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Post by billg315 Mon May 21, 2018 9:45 pm

Quietace wrote:Finally all moved back in at home for my 2 month hiatus from school.

Welcome back to NJ Ryan. Hopefully you get some good beach weather here before heading to Florida. And I guess you’ll be getting there just in time for the height of hurricane season.

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Post by Dunnzoo Tue May 22, 2018 7:31 am

Quietace wrote:Finally all moved back in at home for my 2 month hiatus from school.

Welcome back Ryan! Well done! Check your calendar for a meetup down the shore before you head south!

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Post by mikeypizano Tue May 22, 2018 9:17 am

Can someone turn off the rain for a week so I can get some work done?
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Post by Dunnzoo Tue May 22, 2018 8:29 pm

Skywarn recert tonight.... so bored! lol

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Post by Dunnzoo Tue May 22, 2018 10:20 pm

So after skywarn recert, the official word on measuring snow....

Measure after 4-6 hours, use a snow board or table or deck that is in an open area. DO NOT CLEAR SNOWBOARD during event, measure when event is done, they don't want you clearing the board to avoid compression, they WANT it to compress a little so totals aren't inflated...really????? So annoyed....

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Post by Radz Wed May 23, 2018 4:23 pm

Dunnzoo wrote:So after skywarn recert, the official word on measuring snow....

Measure after 4-6 hours, use a snow board or table or deck that is in an open area. DO NOT CLEAR SNOWBOARD during event, measure when event is done, they don't want you clearing the board to avoid compression, they WANT it to compress a little so totals aren't inflated...really????? So annoyed....

I'd find it real difficult to come up with a "rule of thumb" procedure for accurately measuring accumulated snowfall, too many variables at play. The guidelines they gave you are fine for an all snow event, but what about mixing, or changeover, or combinations? If you have 4" of snow accumulate in 3 hrs and change to heavy rain which washes 2" away in an hour, you are only to report 2" accumulation?? I must admit, i don't normally clear the snowboard on my back patio either, but i measure way more often than 4-6 hrs especially when there are rapidly changing conditions.  I also like my yard stick in the center of my front lawn, great way to gauge compression Smile
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Post by dkodgis Fri May 25, 2018 9:07 pm

I noticed this about the NOAA weather sat now not working:

https://nypost.com/2018/05/25/noaas-brand-new-weather-satellite-is-already-broken/
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Post by Frank_Wx Wed May 30, 2018 10:34 am

I want to congratulate Ryan - aka Quietace - for obtaining his Meteorology degree at Plymouth State University. I've known Ryan for a long time dating back to the Bill Evans forum. He is a bright mind who is very motivated and has tremendous passion for Meteorology. Current undergrads, or even people who may be looking for a change, should look up to guys like Ryan who put in time and hard work to get to where they want to be. I believe next steps for Ryan will be to take over this forum and bump me to the curve. Kidding (kinda), but he will next go to Florida State to get his Graduate degree.

What a start!

Good luck man

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Post by Quietace Wed May 30, 2018 10:56 am

Frank_Wx wrote:I want to congratulate Ryan - aka Quietace - for obtaining his Meteorology degree at Plymouth State University. I've known Ryan for a long time dating back to the Bill Evans forum. He is a bright mind who is very motivated and has tremendous passion for Meteorology. Current undergrads, or even people who may be looking for a change, should look up to guys like Ryan who put in time and hard work to get to where they want to be. I believe next steps for Ryan will be to take over this forum and bump me to the curve. Kidding (kinda), but he will next go to Florida State to get his Graduate degree.

What a start!

Good luck man
Thanks for the kind words Frank! I originate my passion way back when I started following you and the crew on Bill Evan's board(we have come a long way in 6-7 years).....Now I am on my way to get my PhD!
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Post by rb924119 Wed May 30, 2018 11:07 am

Quietace wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:I want to congratulate Ryan - aka Quietace - for obtaining his Meteorology degree at Plymouth State University. I've known Ryan for a long time dating back to the Bill Evans forum. He is a bright mind who is very motivated and has tremendous passion for Meteorology. Current undergrads, or even people who may be looking for a change, should look up to guys like Ryan who put in time and hard work to get to where they want to be. I believe next steps for Ryan will be to take over this forum and bump me to the curve. Kidding (kinda), but he will next go to Florida State to get his Graduate degree.

What a start!

Good luck man
Thanks for the kind words Frank! I originate my passion way back when I started following you and the crew on Bill Evan's board(we have come a long way in 6-7 years).....Now I am on my way to get my PhD!

Oh snap, look at that blue name tag!!!!! YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH BUDDYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!! IT'S OFFICIAL NOW BABY!!!!!! Congratulations, Ryan, and I wish you much success in your continued endeavors!!

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Post by billg315 Wed May 30, 2018 11:09 am

Congrats Ryan! The blue looks good on you.
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Post by sabamfa Wed May 30, 2018 11:36 am

Congratulations!

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Post by sroc4 Wed May 30, 2018 12:23 pm

Of course I echo everyone else Ryan. I wish you much success in your career and hope the PHD isnt too rough on you. It will be a lot of work but nothing you cant handle. Congrats again.

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Post by Quietace Wed May 30, 2018 1:09 pm

Thank you everyone!
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Post by amugs Wed May 30, 2018 2:20 pm

Ryan,

CONGRATS!! You did it kid and now you have a blue label and are in a class of a select few on weather boards & forums!! I wish you the best of luck in your quest for your doctorate and we all know you got this. Amazing how many of us here have known you since your young days on teh channel 7 wx board and have witnessed your quest to becoming a pro met. Looking forward to reading yuor professional thoughts on the best topic on this forum - weather!!

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Post by Grselig Wed May 30, 2018 4:58 pm

Ryan Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Grselig Wed May 30, 2018 5:00 pm

mikeypizano wrote:Can someone turn off the rain for a week so I can get some work done?

The rain stopped. Its nice and sunny. Had to mow extra nice today for my kids party this weekend. (which it now looks like rain GFS Model
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Post by sroc4 Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:34 pm

Wow. 6 yrs after Sandy

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/nj-realtor-sign-swept-away-during-hurricane-sandy-found-on-beach-in-france

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Post by frank 638 Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:12 pm

I this is crazy because Hawaii is having a volcano with that I heard they're also dealing with freezing rain that's crazy what's next

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Post by docstox12 Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:51 pm

sroc4 wrote:Wow.  6 yrs after Sandy

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/nj-realtor-sign-swept-away-during-hurricane-sandy-found-on-beach-in-france

Wow, this is in the message in the bottle category.VERY interesting!
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Post by docstox12 Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:52 am

Checked out the radar at 2 50 AM and if that was in the winter, there would be a lot of people upset! Reminds me of that snowmageddon year when not a flake was seen from Central Jersey north.
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Post by frank 638 Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:16 am

Noaa has issued a el nino watch for this fall .they are not sure how strong or weak will it be .let's hope for a weak el nino for a nice snowy winter . what do you think for. The upcoming el nino

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Post by docstox12 Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:22 am

frank 638 wrote:Noaa has issued a el nino watch for this fall .they are not sure how strong or weak will it be .let's hope for a weak el nino for a nice snowy winter . what do you think for. The upcoming el nino

That's interesting, but I can't see how they can predict that so far off.I agree with you, if it is an el nino, I hope it's weak also.
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Post by Quietace Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:23 am

It is very nice out.
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Post by dkodgis Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:08 pm

Doc, I think we all know this far out it is reading the tea leaves but somebody who is supposed to know sumptin' gotta say sumptin' else they are not in the profession. I like prognostication until it is no good 72-24 hours before a big event. I remind myself often the weather is controlled by a higher power and we are just spectators.
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Post by sroc4 Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:36 pm

docstox12 wrote:
frank 638 wrote:Noaa has issued a el nino watch for this fall .they are not sure how strong or weak will it be .let's hope for a weak el nino for a nice snowy winter . what do you think for. The upcoming el nino

That's interesting, but I can't see how they can predict that so far off.I agree with you, if it is an el nino, I hope it's weak also.

Doc I don't think its all that reasonable to call for an el nino "watch" at this time.  A large body of water and their relative SST anomalis don't typically acutely flip with the exception of the eastern most parts, Nino 1+2, because it is much more shallow relative to the rest of the equatorial Pac.  When you look at the last 10 months of the SST anomalies in the equatorial pac you can clearly see the trend away from colder Nina conditions towards warmer anomalies. In the last few months you can see the warmer anomalies which had been in the western most Pac and at depth, 100-200m, is starting to up sell towards the surface in the eastern third of the Eq Pac. The trend is clearly towards warmer anomalies so a watch for el nino conditions is certainly reasonable by this fall. Still a long way to go though as El Nino is not simply characterized by the SST anomalies. The ONI and the overall SOI as well as atmospheric conditions all factor into the definition of Nino, Nina, and Nada.

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Post by sroc4 Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:41 pm

Compare where we are now to where we were this time last year.  You can see by June of last year we can see the beginings of a cool pool developing at about 150m from the dateline on east. As we progressed into Sept the cool pool expanded and upwelled setting us up for the eventual Nina conditions to develop by late fall early winter.

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