March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
Tommorow is going to be one long day at work. We will be getting plows ready
skinsfan1177- Senior Enthusiast
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Skins with the wind how come they have not issued a blizzard warning? Makes no sense to me?
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jmanley32 wrote:omfg I've never seen this b4!! 67 mph over me this will cause massive power issues. Frank ratios won't b as high with the winds why is that? Don't caRe 20 inches without ratios and winds near 70mph good god. Do u buy winds that high? First run showing that extreme.Frank_Wx wrote:Those who live west of the high winds will see higher ratios. Those under the high winds will see blizzard conditions like no other. 3 to 4 inch per hour rates at times. Euro winds...
It's just another reason I can do without the high winds Jman, they do cut down on ratios and therefore snow amounts. It has something to do with the texture of the snow as it falls through a windier atmosphere being altered. I'm sure someone else can give a more scientific explanation.
SO STOP WISHING FOR WIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
Wind scares the crap out of me personally. I stay farthest away from any window with wind even if it's 20mph
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
skinsfan1177 wrote:Tommorow is going to be one long day at work. We will be getting plows ready
Skins, your not complaining are you ? LOL !
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
I'm under a Blizzard Watch.
Posted 11 hours ago
Potential for a Major Winter Storm Monday night into Wednesday...
BLIZZARD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING... The National Weather Service in Upton has issued a Blizzard Watch, which is in effect from late Monday night through Tuesday evening. The Winter Storm Watch has been upgraded.
Locations: Metropolitan Northeastern New Jersey.
Hazard types: Heavy Snow and Blizzard Conditions.
Snow accumulations: 12 to 18 inches.
Timing: Late Monday night through Tuesday evening.
Impacts: Dangerous travel and potential for power outages.
Winds: Northeast 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 40 mph.
Temperatures: In the upper 20s.
Visibilities: One quarter mile or less at times.
Posted 11 hours ago
Potential for a Major Winter Storm Monday night into Wednesday...
BLIZZARD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING... The National Weather Service in Upton has issued a Blizzard Watch, which is in effect from late Monday night through Tuesday evening. The Winter Storm Watch has been upgraded.
Locations: Metropolitan Northeastern New Jersey.
Hazard types: Heavy Snow and Blizzard Conditions.
Snow accumulations: 12 to 18 inches.
Timing: Late Monday night through Tuesday evening.
Impacts: Dangerous travel and potential for power outages.
Winds: Northeast 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 40 mph.
Temperatures: In the upper 20s.
Visibilities: One quarter mile or less at times.
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
The NWS will make the update at the evening forecast change , thats usually between 3:30 pm to 4:30 PM. I am sure at that time you will see the Blizzard warnings go up!
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
poo to u lol. Hey I said nothing about 60 to 80 mph that's od but I guess possible.CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:jmanley32 wrote:omfg I've never seen this b4!! 67 mph over me this will cause massive power issues. Frank ratios won't b as high with the winds why is that? Don't caRe 20 inches without ratios and winds near 70mph good god. Do u buy winds that high? First run showing that extreme.Frank_Wx wrote:Those who live west of the high winds will see higher ratios. Those under the high winds will see blizzard conditions like no other. 3 to 4 inch per hour rates at times. Euro winds...
It's just another reason I can do without the high winds Jman, they do cut down on ratios and therefore snow amounts. It has something to do with the texture of the snow as it falls through a windier atmosphere being altered. I'm sure someone else can give a more scientific explanation.
SO STOP WISHING FOR WIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
The coast is gonna get absolutely battered if those wind gusts are accurate. Heavy snow is one thing but those gusts scare the s**t out of me....CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:jmanley32 wrote:omfg I've never seen this b4!! 67 mph over me this will cause massive power issues. Frank ratios won't b as high with the winds why is that? Don't caRe 20 inches without ratios and winds near 70mph good god. Do u buy winds that high? First run showing that extreme.Frank_Wx wrote:Those who live west of the high winds will see higher ratios. Those under the high winds will see blizzard conditions like no other. 3 to 4 inch per hour rates at times. Euro winds...
It's just another reason I can do without the high winds Jman, they do cut down on ratios and therefore snow amounts. It has something to do with the texture of the snow as it falls through a windier atmosphere being altered. I'm sure someone else can give a more scientific explanation.
SO STOP WISHING FOR WIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
an update from Mt.Holly winter storm warning posted.
NJZ001-007>010-012-015-PAZ054-055-060>062-101>106-130715-
/O.UPG.KPHI.WS.A.0004.170314T0000Z-170315T0000Z/
/O.NEW.KPHI.WS.W.0003.170314T0000Z-170314T2200Z/
Sussex-Warren-Morris-Hunterdon-Somerset-Middlesex-Mercer-Carbon-
Monroe-Berks-Lehigh-Northampton-Western Chester-Eastern Chester-
Western Montgomery-Eastern Montgomery-Upper Bucks-Lower Bucks-
Including the cities of Newton, Washington, Morristown,
Flemington, Somerville, New Brunswick, Trenton, Jim Thorpe,
Stroudsburg, Reading, Allentown, Bethlehem, Easton, Honey Brook,
Oxford, West Chester, Kennett Square, Collegeville, Pottstown,
Norristown, Lansdale, Chalfont, Perkasie, Morrisville,
and Doylestown
308 PM EDT Sun Mar 12 2017
...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 8 PM MONDAY TO 6 PM EDT
TUESDAY...
The National Weather Service in Mount Holly has issued a Winter
Storm Warning for heavy snow, which is in effect from 8 PM Monday
to 6 PM EDT Tuesday. The Winter Storm Watch is no longer in
effect.
* LOCATIONS...Eastern Pennsylvania and much of northern New Jersey.
* HAZARD TYPES...Heavy snow and strong winds.
* ACCUMULATIONS...Snow accumulation of 8 to 18 inches.
* TIMING...Snow begins Monday evening from southwest to northeast
across the warning area, becoming heavy at times with snowfall
rates of one to two inches per hour late Monday night and
Tuesday morning. Snow will diminish by Tuesday evening.
* IMPACTS...The heavy snow will make travel difficult or
impossible late Monday night and Tuesday.
* WINDS...Northeast 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph.
* VISIBILITIES...One quarter mile or less at times, especially
Tuesday morning.
* TEMPERATURES...Generally in the 20s.
NJZ001-007>010-012-015-PAZ054-055-060>062-101>106-130715-
/O.UPG.KPHI.WS.A.0004.170314T0000Z-170315T0000Z/
/O.NEW.KPHI.WS.W.0003.170314T0000Z-170314T2200Z/
Sussex-Warren-Morris-Hunterdon-Somerset-Middlesex-Mercer-Carbon-
Monroe-Berks-Lehigh-Northampton-Western Chester-Eastern Chester-
Western Montgomery-Eastern Montgomery-Upper Bucks-Lower Bucks-
Including the cities of Newton, Washington, Morristown,
Flemington, Somerville, New Brunswick, Trenton, Jim Thorpe,
Stroudsburg, Reading, Allentown, Bethlehem, Easton, Honey Brook,
Oxford, West Chester, Kennett Square, Collegeville, Pottstown,
Norristown, Lansdale, Chalfont, Perkasie, Morrisville,
and Doylestown
308 PM EDT Sun Mar 12 2017
...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 8 PM MONDAY TO 6 PM EDT
TUESDAY...
The National Weather Service in Mount Holly has issued a Winter
Storm Warning for heavy snow, which is in effect from 8 PM Monday
to 6 PM EDT Tuesday. The Winter Storm Watch is no longer in
effect.
* LOCATIONS...Eastern Pennsylvania and much of northern New Jersey.
* HAZARD TYPES...Heavy snow and strong winds.
* ACCUMULATIONS...Snow accumulation of 8 to 18 inches.
* TIMING...Snow begins Monday evening from southwest to northeast
across the warning area, becoming heavy at times with snowfall
rates of one to two inches per hour late Monday night and
Tuesday morning. Snow will diminish by Tuesday evening.
* IMPACTS...The heavy snow will make travel difficult or
impossible late Monday night and Tuesday.
* WINDS...Northeast 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph.
* VISIBILITIES...One quarter mile or less at times, especially
Tuesday morning.
* TEMPERATURES...Generally in the 20s.
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
I'm still reeling from see those maps for euro....
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
Frank will u also make a wind map. I think with the euro output it would b helpful to see what u think. I was spot on with the big windstorm and euro winds aren't that off this close in.
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
AT A HOCKEY MEETING FOR LAST TWO HOURS AND HOLY FN SHT SREFSSSSSS!!
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
jmanley32 wrote:Frank will u also make a wind map. I think with the euro output it would b helpful to see what u think. I was spot on with the big windstorm and euro winds aren't that off this close in.
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
Dang I take a power nap and quick shower and the EURO came on in and gave me 27 inches. Whew what a run.
Winds are certainly concerning even for me 30-40 MPH on top of heavy snow = lots of power issues up here with all these trees.
Winds are certainly concerning even for me 30-40 MPH on top of heavy snow = lots of power issues up here with all these trees.
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Great newsletter, Frank. Concise and to the point. Thanks
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
Frank_Wx wrote:jmanley32 wrote:Frank will u also make a wind map. I think with the euro output it would b helpful to see what u think. I was spot on with the big windstorm and euro winds aren't that off this close in.
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
What is wrong with the nws. Rather then go to a blizzard warning they just change the watch from 6-12 to just potential for greater then 6. What is wrong with them are they seeing something we are not ?
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
SNOW MAN wrote:skinsfan1177 wrote:Tommorow is going to be one long day at work. We will be getting plows ready
Skins, your not complaining are you ? LOL !
Not at all White Gold
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Unfortunately I don't have access to my email until tomorrow at work.
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
RPM NOT WAVERING HERE - THIS SI WHAT JEFF SMITH ON ABC IS SUING SINCE YESTERDAY
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
Hey guys just got back from being tortured for 24 hours..out in the bitter cold for the day yesterday in 20 degree weather and howling winds...why the heck my parents did not clean out the sheds by the lake in 70 degree weather is beyond me..wait until winter and 2 weeks till closing...AHHHHHHHH..I have 27 pages to read...can someone give me a quick synopsis of what is going to happen...radio on way home said 6-12...but I glanced at page 32 and it seems like it might be more... TIA
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
quote="track17"]What is wrong with the nws. Rather then go to a blizzard warning they just change the watch from 6-12 to just potential for greater then 6. What is wrong with them are they seeing something we are not ?
I'm under a Blizzard Watch already. It depends on where you live. I can't tell about you because you don't have a location stated.
I'm under a Blizzard Watch already. It depends on where you live. I can't tell about you because you don't have a location stated.
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Re: March 14th Godzilla Discussion Part 2
Looking at the water vapor satellite. Some strong energy plunging across Nebraska and Kansas right now. And the STJ's GOM spigot is turned on already looking to hook up with something.
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ABC 7 JUST UPDATED THERE WEB SITE WITH AN AREA WIDE 1-2 FEET ZONE
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heres Frank's email for those that arent signed up for newsletters:
NJ Srong Members -
I hope you're having an enjoyable Sunday. If you have spare time, I suggest getting a head start on preparing for Tuesdays winter storm.
This afternoons weather models showed outputs I have not seen many times in my lifetime. The short range models and foreign models show a powerful storm capable of paralyzing the area. The trend I'm seeing in the upper levels is for the sub tropical jet stream to be stronger, which means a stronger southern energy, and the mid level trough is sharper. The combination of the two develops a dangerous surface low pressure system, likely under 980mb, found off the coast of NJ. Snow rates could be anywhere from 3 to 5 inches an hour at times. Sustained winds of 30-40mph with gusts in excess of 70mph from NYC and points S&E. Snow accumulations ranging from 18 to as much as 36 inches (the 30+ snow amounts are confined to Eastern PA, NW NJ, and SW NY on latest guidance). NYC and points S&E could see some sleet or rain mix at times, but accumulations will remain well over a foot of snow. Power outages are a concern of mine, especially for NJ and NYC Metro.
Now, there's still a full day of model runs to digest and changes in track could lessen impacst. However, this is a very dynamic set up and I think the EURO, CMC, UKIE, AND short range models are showing these types of conditions for a reason. This evening I will have a synopsis and 1st call snow map on the forum. Please prepare yourselves and inform friends and family of what we could possibly be dealing with on Tuesday.
NJ Srong Members -
I hope you're having an enjoyable Sunday. If you have spare time, I suggest getting a head start on preparing for Tuesdays winter storm.
This afternoons weather models showed outputs I have not seen many times in my lifetime. The short range models and foreign models show a powerful storm capable of paralyzing the area. The trend I'm seeing in the upper levels is for the sub tropical jet stream to be stronger, which means a stronger southern energy, and the mid level trough is sharper. The combination of the two develops a dangerous surface low pressure system, likely under 980mb, found off the coast of NJ. Snow rates could be anywhere from 3 to 5 inches an hour at times. Sustained winds of 30-40mph with gusts in excess of 70mph from NYC and points S&E. Snow accumulations ranging from 18 to as much as 36 inches (the 30+ snow amounts are confined to Eastern PA, NW NJ, and SW NY on latest guidance). NYC and points S&E could see some sleet or rain mix at times, but accumulations will remain well over a foot of snow. Power outages are a concern of mine, especially for NJ and NYC Metro.
Now, there's still a full day of model runs to digest and changes in track could lessen impacst. However, this is a very dynamic set up and I think the EURO, CMC, UKIE, AND short range models are showing these types of conditions for a reason. This evening I will have a synopsis and 1st call snow map on the forum. Please prepare yourselves and inform friends and family of what we could possibly be dealing with on Tuesday.
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