January 12-13, 1964
35…..12.5…..February 20, 1921
36…..12.0…..December 30, 2000
37…..12.0…..February 9-10, 1926
38…..12.0…..March 15-16, 1896
39…..11.8…..March 19-20, 1958
40…..11.6…..March 18-19, 1956
41…..11.5…..January 2, 1925
42…..11.5…..January 21-22, 2014
43…..11.4…..December 24, 1912
44…..11.4…..February 8-9, 2013
45…..11.2…..December 26, 1933
46…..11.0…..February 3-4, 1876
47…..11.0…..January 24-25, 1905
48…..11.0…..February 4-5, 1907
49…..10.9…..December 19-20, 2009
50…..10.8…..February 4, 1995
51…..10.7…..February 20-21, 1947
52…..10.7…..February 16-17, 1996
53…..10.6…..March 13-14, 1993
54....10.5....December 16-17 2020
55…..10.4…..February 3-4, 1926
56…..10.3…..January 28, 2004
57…..10.2…..April 3-4, 1915
58…..10.0…..April 13, 1875
59…..10.0…..March 2, 1896
60…..10.0…..January 27-28, 1897
61…..10.0…..November 26-27, 1898
62…..10.0…..February 17, 1902
63…..10.0…..January 23-24, 1908
64…..10.0…..January 14-15, 1910
65…..10.0…..February 11, 1933
66…..10.0…..February 10, 2010
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by docstox12 Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:52 am
Excellent CP!
The "snowy" 2000's. Just skimming, I only see one from the 1980's, The February 11-12th storm.We have been blessed to have seen so many since 2000!
The "snowy" 2000's. Just skimming, I only see one from the 1980's, The February 11-12th storm.We have been blessed to have seen so many since 2000!
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by CPcantmeasuresnow Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:25 am
docstox12 wrote:Excellent CP!
The "snowy" 2000's. Just skimming, I only see one from the 1980's, The February 11-12th storm.We have been blessed to have seen so many since 2000!
True Doc, plus that being a NYC list we've had quite a few more here in the HV since the 2000's than 16.
I'll have to go through my records at some point and check. There's just been so many on the last 20 years you begin to lose track. I remember checking a couple of years back and it was 25 since 2000, we've added a few including yesterdays since then.
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by CPcantmeasuresnow Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:13 am
amugs wrote:CP Great avatar - Petty was the best !
One of my top 5 Rock Gods of all time.
He's been my avatar since the day after he died. The picture is from when he headlined the 2008 Superbowl.
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by docstox12 Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:31 pm
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:docstox12 wrote:Excellent CP!
The "snowy" 2000's. Just skimming, I only see one from the 1980's, The February 11-12th storm.We have been blessed to have seen so many since 2000!
True Doc, plus that being a NYC list we've had quite a few more here in the HV since the 2000's than 16.
I'll have to go through my records at some point and check. There's just been so many on the last 20 years you begin to lose track. I remember checking a couple of years back and it was 25 since 2000, we've added a few including yesterdays since then.
Absolutely, CP, the LHV is the best!
We are very fortunate as snow lovers to be enjoying these snowy 20 years.The 70's and 1980's pale by comparison.
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by sroc4 Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:43 pm
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:I posted this morning in another thread but was meant for the weather stats thread:
Including this December that just recorded 10.5 inches of snow in NYC, with hopefully more to come this month, this becomes the 29th December to record 10 or more inches of snow in Central Park.
There have been 28 full seasons in NYC with 10 or more inches of snow in December and here's how they fared.
24 of those winters have then had 30 or more inches for the season or 85.7%
17 of the 28 have had 40 or more inches of snow for the season or 60.7%
9 of the 28 have had 50 or more inches of snow for the season or 32.1%
4 of the 28 have had 60 or more inches of snow for the season or 14.2%
1 of the 28 have had 70 or more inches of snow for the season or 3.6%
Hey Cp to piggy back these great stats Joe D'Aleo posted this on the Weather Bell site today. Summed up: the precedent is for the NE to have anywhere from 2-5 total NESIS rated storms this year based off these stats.
"I wondered whether historically major December storm was an omen for the winter. This was certainly a major event.
Last Thursday's storm had an amazing band of very heavy snow in the arctic air.
Observers in cities and towns in PA, NY and New England:
19 locations reported over 40 inches
126 locations reported over 30 inches
219 reported over 24 inches
456 reported over 12 inches.
Does a December major event historically speaking provide a preview of what is to follow?
I looked at December years with a NESIS event and totaled the number for the winter. The years starting in 1957 ended with 2 to 5 major events. 3 years had 5 , 3 years had 4, 4 years had 4, 2 years had 2. The average was 3.6."
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Re: Weather Statistics Thread
by CPcantmeasuresnow Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:29 am
It looks like this may have what it takes to crack the top 20 list in NYC of top storms of all time. They need 15.3 inches to do it. A lot of the guidance seems to give them a decent shot.
20 Largest Snowstorms All Time
Central Park in NYC
(through Jan 31, 2021)
Rank.Amount..Date
1……..27.5…..January 23, 2016
2……..26.9…..February 11-12, 2006
3……..25.8…..December 26-27, 1947
4……..21.0…..March 12-14, 1888
5……..20.9…..February 25-26, 2010
6……..20.2…..January 7-8, 1996
7……..20.0…..December 26-27, 2010
8……..19.8…..February 16-17, 2003
9……..19.0…..January 26-27, 2011
10…..18.1…..March 7-8, 1941
11…..18.1…..January 22-24, 1935
12…..18.0…..December 26, 1872
13…..17.7…..February 5-7, 1978
14…..17.6…..February 11-12, 1983
15…..17.5…..February 4-7, 1920
16…..17.4…..February 3-4, 1961
17…..16.0…..December 19-20, 1948
18…..16.0…..February 12-13, 1899
19…..15.3…..February 9-10, 1969
20…..15.2…..December 11-12, 1960
20 Largest Snowstorms All Time
Central Park in NYC
(through Jan 31, 2021)
Rank.Amount..Date
1……..27.5…..January 23, 2016
2……..26.9…..February 11-12, 2006
3……..25.8…..December 26-27, 1947
4……..21.0…..March 12-14, 1888
5……..20.9…..February 25-26, 2010
6……..20.2…..January 7-8, 1996
7……..20.0…..December 26-27, 2010
8……..19.8…..February 16-17, 2003
9……..19.0…..January 26-27, 2011
10…..18.1…..March 7-8, 1941
11…..18.1…..January 22-24, 1935
12…..18.0…..December 26, 1872
13…..17.7…..February 5-7, 1978
14…..17.6…..February 11-12, 1983
15…..17.5…..February 4-7, 1920
16…..17.4…..February 3-4, 1961
17…..16.0…..December 19-20, 1948
18…..16.0…..February 12-13, 1899
19…..15.3…..February 9-10, 1969
20…..15.2…..December 11-12, 1960
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