Re: Wx Banter Thread 2.0

[essexcountypete]

When we hit solar minimum in the next 7 years maybe winters will be just that.
A massive volcanic explosion be happening during this time frame and we'll have months of BN averages and snow galore.
What science will find is that the massive nino has had the biggest hangover in the history of man. I actually posted about this back inAug/Sept froma guy in Eastern Mass I follow. How did we get there - super nino? Who knows but it has happened before and shall again.  We are a fine scratch on teh surface of our record keeping in comparison to weather's history of man walking planet earth that we hold as the end all of be all for empirical data.

Here is a snip it for all to enjoy

That is an interesting graphic. A google search of the chart and the guys who created it finds that there is some concern and debate about the graph, and the gentlemen who created it.

[amugs]

When we hit solar minimum in the next 7 years maybe winters will be just that.
A massive volcanic explosion be happening during this time frame and we'll have months of BN averages and snow galore.
What science will find is that the massive nino has had the biggest hangover in the history of man. I actually posted about this back inAug/Sept froma guy in Eastern Mass I follow. How did we get there - super nino? Who knows but it has happened before and shall again.  We are a fine scratch on teh surface of our record keeping in comparison to weather's history of man walking planet earth that we hold as the end all of be all for empirical data.

Here is a snip it for all to enjoy

That is an interesting graphic. A google search of the chart and the guys who created it finds that there is some concern and debate about the graph, and the gentlemen who created it.

Pete yes I know but the graph is very cool showing the ebb and flow of our sensible weather.

From teh various readings and research from IIPPC scientist who have left this organization and one in particular who I have 2 of her books - we are in an interglacial period - funny cause the last time the earth about 2*C warmer than present from here findings and research - this place is so old we can't wrap our heads around it - again tens of millions of years ago. There will be periods from her knowledge over teh past 30 years researching climate that will be normal, below normal and above normal - sounds like I am trying to sell yuo a bridge. She posed teh question - as to what is our normal? 1800's was a hell of lot colder than now but 500 year previous it was warmer than now but again the instrumentation and readings were dinosauric to today's means. So what is normal? How do we know that the instrumentation placement for temperatures is not being skewed? There have been thousands of locations across America that were co-op stations that are no longer being manned or used. These are usually in rural areas.

The MJO/STRAT/AAM combo is going to allow for a great West Based Greenland block - I have been harping on 3 snow events for March - not delusional CP, I look at LR indicators and listen to really knowledgeable LR forecasters. Heck it may even snow in the HV,LHV the 1st week of April from what is being discussed.

[Guest]

I'm posting this here so as not to disturb the Long Range Thread and I apologize to everybody whose mellow I'm about to harsh, but if one's idea of discussion is nothing more than taking the models as gospel and closing your mind off to the possibility of anything else taking place then I fail to see why one would come here when TWC, TT or Accuweather can give you the information you want.

If the mods want to delete this or ban me or whatever, I understand and no hard feelings on my part. But for the life of me, I can't figure out why anybody would come here to do nothing more than ignore everybody's input because maps that change every 6 hours said so.

End rant.

[devsman]

I think the frustration of the winter is setting in for some. I have learned that even in a top 5 warm winter like this one, I can still see great storms. Last blizzard came from no where on the surface models but was there based on what all the pros on this site we're saying. Some people on this board just want to complain or troll but it's best to ignore. Losing the amazing analysis given on this site would be sad given the pathetic attempt of a few to troll or whine. So my rant is over and let's hope for the next 2 weeks.

[mikeypizano]

I think the frustration of the winter is setting in for some. I have learned that even in a top 5 warm winter like this one, I can still see great storms. Last blizzard came from no where on the surface models but was there based on what all the pros on this site we're saying. Some people on this board just want to complain or troll but it's best to ignore. Losing the amazing analysis given on this site would be sad given the pathetic attempt of a few to troll or whine. So my rant is over and let's hope for the next 2 weeks.

I just want to get back to work!

[track17]

It is actually not trolling. God forbid you give an opinion that is different then some people you get taken to town. It is not complaining. It is not trolling it is the truth. The temp profiles have not looked good. But you guys just love to attack me. That is actually trolling just because you disagree. So you want to call me a troll sroc, devsman, aresian that is sad. You just want no one on here who disagrees with you.

[sroc4]

It is actually not trolling. God forbid you give an opinion that is different then some people you get taken to town. It is not complaining. It is not trolling it is the truth. The temp profiles have not looked good. But you guys just love to attack me. That is actually trolling just because you disagree. So you want to call me a troll sroc, devsman, aresian that is sad. You just want no one on here who disagrees with you.

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[Grselig]

I know that we've been torched in the winter based on numerous memories. 70's in Feb this year and probably January in the recent past. I don't ever recall near freezing weather in the summer.

I think we need a good volcano.

http://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/31/books/snow-fell-in-june.html

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

When we hit solar minimum in the next 7 years maybe winters will be just that.
A massive volcanic explosion be happening during this time frame and we'll have months of BN averages and snow galore.
What science will find is that the massive nino has had the biggest hangover in the history of man. I actually posted about this back inAug/Sept froma guy in Eastern Mass I follow. How did we get there - super nino? Who knows but it has happened before and shall again.  We are a fine scratch on teh surface of our record keeping in comparison to weather's history of man walking planet earth that we hold as the end all of be all for empirical data.

Here is a snip it for all to enjoy

That is an interesting graphic. A google search of the chart and the guys who created it finds that there is some concern and debate about the graph, and the gentlemen who created it.

Pete yes I know but the graph is very cool showing the ebb and flow of our sensible weather.

From teh various readings and research from IIPPC scientist who have left this organization and one in particular who I have 2 of her books - we are in an interglacial period - funny cause the last time the earth about 2*C warmer than present from here findings and research - this place is so old we can't wrap our heads around it - again tens of millions of years ago. There will be periods from her knowledge over teh past 30 years researching climate that will be normal, below normal and above normal - sounds like I am trying to sell yuo a bridge. She posed teh question - as to what is our normal? 1800's was a hell of lot colder than now but 500 year previous it was warmer than now but again the instrumentation and readings were dinosauric to today's means. So what is normal? How do we know that the instrumentation placement for temperatures is not being skewed? There have been thousands of locations across America that were co-op stations that are no longer being manned or used. These are usually in rural areas.

The MJO/STRAT/AAM combo is going to allow for a great West Based Greenland block - I have been harping on 3 snow events for March - not delusional CP, I look at LR indicators and listen to really knowledgeable LR forecasters. Heck it may even snow in the HV,LHV the 1st week of April from what is being discussed.

I've never called you delusional, maybe a bit overly optimistic at times IMO, but that's your personality which is certainly better than overly pessimistic.

I think we can all agree on this though, the last 2 winters have been torches like no others before back to back at least. With that said I'm almost at average snowfall for the season but I don't grade winter by the amount of snow I've had. If I don't have sustained cold, and snow cover for several weeks and I'm not asking for November to April snow cover like 93/94 and 95/96 those are exceptions. Just a normal winter where lakes actually freeze and snow that falls actually sticks around for awhile. I did have snow cover from January 24th to February 23rd but other than the first week or two of December that was winter. That doesn't cut it for me or even come close. One mans opinion.

[mikeypizano]

When we hit solar minimum in the next 7 years maybe winters will be just that.
A massive volcanic explosion be happening during this time frame and we'll have months of BN averages and snow galore.
What science will find is that the massive nino has had the biggest hangover in the history of man. I actually posted about this back inAug/Sept froma guy in Eastern Mass I follow. How did we get there - super nino? Who knows but it has happened before and shall again.  We are a fine scratch on teh surface of our record keeping in comparison to weather's history of man walking planet earth that we hold as the end all of be all for empirical data.

Here is a snip it for all to enjoy

That is an interesting graphic. A google search of the chart and the guys who created it finds that there is some concern and debate about the graph, and the gentlemen who created it.

Pete yes I know but the graph is very cool showing the ebb and flow of our sensible weather.

From teh various readings and research from IIPPC scientist who have left this organization and one in particular who I have 2 of her books - we are in an interglacial period - funny cause the last time the earth about 2*C warmer than present from here findings and research - this place is so old we can't wrap our heads around it - again tens of millions of years ago. There will be periods from her knowledge over teh past 30 years researching climate that will be normal, below normal and above normal - sounds like I am trying to sell yuo a bridge. She posed teh question - as to what is our normal? 1800's was a hell of lot colder than now but 500 year previous it was warmer than now but again the instrumentation and readings were dinosauric to today's means. So what is normal? How do we know that the instrumentation placement for temperatures is not being skewed? There have been thousands of locations across America that were co-op stations that are no longer being manned or used. These are usually in rural areas.

The MJO/STRAT/AAM combo is going to allow for a great West Based Greenland block - I have been harping on 3 snow events for March - not delusional CP, I look at LR indicators and listen to really knowledgeable LR forecasters. Heck it may even snow in the HV,LHV the 1st week of April from what is being discussed.

I've never called you delusional, maybe a bit overly optimistic at times IMO, but that's your personality which is certainly better than overly pessimistic.

I think we can all agree on this though, the last 2 winters have been torches like no others before back to back at least. With that said I'm almost at average snowfall for the season but I don't grade winter by the amount of snow I've had. If I don't have sustained cold, and snow cover for several weeks and I'm not asking for November to April snow cover like 93/94 and 95/96 those are exceptions. Just a normal winter where lakes actually freeze and snow that falls actually sticks around for awhile. I did have snow cover from January 24th to February 23rd but other than the first week or two of December that was winter. That doesn't cut it for me or even come close. One mans opinion.

I am the other way around, I like to see a good snowfall but I want everything melted by March. It can snow like crazy Dec to end of Feb, but then I want spring. Ideally I would love to be cutting grass by St. Patricks day (a month ahead of normal the past few years) because come June, July, August time, it will be DRY and nothing will be growing and I go from being 20 yards behind to a few yards a week...

[Grselig]

I'll take snow anytime. I grant you Mikey, its your livelihood! i've always admired Mugs. No sarcasm on my part, as he always shows the positive lining. My bet that extends to his entire life. A great way to live and from everything I have seen, a great genuine person.

[mikeypizano]

I'll take snow anytime. I grant you Mikey, its your livelihood!    i've always admired Mugs.  No sarcasm on my part, as he always shows the positive lining.  My bet that extends to his entire life.  A great way to live and from everything I have seen, a great genuine person.  

I just want one thing but it never comes anymore... The perfect year...

Mowing mid March, Above avgerage temperature until May, below average temperatures from June to September, then above average until after Thanksgiving. Above average precip the entire time until mid Oct or early November, dry until mid December, then snow until Feb 21, melted by March 1, grass green and growing again for mid March...

[Grselig]

I'm really hoping these potential cuts do not impact North American forecasting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/03/03/white-house-proposes-steep-budget-cut-to-leading-climate-science-agency/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_noaa-745pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.be3ad219089a

[Frank_Wx]

Forget Roidzilla. Euro is closer to Frankzilla. Man what a run.

[rb924119]

That's the look of the Legendary, "Storm that Must Not Be Named", Greatest of All Time (GOAT) Blizzard of 1888!!!!

[Radz]

Forget Roidzilla. Euro is closer to Frankzilla. Man what a run.

After last few years we deserve this - lets hope we can cash in on something in this time frame

[Guest]

If you guys get 3 feet and I struggle to get 6-9 inches, I'm not coming back here til next winter.

[RJB8525]

Forget Roidzilla. Euro is closer to Frankzilla. Man what a run.

i can imagine all the facebook pages running wild with this..

[Grselig]

The most ultimate intense wonderful (clown) map I can recall seeing. Stunning. Pray it comes true!!!!

[Radz]

And so it begins, Amy Freeze already made mention of snow next weekend...

[docstox12]

Well, it sure will be fun to see how this all plays out! Howling winds ,27 degrees sure gives this map a bit more credibility.Channel 7 is usually very conservative so if they are mentioning snow this early, then they see something too.

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

Forget Roidzilla. Euro is closer to Frankzilla. Man what a run.

Of course as is and 7-8 days out this is pretty funny.

So as per that map our entire 75 mile radius area from NYC pretty much sees 30-40 inches of snow with no one getting scrooed. It would be a fitting way to end one of the warmest winters in history. I'm not holding my breath for anything close to this though, but I'd love it.

[rb924119]

Forget Roidzilla. Euro is closer to Frankzilla. Man what a run.

Of course as is and 7-8 days out this is pretty funny.

So as per that map our entire 75 mile radius area from NYC pretty much sees 30-40 inches of snow with no one getting scrooed. It would be a fitting way to end one of the warmest winters in history. I'm not holding my breath for anything close to this though, but I'd love it.

If this happened, do you think there would be a mass exodus of residents from OTI to the Forum Mainland?? Or would there still be your die-hard residents, you think? Lmao

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

Forget Roidzilla. Euro is closer to Frankzilla. Man what a run.

Of course as is and 7-8 days out this is pretty funny.

So as per that map our entire 75 mile radius area from NYC pretty much sees 30-40 inches of snow with no one getting scrooed. It would be a fitting way to end one of the warmest winters in history. I'm not holding my breath for anything close to this though, but I'd love it.

If this happened, do you think there would be a mass exodus of residents from OTI to the Forum Mainland?? Or would there still be your die-hard residents, you think? Lmao

OTI would be like a ghost town.

[RJB8525]

if anything its nice eye candy

[docstox12]

Forget Roidzilla. Euro is closer to Frankzilla. Man what a run.

Of course as is and 7-8 days out this is pretty funny.

So as per that map our entire 75 mile radius area from NYC pretty much sees 30-40 inches of snow with no one getting scrooed. It would be a fitting way to end one of the warmest winters in history. I'm not holding my breath for anything close to this though, but I'd love it.

If this happened, do you think there would be a mass exodus of residents from OTI to the Forum Mainland?? Or would there still be your die-hard residents, you think? Lmao

OTI would be like a ghost town.

I would have to stay to man the Sanitarium as Aresian would be admitted due to his area only getting a few inches.If that proved out, the poor man would need shock therapy.

"Many are called....few are chosen!"

[rb924119]

Forget Roidzilla. Euro is closer to Frankzilla. Man what a run.

Of course as is and 7-8 days out this is pretty funny.

So as per that map our entire 75 mile radius area from NYC pretty much sees 30-40 inches of snow with no one getting scrooed. It would be a fitting way to end one of the warmest winters in history. I'm not holding my breath for anything close to this though, but I'd love it.

If this happened, do you think there would be a mass exodus of residents from OTI to the Forum Mainland?? Or would there still be your die-hard residents, you think? Lmao

OTI would be like a ghost town.

I would have to stay to man the Sanitarium as Aresian would be admitted due to his area only getting a few inches.If that proved out, the poor man would need shock therapy.

"Many are called....few are chosen!"

LMAO!!! He'd be the proverbial sacrifice for da teammmmmm dohhhhhhhh, putting that burden on his back doh!!! (insert Madden: Greg Jennings voiceover YouTube clip) ahaha

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